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Scientists discover double meaning in genetic code

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A highly ramifying discovery. Nearly a thousand comments following the article suggest the possibilities for what it might mean.

Extract: "Since the genetic code was deciphered in the 1960s, scientists have assumed that it was used exclusively to write information about proteins. UW scientists were stunned to discover that genomes use the genetic code to write two separate languages. One describes how proteins are made, and the other instructs the cell on how genes are controlled. One language is written on top of the other, which is why the second language remained hidden for so long.

“For over 40 years we have assumed that DNA changes affecting the genetic code solely impact how proteins are made,” said Stamatoyannopoulos. “Now we know that this basic assumption about reading the human genome missed half of the picture. These new findings highlight that DNA is an incredibly powerful information storage device, which nature has fully exploited in unexpected ways.”

Scientists discover double meaning in genetic code | UW Today
 
My favourite sequence from James Burke's TV series, The Day the Universe Changed, is a long pull out shot of a guy pouring over a paper printout of a computer schematic. As the shot pulls out up to the ceiling looking down, the room he's in is as big as a basketball court and the schematic fills the entire room. The voiceover comment: "Here in the west we continue to ask endess questions, and sometimes we even find answers to questions we don't even mean to ask."

We like to experiment first and then deal with the Thalidomide babies, nuclear human shadows burned into concrete walls, and the effects of genetic manipulation later. We are whacked! It's surprising we haven't blown the whole thing up yet. We've chosen long term poisoning instead as our means of self-destructing this latest incarnation called human civilization.
 
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What does that mean?

I thought DNA was like a base 4 number system where it was either 1, 2, 3, 4, and nothing else.

Excerpt:

"The genetic code uses a 64-letter alphabet called codons. The UW team discovered that some codons, which they called duons, can have two meanings, one related to protein sequence, and one related to gene control. These two meanings seem to have evolved in concert with each other. The gene control instructions appear to help stabilize certain beneficial features of proteins and how they are made."
 
It's my Biology 101 impression that discovering and decoding DNA is proving to be easy compared to unraveling the mechanisms by which information coded in the DNA its transcribed into proteins and other "stuff" that I also don't understand. Research into this is also some of the most highly classified and sequestered on the planet--both militarily and in industry.
 
"The genetic code uses a 64-letter alphabet called codons.

Ahhh. Thanks!

I remember back during the Clinton Administration they said, "We will have this DNA stuff all mapped and sorted in a couple of years. Miracle cures will ensue".

Once again, things are more complicated that they appear. :)
 
For what it may be worth (and I have no way of knowing), there seems to be some clarifying information about this second code/language in this post from ATS by neoholographic:

Like I said, you seem to have read comments you posted from reddit and you just take them at face value. My advice, read the study and not just comments on the study if your goal is to try and reduce the study to something that's meaningless and has been known for years.

There's several things and some of this will get technical. The Authors said:


“~15% of human codons are dual-use codons (“duons”) that simultaneously specify both amino acids and TF recognition sites.”

Why is this important?

The experiment was carried out on cell lines from the human exome. What's the exome?


The exome is the part of the genome formed by exons, the sequences which when transcribed remain within the mature RNA after introns are removed by RNA splicing. It differs from a transcriptome in that it consists of all DNA that is transcribed into mature RNA in cells of any type. The exome of the human genome consists of roughly 180,000 exons constituting about 1% of the total genome, or about 30 megabases of DNA.[1] Though comprising a very small fraction of the genome, mutations in the exome are thought to harbor 85% of disease-causing mutations.[2] .

en.wikipedia.org...-2

This is big news. Again, the reason this is being belittled is because people are threatened because it's just more evidence for intelligent design.

The Scientist found the Transcription Factors don't just bind to DNA promoter's but to the exons and particularly the exome which are thought to harbor 85% of disease causing mutations. The study said this:


Intriguingly, TFs involved in positioning the transcriptional preinitiation complex, such as NFYA and SP1 (29), preferentially avoid the translated region of the first coding exon (Fig. 3A) and typically occupy elements immediately upstream of the methionine start codon (Fig. 3B and fig. S9A). Conversely, TFs involved in modulating promoter activity, such as YY1 and NRSF, preferentially occupy the translated region of the first coding exon (Fig. 3, A and C) (30, 31). These findings indicate that the translated portion of the first coding exon may serve functionally as an extension of the canonical promoter.

This is a simple explanation of the second code.

Transcription factors involved with positioning avoid the translated region of the first coding exon while transcriptions factors involved with modulating promoter activity prefer to occupy the translated region of the first coding exon.

Why is that?

Herein lies the term duon or the second code. The second code is twofold. It shows the translated portion of the first coding exon may also serve as an extension of the canonical promoter and the second code also determines which region the transcription factors occupy and why they occupy them.

THIS IS HUGE!

This second code could help us with things like diseases and give us better understanding of epigenetic marks.

Here's a laymen example. I hate to get so technical but it's sad when people have a silly, knee jerk reaction when they see the words intelligent design. Once intelligent design was mention the objective quickly switched to trying to belittle this important study that could lead to profound breakthroughs.

You see some websites that offer tests that will determine your genetic factors for disease. This practice has been highly scrutinized by the FDA. I think the company 23 and Me even stopped giving these kind of tests. The second code could make these kind of tests commonplace. Here's more on 23 and Me:


Silver Spring, MD—The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recently issued a warning letter to 23andMe, a genetic testing service, for marketing its product for the diagnosis of diseases without approval.

23andMe’s DNA Spit Kit is a Personal Genome Service (PGS) device that, according to the company’s Web site, analyzes over 240 health conditions and traits, including risk for breast cancer and diabetes. It also reports on how the patient’s genetic makeup indicates they would respond to certain medications and drugs. As FDA’s warning letter indicates, some of these intended uses have not been classified and their lack of premarket approval are thus in violation of the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act (FD&C Act).

www.wholefoodsmagazine.com...

The second code could make tests like these mandatory when you visit the Doctor. What 23 and Me is doing right now is like fishing without bait. The current tests can't give you a complete picture. The position of duons that contain the code of transcription factors in exomes or the second code, could allow a diagnosis of diabetes or cancer to be caught earlier just through the understanding of this second code.

Another blow to the convoluted theory of evolution. Again, Darwin didn't have the instructions and just looked at the end result of these instructions(DNA) and came up with a theory that belongs in the trash can after we have found the instructions. I'm not saying all of the things that Darwin discovered are meaningless, I'm saying the interpretation based on what Darwin discovered belongs in the trash can. This is a convoluted theory of evolution that excludes intelligent design.​
 
This is how humanity gets in so much trouble. Going off half-cocked. We've bio-engineered things and put them into the food-chain only half-way knowing what we were doing at best. No telling what the ramifications will be. We put ourselves in a pickle with nuclear energy in much the same way.

What truth! Absolute facts. Mankind has a tendency to get much to big for it's britches quick. Deep down inside, we are all mad scientists. It's the same precise motive that causes us to speed up in poor driving conditions. We get the cart before the horse routinely.
 
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