Roswell

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

The Indestructable Foil

I've always known about Roswell but am finally getting around to taking a good, deep look at the evidence presented. One thing that's really bugging me right now is the foil. Imagining a "typical" flying disc, what could possibly be the use within such a craft's construction for what sounds to me like tons of Hershey bar wrapper like pieces?

Does anyone know if they were all uniform and symmetrical, like hundreds of the exact same piece, or were they miscellaneous sizes and shapes?

The way I've seen the whole deal presented was that there were two parts to the crash, the debris... and the craft itself pretty much intact (with the bodies scattered around). So did something "poke a hole" in it, a bunch of little foil pieces fall out, then it crashed? I wonder how much sense that should make... as if perhaps the hull was stuffed with these little pieces, perhaps a form of insulation?

 

[Chuckleberryfinn]

Roswell / The Indestructable Foil

If Roswell was really an ET craft, who can say for sure what caused the crash? Maybe people who have closely analyzed the wreckage. They aren't talking. Some speculate about a possible mid-air collision, a lightning strike, radar interference with a magneto-aerodynamic propulsion device, and so forth.

In any case, extremely light and strong material would be excellent for any type of travel because it preserves a lot of energy. Imagine if our cars only weighed about as much as we do plus the gasoline. We'd get really far on a single tank of gas.

 

[Aaron LeClair]

Roswell / The Indestructable Foil

Here's something pertaining to Roswell that isn't discussed much.
http://roswellproof.homestead.com/

David Rudiak's analysis of the Ramey memo photo.

 

[Ron Collins]

Roswell / The Indestructable Foil

of course this is all suppsition, but I have heard everything from anti-inertia material to protection from micrometeors. I would like to know if anyone experimented with this material and a magnet. My best guess is that it was a multipurpose material.

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

Roswell / The Indestructable Foil

So far I'm just not easily seeing a logical place for a bunch of little foil sheets in the construction of a flying saucer, unless "stuffed" into the hull and then falling out when the hull gets breached.

Elias "Eli" Benjamin

A "witness" testimony that I'm having trouble with is Eli's. It is told that during the transport processes that the usual escort troops weren't used... only the highest levels. But then you have a private being told to oversee the movement of alien bodies, more or less "wide open" laying on top of stretchers with nothing but a sheet covering them (one of which just so happens to slip off, revealing the body).

It's like these super high up officers in charge of the whole operation, with the greatest goal being to keep this thing under wraps, are too lazy to handle rolling a stretcher so they get lax in the security and allow a private to take control of this majorly crucial phase of the entire operation.

 

[TClaeys]

Just curious, where are you pulling all of your information from regarding Roswell? Books? Sites? Documents? Other? This is a gaint quilt of fact and fiction and I normally avoid it and basically disregard it.

Whether there is any truth left to discover seems to be basically irrelevant, because we will never know it to be true amidst the confusion. I mean we can't even agree WHO the researchers even are, much less investigate it in any type of combined effort.

In the meantime just wondering where you have been pulling information from this saga.

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

Just curious, where are you pulling all of your information from regarding Roswell?

One book, several web sites, several video documentaries.

I don't expect to "get to the bottom of it" myself, but I am enjoying the exploration, and anything that can be identified as BS or legit is simply helpful in my search... but in the end, as has been said in one doc... "The Roswell Incident comes down to a matter of faith... who do you choose to believe?" and I am ultimately comfortable with that. As it stands I am a skeptical believer.

 

[Frootloop]

Roswell / The Indestructable Foil

So far I'm just not easily seeing a logical place for a bunch of little foil sheets in the construction of a flying saucer, unless "stuffed" into the hull and then falling out when the hull gets breached.

To be fair, if true, it may not have been anything like foil, its just the closest thing anyone who found a piece had at the time to compare it to.

 

[donthizz]

i think talking about roswell isn't going to help nobody. we have to look towards the future, looking back at the incident which started this whole phenomena helps but if we are to really undestand whats really going on we have to look towards the present and the future.

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

i think talking about roswell isn't going to help nobody. we have to look towards the future, looking back at the incident which started this whole phenomena helps but if we are to really undestand whats really going on we have to look towards the present and the future.

I disagree. One major thing that sets Roswell apart from any other is that it occurred at a time when our govt was not really prepared to deal with such a thing, so there were many more holes left open for us to peer through. Nowadays, there's very little chance of having a few days elapse between impact and pickup... so there's not likely to be as many citizen witnesses, nor would the military be so lax in it's handling of pickup and transport... I would imagine things are a lot more "air tight" now. I think there is (assuming it to be true) a lot of well worth while information that slipped through to be studied.

 

[donthizz]

everything about about roswell is beggining to blur out, all the top researchers who did quality research on roswell from the beggining are getting old, most of the eye witnesses are either dead or very old, and most of all the government had a ton of time to clean up their fingerprints. Roswell incident is becomming more of myth or a folk story than a real event.

 

[Michael L.]

I have always thought that the Roswell foil sounds helluva lot like mylar foil.

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

most of the eye witnesses are either dead or very old

I don't see where that would be a negative thing... as a matter of fact, many seem to be moving towards a mindset of "getting pretty old, not scared anymore, might as well tell what I know".

Roswell incident is becomming more of myth or a folk story than a real event.

A prime time to get the last few facts that can be gotten before that whole process solidifies. Anyway, if you don't think it's worthy of exploration then don't explore it... I think it is profoundly interesting.

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

I have always thought that the Roswell foil sounds helluva lot like mylar foil.

Me too, but this brings into question the reports of not being able to puncture it.

 

[donthizz]

[A prime time to get the last few facts that can be gotten before that whole process solidifies. Anyway, if you don't think it's worthy of exploration then don't explore it... I think it is profoundly interesting.

Hey, dont get me wrong here, i find it worthy of exploration as well but so much time has passed by without any success.

this was the biggest moment in human history, somehow the government managed to cover it up and we couldn't do a darn thing about it. it just slipped through out fingers.

 

[tommyball]

i think talking about roswell isn't going to help nobody. we have to look towards the future, looking back at the incident which started this whole phenomena helps but if we are to really undestand whats really going on we have to look towards the present and the future.

I disagree. One major thing that sets Roswell apart from any other is that it occurred at a time when our govt was not really prepared to deal with such a thing, so there were many more holes left open for us to peer through. Nowadays, there's very little chance of having a few days elapse between impact and pickup... so there's not likely to be as many citizen witnesses, nor would the military be so lax in it's handling of pickup and transport... I would imagine things are a lot more "air tight" now. I think there is (assuming it to be true) a lot of well worth while information that slipped through to be studied.

I'm one to usually say that Roswell has fallen too far into the realm of myth to be of much value but you do make some good points. Your perspective does offer a fresh view of the topic.

Still, it's getting more and more difficult to separate Roswell the event from Roswell the tourist attraction.

-todd.

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

Wright-Patterson / FT Worth

Something else that's bugging me... it seems that the investigators thus far have had Roswell/Corona tunnel vision to some degree. At this point I only know of one testimony from someone that was a Wright-Patterson when the wreckage was brought in (Gen Arthur Exon), and a report or two from someone at FT Worth. It seems to me that these are the places that need the most intense level of investigation at this late point. Perhaps they have tried before and just haven't been able to dig up more than this little bit.

Retarded Asians

Have you folks noticed the retarded Asians "theory"? I was digging around at Amazon and found this...

 

[Ron Collins]

i think talking about roswell isn't going to help nobody. we have to look towards the future, looking back at the incident which started this whole phenomena helps but if we are to really undestand whats really going on we have to look towards the present and the future.

That may be true, but when you are first jumping into the huge murky waters of this subject matter it is the first ship you come upon. Naturally you climb aboard and inspect things. However, soon you begin to realize that the ship is taking on water, the engine doesn’t run, and there are an abnormal number of "Captains" aboard. So you climb to the highest deck and look for smaller boats to leap frog to.

Nothing wrong with that. Most in the field find Roswell boring or tired. I don’t disagree but only because we have all explored the ship. Who knows, maybe someone with fresh eyes can find a bilge pump and a tool kit.

 

[Ron Collins]

I have always thought that the Roswell foil sounds helluva lot like mylar foil.

For me the separating factor is the inability to crease or cut it. That description is pretty universal and pretty hard to misunderstand. Basically you have to be a liar if you say this and are looking at Mylar. I have a hard time believing that all of the witnesses that saw that material are liars.

 

[Ron Collins]

Wright-Patterson / FT Worth

Something else that's bugging me... it seems that the investigators thus far have had Roswell/Corona tunnel vision to some degree. At this point I only know of one testimony from someone that was a Wright-Patterson when the wreckage was brought in (Gen Arthur Exon), and a report or two from someone at FT Worth. It seems to me that these are the places that need the most intense level of investigation at this late point. Perhaps they have tried before and just haven't been able to dig up more than this little bit.

This is one of the areas I would really like researchers like Stanton Friedman to address. I would like to know if they tried to identify prominent and up and coming scientist and engineers that were called away to Ohio or were otherwise unaccountable.

After all, analysis would have been conducted by underling scientists and engineers. Bush, Berkner, and Hunsaker would not have been the only scientists huddled around the thing.

It would be refreshing to hear all the avenues they approached, even if they led them to a dead end.