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There have been many claims of being able to manipulate matter with the mind alone. Here's a thread to discuss these claims. First up, we have Guy Bavli, a mentalist and illusionist. I don't think he's taken the Million Dollar Challenge, but if what he's doing isn't trickery, it should qualify. If it's an illusion, how is it being done? @lancemoody ... have you got anything on this guy?

 
It's the usual fishing line and key bending trick.

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Charlie Prime said:
It's the usual fishing line and key bending trick.
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Good stuff. Thanks for posting that. We see Bavil in from of a wall of keys, but we don't see that the key was randomly pulled from that selection. So it could be a key like the one in the video you posted. I imagine the fishing line was used for the hands free touch trick. The other tricks seem more elusive. Is the guy with the EEG machine part of the act too I wonder?
 
For at least 25 plus years I get a wild hair every now and then and try to move something telekinetically. I've tried so hard I've almost wet my pants.
Nada. Zilch. Not even a tremor.
This is what I usually build to try it with:


A standard psi wheel. Aside from some stray air currents or something, I have never had even an inkling of success using this.
I've never tried spoons or keys, maybe I'm just brain dead or something.
 
Obviously, your skepticism is preventing you from success, my friend. You brain isn't dead, it's much too busy thinking "this is not really going to work". The term "wild hair" gives away your subconscious blockade.

Or something.

Either there is no spoon or there is no telekinesis. Never worked with me either, I have to say :(:oops:

But I did an experiement once, which seems to have kind of worked. I had read about this one in a book: in a situation where you are sitting behind a group of people, imagine you have a nasty, irritating itch in your neck and watch how many people proceed to scratch theirs.

Well, the skeptic will say, there's probably someone scratching their neck most of the time. But here's what happened:

I tried this a few days later in an office with five people in front of me (no one was looking back at me, I was just a lowly trainee in that office and the action was in front of them): I concentrated hard and could actually nearly feel my neck itching and the urge to scratch it. Nothing happened. Not one of the guys even casually lifted a hand to scratch himself. I tried harder, even held my breath. Still nothing.

So I thought something along the lines of "well I knew this wouldn't work" and with that the concentration poofed away and for a moment I totally relaxed, as if some heavy load had been lifted.

The same moment, I kid you not, three of the five guys scratched their necks nearly simultaneously. And one of these, a guy I knew personally, even turned around to look at me irritatedly.

But of course, if this was indeed something anomalous, it was probaly not telekinesis.
 
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One of the most enigmatic books I have ever read is "Mind Machines You Can Build" by G. Harry Stine.

Mind Machines You Can Build

The enigma is not that I lend it credence, but that the author was a seemingly well respected engineer and an early pioneer of America's space program. Stine can be quoted from other sources as alluding to things like inertia-less propulsion. I don't know if he really believed these devices worked.
 
I once saw a Frech guy on Dutch TV in the nineties who clearly had this gift.His last name was Petit.Familiar to any one ?I think i have it somewhere on a VHS-tape.Gonna look for it and convert to dvd
 
Tomorrow @ 10:17 am pst I will create a worldwide earthquake. Make sure your pantries are in order and don't say I didn't warn you.
 
I am constantly amazed when people think magicians like David Blaine have actually done in fact what their tricks seem to show. Like if they could really levitate or bend steel by stroking it, every engineer and scientist wouldn't be knocking at their doors to drag them off to a lab. Fair enough 'back in the day' but these days, it only takes a few clicks to find out how tricks are done. Back in the 90's there was a show with a masked magician who revealed many stage tricks, much to the disgust of fellow magicians....
 
boomerang said:
One of the most enigmatic books I have ever read is "Mind Machines You Can Build" by G. Harry Stine.

Mind Machines You Can Build

The enigma is not that I lend it credence, but that the author was a seemingly well respected engineer and an early pioneer of America's space program. Stine can be quoted from other sources as alluding to things like inertia-less propulsion. I don't know if he really believed these devices worked.
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Wonderful material here. Am looking forward to trying out some director rods. I found great appeal in the intro that identified the best inventiveness came from thinking about things, hence my enjoyment in this forum.

It seems like he certainly believed in these items as he describes his own success in using some of these mind machines. These types of replicable mental interfaces are just as fascinating as premonitions and weird synchronicities. These, more than bending soft metal keys, are indicative of more going on than we know about as of yet. Until we can name and understand these magical mechanisms we will stay a species still scratching at this thing called reality that we too often mistake as paranormal.
 
lancemoody said:
  • Sigh--is EVERY dumb claim worth discussion?
  • I'd steer away from Stan Lee's Superhumans...
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Once again Lance, there's no need to think we have to be on opposite sides of the fence. The idea behind these discussions is to explore the various claims and illuminate the truth. A lot of people watch these types of shows, so although you think their claims are a pointless waste of time to entertain, your friendly participation here in helping people explore them in a critical light has value. It's not a waste of time.
 
Burnt State said:
Wonderful material here. Am looking forward to trying out some director rods. I found great appeal in the intro that identified the best inventiveness came from thinking about things, hence my enjoyment in this forum.

It seems like he certainly believed in these items as he describes his own success in using some of these mind machines. These types of replicable mental interfaces are just as fascinating as premonitions and weird synchronicities. These, more than bending soft metal keys, are indicative of more going on than we know about as of yet. Until we can name and understand these magical mechanisms we will stay a species still scratching at this thing called reality that we too often mistake as paranormal.
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I've tried the dowsing rods and found that they do indeed seem to detect things. But who knows? There have been a lot of claims and a lot of challenges. The JREF Million Dollar Challenge even did a challenge of dowsers and none were successful, but I don't think the setup was entirely fair. The things I seem to be able to detect are metallic lines like wires or pipes. Wood, plastic, cement, fiberglass and such don't seem to register. If I'm not actually detecting them, then the coincidences have been pretty amazing so far.
 
Burnt State said:
Wonderful material here. Am looking forward to trying out some director rods. I found great appeal in the intro that identified the best inventiveness came from thinking about things, hence my enjoyment in this forum.

It seems like he certainly believed in these items as he describes his own success in using some of these mind machines. These types of replicable mental interfaces are just as fascinating as premonitions and weird synchronicities. These, more than bending soft metal keys, are indicative of more going on than we know about as of yet. Until we can name and understand these magical mechanisms we will stay a species still scratching at this thing called reality that we too often mistake as paranormal.
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Be interested to see what you find. My only personal experience with anything like this was eons ago, when I was perhaps 12 years old, watching a man brought out to find old and defunct water or drainage lines on a few acres of property. He walked about using the classic dowsing rods in handles, the latter made of (perhaps) copper tubing. Memory is hazy. But I recall everyone on site as very impressed with this ability to locate the lines. Dunno...Take this for what it might be worth.
 
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