'Starving yogi' astounds Indian scientists

[truthseeker]

'Starving yogi' astounds Indian scientists

 

[trainedobserver]

Another perspective on the story that mentions the well-known breatharian Wiley Brooks being caught consuming junk food in the 80s.

Indian Mystic Claims Not to Eat for 70 Years

 

[tyder001]

Another perspective on the story that mentions the well-known breatharian Wiley Brooks being caught consuming junk food in the 80s.

Indian Mystic Claims Not to Eat for 70 Years

It's not that I beleive it. Cuz I don't or at least I'm skeptical. But anytime I see "skeptical inquirer" I stop reading. It's like seeing Pat Robertson on the byline of an article about Buddism. I already know the "take." But, that being said I honestly don't think anybody can survive without food and water. At least not for 70 years.

 

[trainedobserver]

I've subscribed to the Skeptical Inquirer and Free Inquiry on and off over the years and enjoyed them both. I think the good has outweighed the bad in the long run.

 

[Kieran]

Guys this has been confirmed at least a study of around two weeks by doctors. It's not a hoax the man hasn't eaten or drank or go to the toilet in that time. It's very odd to say the least i personally go to watch this story closely as it unfolds further. The guy claims also he has eaten or drank for seventy years weird if true.

 

[trainedobserver]

t's not a hoax the man hasn't eaten or drank or go to the toilet in that time.

Says who? An Indian news service? "Indian Holy Men" are the equivalent of the west's televangelist hoaxers. They have been running scams on the gullible since there was an India. I bet his cousin can levitate.

 

[Kieran]

Says who? An Indian news service? "Indian Holy Men" are the equivalent of the west's televangelist hoaxers. They have been running scams on the gullible since there was an India. I bet his cousin can levitate.

There was a News Conference held today by a Neurologist Sudhir Shah he is a doctor in the city of Ahmedabad. So it's a hoax even though the information came from a respected news source in the region.

 

[ArchieBedford]

They have been running scams on the gullible since there was an India. I bet his cousin can levitate.

LOL! Yeah he can. And his brother owns a flying carpet shop.

These no-food-or-drink-for-40-years stories have been going in India forever, none substantiated so far as I know. The claimant would need to be under 24/7 CCTV observation for a few months to prove it.

"Breatharian" shows promise as the ultimate fad-diet. You could make a fortune selling it to westerners. "Send for your special breatharian cans of fresh air, only US$200 a pop." Someone will commercialise it for sure.

 

[Kieran]

So I guess the uptake here from some readers here is that this is case closed: magic exists!
I love the idea of just not reading those pesky skeptics with their science and so forth. Hear no evil, eh?

Is it any wonder that paranormal belief exists mainly as low-rent entertainment?

Lance

Lance ok do your own research prove the information is false. Yet this has been on the Tv News here though a (short segment on tv) Maybe there more to this, i can't tell if there is. All i am saying this information has been good enough to make it on to tv. So maybe there is something to it. I find it hard to believe a man can stay off food and drink for Seventy years myself. The only claims that were confirmed was a two week study of this man, which proved he never eat, drank, or went to the toilet during this time.

 

[Kieran]

I am still looking into Balloon Boy. That made it on TV here!

I love learning about science here:

1. If someone makes a wild claim (hasn't had anything to eat or drink in 70 years) it is up to the person doubting the claim to disprove it.

2. If it appears on TV--duh--it's true!

Lance

Lance something for you to chew on.

 

[dyingsun]

I am still looking into Balloon Boy. That made it on TV here!

I love learning about science here:

1. If someone makes a wild claim (hasn't had anything to eat or drink in 70 years) it is up to the person doubting the claim to disprove it.

2. If it appears on TV--duh--it's true!

Lance

I think you know that most people on this forum are not dull-eyed believers into anything, so I guess you're just having fun 'trying' to agitate people.

The story is BS, now if we would get into Tibetan Monks...

 

[Kieran]

I think you know that most people on this forum are not dull-eyed believers into anything, so I guess you're just having fun 'trying' to agitate people.

The story is BS, now if we would get into Tibetan Monks...

Dyingsun the story is not bullshit and it's not a hoax. He has successfully passed a two week test of no food and Drink. The Doctors are real people and the hospital is a real hospital. We can argue and debate his claims of not eating or drinking for seventy years that's fine, but the story on the video is factual.

Archie would know this he comes from England. The number one TV news outlet in the UK is SKY NEWS and even they had a video on about this. This guys are top-notch reporters they wouldn't put something on the air unless they confirmed this story first.

 

[dyingsun]

Dyingsun the story is not bullshit and it's not a hoax. He has successfully passed a two week test of no food and Drink. The Doctors are real people and the hospital is a real hospital. We can argue and debate his claims of not eating or drinking for seventy years that's fine, but the story on the video is factual.

Archie would know this he comes from England. The number one TV news outlet in the UK is SKY NEWS and even they had a video on about this. This guys are top-notch reporters they wouldn't put something on the air unless they confirmed this story first.

Kieran, see, thats the problem for me as well..if a story sounds to 'anomalous' to be true, I seem to dismiss it out of hand as well these days, didn't do that some years ago.No food I can believe, I think three months without is about as much as a human being can last without, but water ?Well, I brought up tibetan Monks before, with the right training and mindset, a lot is possible.

 

[dyingsun]

The story talks about him "gargling" with water while showering. I guess he promised, scout's honor, not to swallow any. He has done this kind of stunt before and he lost weight during it. Why would he lose weight if he lives off air all the time?

Lance

Oh Lance

 

[Kieran]

The story talks about him "gargling" with water while showering. I guess he promised, scout's honor, not to swallow any. He has done this kind of stunt before and he lost weight during it. Why would he lose weight if he lives off air all the time?

Lance

I have to use my phone for this post because i am working today. Lance, lol you never fail to amaze me with some of your posts here. Get over it he achieved something that can't be explained with western thinking and methods. "Ya he drink all the shower water Yet you leave out the part were he hasn't eaten for two week's or passed this water (went to the toilet) after all you claim he drank some water in the shower. Your right about one think, he has done this before, i did some research before i went to bed last night.

In 2003 civilian doctors tested him for ten day's in a different hospital and he done the same thing he has done now. Wasn't a hoax then. The two week study or three study in 2010. Was an "Indian Military study" to test how this man could achieve such a feat. Some of the top doctors in India are present confirming this on Video. This Yogi man was supervised by round the clock 24 camera surveillance and was locked up in a room for two whole weeks according to these Doctors. Doctors are real genuine respected Doctors in India. Just accept there might be something to the case and stop looking for excuses?

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Oh Lance

Oh lance is right

 

[trainedobserver]

All i am saying this information has been good enough to make it on to tv.

Doh! Jesus wept. Just because some journalist thought this newsworthy either out of ignorance or because he thought it was amusing is really irrelevant. This is an age old scam of the type performed by these 'holy' con-men for ages. While some religious devotes have claimed to make it 40 days without eating they don't stop drinking water.

Here is a chart from Survival Topics.
<table summary="Statistics on how long a human can live without water while in the shade at various temperatures" border="1" cellpadding="3"><caption>How Long Can You Live Without Water?</caption><tbody><tr><th rowspan="2">Max Daily Temperature</th><th colspan="6">Number of Days in the Shade</th></tr><tr><th>No Water</th><th>1 Quart
.95 Liter</th><th>2 Quarts
1.90 Liters</th><th>4 Quarts
3.79 Liters</th><th>10 Quarts
9.46 Liters</th><th>20 Quarts
18.93 Liters</th></tr><tr><th>120 F / 48.9 C</th><td>2 days</td><td>2</td><td>2</td><td>2.5</td><td>3</td><td>4.5</td></tr><tr><th>110 F / 43.3 C</th><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>3.5</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>7</td></tr><tr><th>100 F / 37.8 C</th><td>5</td><td>5.5</td><td>6</td><td>7</td><td>9.5</td><td>13.5</td></tr><tr><th>90 F / 32.2 C</th><td>7</td><td>8</td><td>9</td><td>10.5</td><td>15</td><td>23</td></tr><tr><th>80 F / 26.7 C</th><td>9</td><td>10</td><td>11</td><td>13</td><td>19</td><td>29</td></tr><tr><th>70 F / 21.1 C</th><td>10</td><td>11</td><td>12</td><td>14</td><td>20.5</td><td>32</td></tr><tr><th>60 F / 15.6 C</th><td>10</td><td>11</td><td>12</td><td>14</td><td>21</td><td>32</td></tr><tr><th>50 F / 10.0 C</th><td>10</td><td>11</td><td>12</td><td>14.5</td><td>21</td><td>32</td></tr></tbody></table>
<table summary="Statistics on how long a human can live without water while in the shade at various temperatures" border="1" cellpadding="3"></table>

The only claims that were confirmed was a two week study of this man, which proved he never eat, drank, or went to the toilet during this time.

Confirmed how? Where is the data? What was the protocol? A wild story from an Indian news service does not prove anything other than a lack of journalistic standards and their perception of the gullibility of their audience.

 

[Kieran]

Doh! Jesus wept. Just because some journalist thought this newsworthy either out of ignorance or because he thought it was amusing is really irrelevant. This is an age old scam of the type performed by these 'holy' con-men for ages. While some religious devotes have claimed to make it 40 days without eating they don't stop drinking water.

Here is a chart from Survival Topics.
<table summary="Statistics on how long a human can live without water while in the shade at various temperatures" border="1" cellpadding="3"><caption>How Long Can You Live Without Water?</caption><tbody><tr><th rowspan="2">Max Daily Temperature</th><th colspan="6">Number of Days in the Shade</th></tr><tr><th>No Water</th><th>1 Quart
.95 Liter</th><th>2 Quarts
1.90 Liters</th><th>4 Quarts
3.79 Liters</th><th>10 Quarts
9.46 Liters</th><th>20 Quarts
18.93 Liters</th></tr><tr><th>120 F / 48.9 C</th><td>2 days</td><td>2</td><td>2</td><td>2.5</td><td>3</td><td>4.5</td></tr><tr><th>110 F / 43.3 C</th><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>3.5</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>7</td></tr><tr><th>100 F / 37.8 C</th><td>5</td><td>5.5</td><td>6</td><td>7</td><td>9.5</td><td>13.5</td></tr><tr><th>90 F / 32.2 C</th><td>7</td><td>8</td><td>9</td><td>10.5</td><td>15</td><td>23</td></tr><tr><th>80 F / 26.7 C</th><td>9</td><td>10</td><td>11</td><td>13</td><td>19</td><td>29</td></tr><tr><th>70 F / 21.1 C</th><td>10</td><td>11</td><td>12</td><td>14</td><td>20.5</td><td>32</td></tr><tr><th>60 F / 15.6 C</th><td>10</td><td>11</td><td>12</td><td>14</td><td>21</td><td>32</td></tr><tr><th>50 F / 10.0 C</th><td>10</td><td>11</td><td>12</td><td>14.5</td><td>21</td><td>32</td></tr></tbody></table>
<table summary="Statistics on how long a human can live without water while in the shade at various temperatures" border="1" cellpadding="3"></table>


Confirmed how? Where is the data? What was the protocol? A wild story from an Indian news service does not prove anything other than a lack of journalistic standards and their perception of the gullibility of their audience.

Ya just because it doesn't appear on your media in the United states it must be a Hoax. It's all a big hoax right: What you posted proves nothing to me, it doesn't prove anything.

So your telling me these Doctors are not real people. Is that what your saying here? There is other videos that show Soldiers and military officials at the Hospital. That video is only one clip.

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One of the Doctors in the video was G Ilavazhagan. Here is a link just one to get ye thinking.http://www.drdo.org/labs/dipas/director.html

 

[Xylo]

trainedobserver,

While I think there's something quite fishy about the whole story as well, though 2 weeks without food & water doesn't seem impossible. Something your chart doesn't take into account is persons that have been found alive, floating in rafts, or upon floating debris after their ship goes down...surviving 10 days, 2 weeks and sometimes longer.

The chart is a good guide, but it doesn't take into account the human spirit, will to survive and also the possible lowered metabolism of a "yogi."

I'm not saying that I believe this guy hasn't eaten or drank for 70 years, as I believe that to be impossible. I am saying that surviving 2 weeks without food & water seems highly unlikely but possible.

 

[trainedobserver]

Kieran,

Yes, it is a hoax, and not all that big of one actually. Perhaps someone else can explain it to your satisfaction. However, if you are so willing to take unsupported and dare I say unsupportable claims such this at face value I'll say you need to work on your standards of evidence there fella.

When the "doctors" produce a peer-reviewed study of the "miracle man" and have their findings confirmed I'll retract my "its a lame 'holy man' con game" statement and revise my conclusions about it. Until then it fits the pattern of a folk religious confidence game which are commonly run in India.

 

[trainedobserver]

Something your chart doesn't take into account is persons that have been found alive, floating in rafts, or upon floating debris after their ship goes down...surviving 10 days, 2 weeks and sometimes longer.

Anecdotal evidence counts for what now?

Please cite some references for people surviving for "10 days, 2 weeks, and sometimes longer" without water please. I'd love to see them.