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As a former Christian now atheist I try to maintain my sense of humor about all of this. Sometimes though its really hard. The conservative talk-show hosts that I have heard babble on about the alleged war on Christmas and the idiotic nonsense displayed by Totenburg really make it hard. But you have to just laugh at this nonsense really. The spiritual giants I have heard weigh in on this are comical in their hypocrisy and willful ignorance of the origins and additions to this particular holiday season which in all reality have no relevance whatsoever to their professed religious significance. It's like getting all high and mighty and taking some spiritual stance about EASTER for Pete's sake. Christmas and Easter are pagan holidays adopted and adapted by Christianity. They are pagan people! Dust off those history books. Do some research. And sure, you can claim it for your own and believe it to be whatever you want it to mean to you. But for the sweet love of Baby Jesus don't get on your high horse (as I have heard radio personality John David Wells do) about how it is an exclusively "Christian" holiday or practice and require others to share your delusion. It simply is not. Not to let the facts get in the way of a good hateful spat between people who disagree about religion though. I wouldn't want to do that! That would be counter to the whole spirit of Festivus!

I think it would really be cool if at some point in our evolution as a civilization that we would just have holidays that celebrate life, living, and each other sans the religious, mythological, commercial, and political trappings and overtones that plague The Holiday Season. (OMG Ethel! The old boy is a Secular Humanist or something! Run for the hills!) But I'm willing to put up with just about anything apparently in the meantime as long as I get some loot and some pecan pie.

Merry Christmas, Merry X-mas, Happy Hanuka, Happy Holidays, Happy Festivus, and all that jazz people! Let the Airing of Grievances and Feats of Strength begin! Whoohooo!

<blockquote data-quote="trainedobserver" data-source="post: 103634" data-attributes="member: 2192">As a former Christian now atheist I try to maintain my sense of humor about all of this. Sometimes though its really hard. The conservative talk-show hosts that I have heard babble on about the alleged war on Christmas and the idiotic nonsense displayed by Totenburg really make it hard. But you have to just laugh at this nonsense really. The spiritual giants I have heard weigh in on this are comical in their hypocrisy and willful ignorance of the origins and additions to this particular holiday season which in all reality have no relevance whatsoever to their professed religious significance. It&#039;s like getting all high and mighty and taking some spiritual stance about EASTER for Pete&#039;s sake. Christmas and Easter are pagan holidays adopted and adapted by Christianity. They are pagan people! Dust off those history books. Do some research. And sure, you can claim it for your own and believe it to be whatever you want it to mean to you. But for the sweet love of Baby Jesus don&#039;t get on your high horse (as I have heard radio personality John David Wells do) about how it is an exclusively &quot;Christian&quot; holiday or practice and require others to share your delusion. It simply is not. Not to let the facts get in the way of a good hateful spat between people who disagree about religion though. I wouldn&#039;t want to do that! That would be counter to the whole spirit of Festivus!I think it would really be cool if at some point in our evolution as a civilization that we would just have holidays that celebrate life, living, and each other sans the religious, mythological, commercial, and political trappings and overtones that plague The Holiday Season. (OMG Ethel! The old boy is a Secular Humanist or something! Run for the hills!)&nbsp; But I&#039;m willing to put up with just about anything apparently in the meantime as long as I get some loot and some pecan pie.Merry Christmas, Merry X-mas, Happy Hanuka, Happy Holidays, Happy Festivus, and all that jazz people! Let the Airing of Grievances and Feats of Strength begin! Whoohooo!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="trainedobserver, post: 103634, member: 2192"] As a former Christian now atheist I try to maintain my sense of humor about all of this. Sometimes though its really hard. The [I]conservative talk-show hosts[/I] that I have heard babble on about the alleged [I]war on Christmas[/I] and the idiotic nonsense displayed by Totenburg really make it hard. But you have to just laugh at this nonsense really. The [I]spiritual giants[/I] I have heard weigh in on this are comical in their hypocrisy and willful ignorance of the origins and [I]additions [/I]to this particular holiday season which in all reality have no relevance whatsoever to their professed religious significance. It's like getting all high and mighty and taking some spiritual stance about [I]EASTER[/I] for Pete's sake. Christmas and Easter are pagan holidays adopted and adapted by Christianity. They are pagan people! Dust off those history books. Do some research. And sure, you can claim it for your own and [I]believe [/I]it to be whatever you want it to mean to you. But for the sweet love of Baby Jesus don't get on your high horse (as I have heard radio personality John David Wells do) about how it is an exclusively "Christian" holiday or practice and [I]require[/I] others to share your delusion. It simply is not. Not to let the facts get in the way of a good hateful spat between people who disagree about religion though. I wouldn't want to do that! That would be counter to the whole spirit of Festivus! I think it would really be cool if at some point in our evolution as a civilization that we would just have holidays that celebrate life, living, and each other sans the religious, mythological, commercial, and [I]political [/I]trappings and overtones that plague [I]The Holiday Season[/I]. (OMG Ethel! The old boy is a Secular Humanist or something! Run for the hills!) But I'm willing to put up with just about anything apparently in the meantime as long as I get some loot and some pecan pie. Merry Christmas, Merry X-mas, Happy Hanuka, Happy Holidays, Happy Festivus, and all that jazz people! Let the [I]Airing of Grievances[/I] and [I]Feats of Strength[/I] begin! Whoohooo! [/QUOTE]

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