Scientist weigh in on whether ufos are worthy of study (vid)

[Aaron LeClair]

Vid is poor quality and what you see is out of sync with what you hear, but other than that, hopefully of interest.

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Poor choice of cases in my opinion.

 

[Chuckleberryfinn]

I've read his book. It's a good one.

As for the scientist who claimed that the radar case was attributable to false radar returns, I know that his claim is at least debatable. Bruce Maccabee wrote an essay on this subject.

From his website(http://brumac.8k.com/index.html):


# Atmosphere or UFO? | A Response to the 1997 SSE Review Panel Report

* Location: The Journal of Scientific Exploration (www.jse.com)
* Abstract: "Radar and radar-visual sightings were among the various types of UFO sightings discussed by the review panel sponsored by the Society for Scientific Exploration in the Fall of 1997. Although several well-described cases involving radar were presented to the panel, including cases in which apparently structured objects were seen coincident with radar detection, the opinion of the panel was that, whereas a few of the cases might represent "rare but significant phenomena," "rare cases of radar ducting," or "secret military activities," none of the cases represented "unknown physical processes or pointed to the involvement of an extraterrestrial intelligence." One of the panel members (Eshleman) proposed a general explanation for the radar cases in terms of atmospheric effects including refraction and ducting. There is no indication in the complete report that the panel members offered specific explanations for any report, or that any panel member was able to prove that atmospheric effects of any sort could account for the radar and radar-visual sightings. This paper, a response to the panel opinion, demonstrates that careful consideration of atmospheric effects is not sufficient to explain at least some of the radar, radar-visual, and photographic sightings that have been reported over the years."

 

[fitzbew88]

Fantasize for a moment that some event removes all doubt *whether* intelligently-guided unknown craft frequent the planet...instead, it becomes abundantly clear that that such "visits" are in fact the case.

What would we do next?

Would it be a scientific effort? A political effort? An intelligence effort?

 

[Aaron LeClair]

Fantasize for a moment that some event removes all doubt *whether* intelligently-guided unknown craft frequent the planet...instead, it becomes abundantly clear that that such "visits" are in fact the case.

What would we do next?

Would it be a scientific effort? A political effort? An intelligence effort?

I'd watch tv for change. I figure the news might deal with it between Lindsey and Britney segments then.

Then I would contact people like Seth Poostack and send them a link to a FU site I like.

What people would do is heavily dependent upon what is learned from your hypothetical event. You'd need to give details such as, is craft found? Bodies? Do we know origins, are they a threat? Are we still clueless?

In the end, research will still continue. Perhaps it will be the beginning of better research. There's still doctors and medical science even though some diseases have cures.

I'll still tune into Paracast, and I'm sure discuss the case here.

 

[fitzbew88]

I'd watch tv for change. I figure the news might deal with it between Lindsey and Britney segments then.

Well, I see no cause for self-destructive behavior. : - )

What people would do is heavily dependent upon what is learned from your hypothetical event. You'd need to give details such as, is craft found? Bodies? Do we know origins, are they a threat? Are we still clueless?

I was shopping around for opinions like:
1) Prepare a defense.
2) Ascertain motive.
3) Establish communications.
4) Hide.
etc. etc.

I would (for purposes of this theoretical discussion) say that: a traditional disk-type craft is clearly observed and documented, and observed to be non-terrestrial (is tracked moving into space). And lots of people record and see it. Millions, maybe.

The circumstances are such that there is no longer a question of "if" the phenomena is real but the issue becomes what to do next.