Stephen Hawking Puts The Smackdown On Billy Meier

[derekcbart]

Hi there.

Last night I saw the brilliant physicist, Stephen Hawking, give a lecture on the importance of human space travel. He was just amazing, and really funny. He came out to the music of Also Sprach Zarathustra and The Blue Danube (most famous from 2001: A Space Odyssey) and had a Barack Obama sticker on the back of his wheelchair that said "Yes We Did".

Lots of interesting information was discussed. One very cool new thing was that just a few weeks ago in February 2009 they noticed water droplets/condensation on the legs of the Mars Phoenix Lander.

Well, at one point he talks about the possibility of extra-terrestrial visitation to the Earth. He points out that IF aliens are coming here to communicate with us or teach us or help us then they aren't doing a very good job of since they only seem to communicate with people that appear to be nuts. And while he is discussing this he has the Billy Meier "I Want To Believe" photograph on the screen.

That brought an additional smile to an evening full of smiles.

-Derek

 

[David Biedny]

...and had a Barack Obama sticker on the back of his wheelchair that said "Yes We Did".

Thanks for confirming that Hawking can be every bit as ignorant as a slob slugging back a piss-water beer.

dB

 

[derekcbart]

Thanks for confirming that Hawking can be every bit as ignorant as a slob slugging back a piss-water beer.

dB

No, that would be if he had voted for John McCain.



-Derek

 

[David Biedny]

No, that would be if he had voted for John McCain.



-Derek

Derek,

I totally understand the actuality of what has happened - the lesser of the two evils was what people gravitated towards, but to think, even for a moment, that Obama is anything BUT a tool is to be completely ignorant of the mechanics of what is happening here. Yes, he's a good public speaker, and yes, he was a preferable choice to the alternative, but to gloat about his presidency is just asking for trouble, given what is likely to be the complete destruction of the economy in the next couple of years. The Repubs will have no problem hanging this nightmare on Obama and the Democrats, and the idea that someone like Hawking buys into this mindless, hero-worship bullshit is just frustrating. So much for his scientific, objective reputation.

dB

 

[mike]

Thanks for confirming that Hawking can be every bit as ignorant as a slob slugging back a piss-water beer.

dB

Fair dinkum, i reckon thats a bit strong

like everyone Mr Hawking is entitled to his political choice, its shallow thinking to suggest that a persons choice of candidate in a particular election, can be used as an argument for them being an ignorant slob.

its long, long been a maxim that it doesnt matter who you vote for.........the government always gets in

of course Mr Obama is a tool, every president is

A broad definition of a tool is an entity used to interface between two or more domains that facilitates more effective action of one domain upon the other

his assesment of the one armed bandit, is to my mind a better indicator of his intellect, than who he voted for in the last election

 

[TClaeys]

I think Hawking said at one point that the only people that see UFO's are cranks and weirdos. As intelligent as he appears to be, he must not be familiar with the topic in any depth. If he was , he would understand that UFO's are seen by numerous credible people. You know, doctors, pilots, presidents, policemen, and so on.

And of course weirdos and cranks like the one armed bandit. But to generalize in this way is an insult to completely rational people who have seen these things.

 

[Stillborn]

Thanks for confirming that Hawking can be every bit as ignorant as a slob slugging back a piss-water beer.

dB

He's been saying that sort of thing for many years now (edited in: about close encounters). I like Stephen but he's often said things I consider stupid.

He used to say time travel can't exist, because if it did, we'd be visited by time travelers. I sent in a e-mail to I think his webmaster saying that some ufos could be time travelers for all we know. I later saw a lecture where he includes that possibility. Or at least refers to the suggestion.

I recall reading that Stephen dismisses psychic phenomenon because he studied it for a couple years in college, and that the controls were always messed up. I found this stupid, he should conclude the controls were messed up, not that there is no such thing as psychic phenomenon. Because the tests he saw were screwed doesn't mean every experiment is.

/edit. I was referring to abductees only being nuts as stupid. I don't know what he meant by his Obama sticker. I thought it could mean the UK already did what the US is trying to do as well as other intperpretations. I quoted David, thinking his comment would be about that having not read carefully what he actually quoted before this edit. Been a long day.

 

[ondafritz]

It is worth noting that Dr. Hawking is a subject of the Queen and, therefore, unable to vote in the USA.

But a preferable bumper sticker to me would be Meier overlaid on his famous UFO picture with the caption "No he didn't!"

 

[CapnG]

Thanks for confirming that Hawking can be every bit as ignorant as a slob slugging back a piss-water beer.

Not necessarily. If the grand conspiracy is true, then Hawking could very well be on the inside, in which case "Yes we did" takes on an altogether different and darkly sinister connotation...

 

[mike]

Ive heard it said Mr Hawkings biggest talent is in selling books, that is to say he does do a good job of explaining some complex ideas in terms easier to digest for the average person.

but to reiterate my original point in another way, if the choice is between a lessor of two evils, its hardly fair to finger them for choosing evil..........

 

[Ron Collins]

Hawking is an amazing genius. But, I'll bet he knows jack shit about a bunch of stuff. Obviously UFO's are one of the things he knows very little about. The problem is that because he is a genius in physics somehow people translate that into him being an expert in all things remotely related to space, science, and technology. He voices an opinion backed up by no facts or attempt to research and suddenly his word is gospel.
I still like the guy. After all, he has shown that he really is a stupid human just like the rest of us.

 

[Gen]

Hawking is an amazing genius. But, I'll bet he knows jack shit about a bunch of stuff. Obviously UFO's are one of the things he knows very little about. The problem is that because he is a genius in physics somehow people translate that into him being an expert in all things remotely related to space, science, and technology. He voices an opinion backed up by no facts or attempt to research and suddenly his word is gospel.
I still like the guy. After all, he has shown that he really is a stupid human just like the rest of us.

Indeed!

Also, one can have an extremely high IQ and at the same time be utterly lacking when it comes to insight. I think Hawking may be like this...

 

[Gen]

The Obama discussion is a can of worms that I probably shouldn't approach, but I feel the need to speak my mind.

Our political system is beyond corrupt, bought and sold to corporate fascists in 1963, if not before. Our national "debates" are false dialectics controlled by a corporate media. All of this has become much worse and also more blatant since 9/11. To me, this is all obvious and self-evident.

But there are still signs of life. Whoever is really in charge behind the scenes does not have absolute control, not anywhere close. We can still vote and those votes are usually counted. Here we are on the Internet where we can say anything we like, and so on. The force of public opinion can still make a difference. I believe that there are good people of conscience working within the political system making difficult "Sophie's choice" type choices every day, trying to push us, by maddeningly small increments, back in the general direction we should be going.

This is what Barack Obama is doing. I don't even want to think about the compromises he has had to make already and will have to make in the future. That's politics, and it ain't pretty. It will also probably be slow.

Obama is not perfect -- no human being is -- but he's a lot better than what we deserve.

 

[Stillborn]

Heard Obama is wanting to make the school days longer and/or more days out of the year today. I cussed at him, er the tv. He needs to be glad I still aint in school. I'd be egging the white house with turds. I did like his brilliant idea of firing shitty teachers..... Ok, so it was wouldbe common sense. Not common, I'm the only other person I know of that's thought or said it. I live in NC btw, maybe you people had good teachers. They're more rare than bigfoot here.