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The Bob Lazar Regression Transcript

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Anaximander

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Hey Guys,

My Bro made a thread over on ATS that had the transcripts which Lear recently released. I think you fellas might like this and I have his permission to repost the whole thread. So here goes:


Some of you may have heard that Bob Lazar (of Area-51 Fame) had undergone hypnotic regression, but those transcripts were not available to the public until recently, when John Lear - son of the genius Bill Lear and friend of Bob Lazar- began releasing these transcripts onto the internet.

The Lazar story is a controversial one and many people are dismissive of the man's tale, however it is important to gather as much data on it as possible and these transcripts help to form a more complete history of the events of that time, regardless of whether or not they lend credence to the story told by Lazar.

For your viewing pleasure and to aid in your research, I will now post portions of those transcripts which have already been released and provide a link to the remainder. The images have been resized to aid in viewing and to save bandwidth and download time. The pages are from the second regression session which was taped and transcribed by John Lear.

The first five pages:












Links to first five pages:
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Links to rest of the pages:
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And here is the link to the site where John Lear began posting the transcripts:


Open Minds Forum - Lazar Regression Transcribed August 10, 1989



**This is the ATS thread I'm reposting:

[NEW] The Bob Lazar Regression Transcripts, page 1
 
Very interesting. Funny but this goes with some of what Striber wrote about in a book called The Grays (I think that's right or do I have the title wrong.?) Also, the Nigel Kerner guy I heard interviewed seemed to say something simialar. Anyway, intersting stuff.
 
This is a waste of time and effort. Bob Lazar is a liar and hoax artist. He and his ridiculous story have been thoroughly debunked. John Lear is the same guy that thinks there is a breathable atmosphere on the moon. Sometimes it is healthy to reject the asinine out of hand, it allows one to focus time and effort on worth while pursuits.

The only thing compelling here is watching the birth, life, and slow death of a con artist. But, like so much other bullshit in this field, this story refuses to die.
 
This is a waste of time and effort. Bob Lazar is a liar and hoax artist. He and his ridiculous story have been thoroughly debunked. John Lear is the same guy that thinks there is a breathable atmosphere on the moon. Sometimes it is healthy to reject the asinine out of hand, it allows one to focus time and effort on worth while pursuits.

I agree. I haven't read the transcripts....

I just thought that some other people might like to have them, and those that did thanked me for posting them.

Anyhow about the moon atmosphere, it is because you are such a young soul that you don't believe that shit. After reincarnating a bunch more times (using the soul re-router on the moon), you will be a worn out fuck and have no trouble believing the moon has an atmosphere. And if you do that without envy hate or greed, then you'll get to reincarnate on Jupiter or the civilization in the interior of the sun or the moon. But you have to be good.

*This is what John Lear says. 8)
 
I have not done much reading on Mr Bob Lazar but listened to a few podcast of Paracast and Darkmatters which he seems to have been involved in something which was top secret and to even get on military base he would of been on their data base records if the checkpoint and ID scanners are up to date and folks doing their job? Furthermore, Mr Lazar seems to have been quite knowledgeable and surely would have backing to come out with so called top secret data or he would of been sent to prison or shot (older days) as a traitor.:) I have agree Grey Basket and read up more on his exploits.:)
 
As arguably our most open-minded forum member blowfish I doubt even you would have trouble placing Lazar firmly in the crap box once you've had a chance to read up on him. That guy's shadier than a cave at midnight.
 
As arguably our most open-minded forum member blowfish I doubt even you would have trouble placing Lazar firmly in the crap box once you've had a chance to read up on him. That guy's shadier than a cave at midnight.

"Crap Box"?

Don Ecker said he puts Lazar in his gray box, and he never got the feeling that Lazar was lying to him when they spoke.

And he isn't all that shady - even his time at the brothel wasn't very shady. It was weird, but it wasn't like he was pimping hoes and dealing smack.
 
And he isn't all that shady - even his time at the brothel wasn't very shady. It was weird, but it wasn't like he was pimping hoes and dealing smack.

See now I didn't even KNOW about that. That sort of thing just makes him more shady not less. Not that he needs any help, the association with Lear is plenty right off the bat.
 
See now I didn't even KNOW about that. That sort of thing just makes him more shady not less. Not that he needs any help, the association with Lear is plenty right off the bat.

That's how the FBI finally managed to nail him: he wrote a computer program for a woman who operated a brothel in Nevada. Some law from around 1870 was dredged up and they used it to convict him of illegally assisting prostitution, or something like that - odd because prostitution is 100% legal in Nevada. Anyway, Lazar wrote this computer program, in all innocence, and was tenaciously pursued and convicted as it was the only thing they had on him. It does look a bit suspicious, as in 120 years or something, no-one else had ever been charged under that particular law in Nevada.
 
The Robert Lazar Timeline

As Assembled from Public Records and Statements

Version 1.10, October 1995

Originally released July, 1994

by Tom Mahood (tmahood@netcom.com)



June 18, 1990: RL (Lazar) plead guilty to a felony charge of pandering in District Court. (6)
According to the LV "Sun", "The guilty plea was part of a plea bargain in which the district attorney's office agreed not to pursue additional prostitution- related charges."
The story in the LV "Review-Journal" said RL met prostitute Toni Bulloch as a customer and helped her set up her business in the Newport Cove apartments on Tamarus Street. The story also stated, "The records show that Lazar later helped Bulloch in setting up the business, that he did indeed keep computer records of customers, and that he also took at least a 50 percent share of her fees. Lazar was also interested in recruiting other women into the operation, the records state."

---------- Post added at 06:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:48 PM ----------

Below is a letter to Lazar's friend Gene Huff From "Mike" a Real Estate appraiser from Las Vegas . In it are details of accusations that were made buy the infamous Milton W Cooper about Lazar and his court case, among other things.

The following is a letter received via ParaFAX on June 4, 1990
from Gene Huff.

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Mike,

I am a Las Vegas real estate appraiser and I have known Bob
Lazar since late 1985, John Lear since mid-1988, and George Knapp
since early 1989. I thought some of the members of your service
[ParaNet] might need some actual FACTS regarding some of the
accusations and allegations made by Milton W. Cooper. I've
written the following pages which you may use, if you choose to
do so.

MILTON W. COOPER IS A LIAR. Period.

So Cooper learned poker from granny and love from Annie,
huh? Too bad he didn't learn anything from George Washington and
the cherry tree briefing. The actual story of the "Bob Lazar-
prostitution connection" is as follows:
Bob Lazar and his late first wife, Carol, owned a legal
brothel in northern Nevada during the early 1980's, so Bob was
familiar with the brothel business. Recently, he ran into a
hooker who was running a small brothel here in Las Vegas. Bob
gave her a bunch of ideas on how she could efficiently run her
business. She asked him to help her and said she would pay him
for his consultation. I guess this kind of parallels attorneys
receiving their fees from clients with questionable vocations,
but I won't argue that point here. He helped her by installing a
computer, doing some computer programming, accounting,
installing security cameras and monitors, etc. When all of the
systems were running smoothly, Bob was going to leave as he felt
he had already received money commensurate with what he felt he
had contributed. She offered him money just to stay around and
do nothing, which seemed strange, but Bob was going to part ways
anyway, and the worst thing that could have happened, happened.
this hooker had fallen madly in love with Bob. In a serious
talk, she made her feelings known to him. She asked how sexually
attractive she was to him on a scale from 1 to 10. Bob "Mr.
Compassion" Lazar told her that, to him, she was a 1. She cried
for a day and a half.
This news was impossible to take for a woman who had for
years had men calling her on a daily basis offering to pay her
money to have sex with her. As it ends up, she is a Las Vegas
Metro Vice, FBI, and DEA informant. Now she has implicated him
as being much more involved than he actually was, for obvious
motives. He has not yet been charged, but with her connections,
it appears certain that he will be. this was all exposed by Bob
Lazar ON TELEVISION here in Las Vegas. This required no
investigation by Cooper or the knuckleheads from vice. There is
much more to this story which is better saved until Bob Lazar's
freedom is certain.
The story of Bob Lazar running a drug lab is totally false.
He is currently doing some research at a small, privately funded
lab here in Las Vegas. The lab was recently randomly visited by
one active duty Las Vegas cop, and another ex-Las Vegas cop who
both witnessed that nothing illegal or as ludicrous as drug
manufacturing was going on there. Naturally, Sherlock Cooper
didn't know this.
These are just two more classic examples of Cooper
misinterpreting an elementary body of information and jumbling it
to fit his distorted view of the world around him. This leaves
only Cooper to interpret what is "truth" while draped in an
American flag. Cooper labels his opponents as part of a
government band of conspirators, which is anyone who doesn't
believe him, disagrees with him, or actually knows and
understands the true source of his information, which in turn, is
anyone who has ever heard him speak or has read what he has
written.
Cooper speaks as though Bob Lazar and John Lear are one
item. These are two separate men with very different ideas. Bob
Lazar's story is not phony, and he is not part of a band of
government agents. I knew him before he met John Lear, and
before he worked at S 4. I was with him the first and second
times he met Lear and they had no prior contact before that. As
far as one of them working for the other, what a joke.
I was present at both of Bob Lazar's polygraph sessions.
These were prior to George Knapp's November 1989 special. the
first night included two polygraphs with the same identical
questions being asked both times. He passed one and failed on.
This is why the results were considered inconclusive by the first
polygrapher and subsequent tests were suggested BY THE
POLYGRAPHER. The second test was done at a completely different
company, about a month later. Similar, but different questions
were asked and Bob Lazar passed. The polygraphs from the second
night were then reviewed by another polygrapher who also agreed
that he had passed. The polygraphs from the second night were
then sent to a third polygrapher in San Francisco, who was of the
opinion that the Federal government wouldn't lie about something
like this, and he said he thought the results were inconclusive.
So to be fair, George Knapp said the results were inconclusive.
Actually, four polygraphers reviewed the two night's tests. One
polygrapher stated the first night's tests were inconclusive.
Two polygraphers stated that he had passed the second night's
tests, and one polygrapher thought the second night's tests were
inconclusive. This doesn't sound like as big of a failure as
Cooper makes it, does it?
The problem with Cooper's polygraph challenge is two-fold.
First, one of those challenged want to associate publicly or
privately with Cooper. Second, when someone actually believes
their lies, they register as truth on the polygraph. So for
obvious reasons, there is nothing to be gained by those
challenged. Although you must admit, Cooper and a polygraph is
an amusing thought.
Bob Lazar does NOT develop dosimeter badges at Los Alamos
and Sandia labs. He manufactures and repairs alpha radiation
probes. He even owns a patent on one particular kind. Even an
amateur sleuth like Cooper could have access to that information.
Cooper is on the record on the Billy Goodman show as stating
that he checked Bob Lazar out, and that what Bob Lazar was
stating was true. (Not that Bob Lazar cared what Cooper
thought.) I guess Cooper has a lot of trouble with these sudden
changes of mind.
Cooper overstated his exposure to Bob Lazar via John Lear.
Bob met Cooper twice at Lear's house. Kris, Bob's sister-in-law,
was with him one time, and they both came home of the opinion
that Cooper was crazy. The second time, I was invited but
declined since it appeared obvious to me that Cooper had taken
the Kennedy assassination information from the film "Dallas
Revisited," narrated by Lars Hansen, and I did not want to
associate with Cooper in public, or privately. Bob went as a
favor to John Lear and although can't remember if anyone
accompanied him, his opinion of Cooper didn't change.
Cooper acts as though Lear and Lazar were "leaking"
information to him. Remember, only recently has Cooper become
the "World's Leading Authority on UFOs." Back then he was just a
sailor who said he saw a craft when he was in the Navy, no one
worthy of "leaking" anything to. And in reality that's all that
Cooper WASN'T and ISN'T important enough to perform for, even in
a joking manner. He shouldn't flatter himself in thinking that
the government would launch an attack on him. No one needs to
discredit Cooper, he has discredited himself. Those groups that
want to march to Washington to get amnesty for secret project
participants who want to speak out, had better not go there with
Cooper. Anyone that can access the classified library (and there
are thousands nationwide), knows that many of the dates and
events Cooper speaks about are inaccurate. And the events and
dates that are accurate have generally been stated on the record
by others BEFORE Cooper is on the record as having stated them.
Anyway, he'd get laughed out of Washington. This Cooper
controversy appears to pretty much be a regional issue in the
West and Southwest U.S., thanks to the Billy Goodman show, and
now Cooper has turned on him, too. Authors and researchers from
all over the world have come to Las Vegas and met Bob Lazar. The
one common denominator that links all of them is that they all
know of at least one instance in which they don't believe Cooper,
either. This list of people includes, but is certainly not
limited to, Timothy Goode, Linda Howe, Jacques' Vallee', Budd
Hopkins, Bill Moore, etc. Incidentally, Bob Lazar chose not to
meet with Bill Moore. Within the first 15 minutes George Knapp
and I talked to Moore, Moore admitted not only lying and giving
out disinformation, he also said that he was the one who had
stolen the missing "metal" from the Billy Meier's investigators.
He said he had it analyzed and it could have been made here on
Earth. Since he was a self professed liar and thief, Bob Lazar
declined to meet him. We still wonder why he didn't let the
stolen Meier's metal resurface if it was a fake. Maybe he lied
about that, too. Anyway, it's a shame, because he's an
intelligent man and he could be a positive force.
Cooper's claims about Project Excalibur and O.H. Krill will
be covered in an upcoming issue of UFO Magazine so I won't go
into that here.
I have seen polaroid pictures of Falcon and Condor from the
set of the Fox Television Network a couple of years ago. I don't
know if their segments were taped or live, however, these
pictures were taken by two guys who had access to the set. I did
not recognize either of the gentlemen, but neither was John Lear.
If someone wanted to investigate whether or not John Lear is
Condor, I suggest that someone find out from the producers of the
show when Falcon and Condor did their segments. At that time,
John Lear was flying for American Trans Air as an L-1011 captain
on flights to Hawaii, Germany, etc. The flight logs should at
least be able to narrow down whether Lear was in the air or for
that matter even in this country at the time Falcon and Condor
were present. Although I personally find it hard to believe that
anyone would care enough one way or another to go through that
much trouble. Since George Knapp's May 1990 special news
segments, Cooper has been recorded on audio tape in a
conversation with a Las Vegas resident as saying that he's so
pissed that Lear exposed him as lying about the O.H. Krill papers
that if Lear were in front of him right then, he'd "Shoot the son
of a bitch." Yet through all of Cooper's attacks on Lear, Lear
still insists that Cooper had an original contribution. If
that's true, it's unfortunate because it has now been lost
because of Cooper's subsequent actions. This is a waste because
even though Cooper is an amateurish writer (as am I), he is a
semi-adequate public speaker who arouses people. If people will
take Cooper's advice and read and investigator for themselves,
I'm sure they'll make their own decisions on Cooper soon enough.
George Knapp was not AFRAID to call Cooper prior to his
special. Knapp had previously interviewed Cooper and had
apparently heard enough back then. Cooper got his rightful share
of time in both of Knapp's specials. George Knapp's career is
not in danger. Knapp knows more about Lazar than does the
general public, which includes Cooper. Knapp is just required to
establish Lazar's credentials before moving on to some of the
more exciting subjects Bob Lazar has commented on. Hopefully
Knapp will make his May 1990 news segments into an expanded
special so we can possibly hear some more testimony as to
Cooper's credibility.
Cooper has publicly stated that he will tell his version of
the show of force by the gray aliens in central Nevada in 1979 in
his upcoming book. I hope it's not the same story Bob Lazar and
I told on the Billy Goodman show in 1989. I would hate for that
story to have mysteriously made it from the radio in 1989 all the
way back to the reports Cooper allegedly read between 1970 and
1973. After all, this event hadn't even happened yet. Not even
Cooper could try that, could he?
Through all of this I have noticed only one solid connection
with Cooper and the Nixon Administration and that is that both
Milton W. Cooper and Richard M. Nixon both have upper lips which
perspire profusely when they're lying.
I guess the most amusing thing that has happened in the last
two years is that know Cooper has suddenly become a tough guy, at
least through his eyes. He calls everyone else wimps, and liars,
and traitors. I and many others are of the opinion that if they
cast for the part of WIMPY in the broadway version of POPEYE,
Cooper would be a lock for the part. And if indeed information,
not money, is the power of the 90's, Cooper will keep "borrowing"
from everyone involved, but don't worry, he'll gladly pay you
Tuesday.
When all of the dust has settled, I don't think Milton W.
Cooper's nickname will any longer be Bill. I think it could be
Willie or probably even "Uncle Miltie," after all if the shoe
fits, right?

Gene Huff
 
Bob Lazar and the bizarre

I'm guessing Lazar has been a topic in the forums before but I'll step in here and put in my two cents. The bottom line: I think Bob is the real deal. He had nothing to gain by going public--except his life, maybe. In fact, he's never even written a book (that I know of). Way back when in Las Vegas, he said he contacted George Knapp because he feared for his life. In other words, if he went on TV and became a public figure, Naval Intelligence just might not kill him. Dying is always bad so he chose TV. Bob is a brilliant guy and lives not that far from me up here in Michigan. You will not see him at the next UFO convention--he could care less. He knows UFOs are real and doesn't need to sit through another Friedman lecture. (I like Uncle Stan, by the way. Like Lazar, he know his physics.) For the hard-core doubters, check the Los Alamos National Laboratory phone book for the year before Bob went to S4. You will find the number for one Robert Lazar.
 
Bob Lazar and the bizarre

Wasn't it Stanton Friedman who said Lazar was a liar and that he basically debunked his background via an investigation which proved to show that his past was mired in inconsistencies as far as his education, etc.

Refer to the following:
Stanton's IRC chat log during his
discussion with the United Kingdom UFO Network

Here's just one quote from this:

<Stanton> I givew no credence to Bob Lazar. he has no degrees from anywhere, did not work as a scientists for Los Alamos, his scheme won't work. he is a sincere sounding conman. Even finsihed in the bottom third of his highschool class. he did take some courses at Pierce college in So. Calif. while he was supposedly at MIT 2500 miles away.??

I heard the Knapp broadcast(s) and read/listened to everything I could get my hands on about Bob Lazar for many years now, and even made one of those UFO models he gets royalties to this day from by Lindberg.

This was one of the people who I wanted so much to believe was telling the truth. I thought, "here is the one man who could prove the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence", but then something bugged me over the years which to this day makes me doubt the realism or sincerity of what the man states is true....

A. Does anyone on this forum actually believe that the government, who still hasn't even come completely clean about most of its President's, no less other more insignificant information they still hide from the public, is actually going to allow someone like Bob Lazar to continue breathing on this earth if he really knew anything at all about what he states he does and has "come clean with the public about?"

B. Something of this magnitude, including "metal" and diagrams of the ships and now in this hypnotic state he comes up with how he sees the "back of a little gray being" as he looks through a doorway, and the magic book which has in it all the secrets of the world.....LOL! Ok, so for years he stated to the public how he, "never witnessed anything remotely similar to an "alien" or any creature whatsoever, and was only privy to the ship and given access, etc., but now in this most advantageous platform of the trusted retrograde therapy session (someone say call the illustrious Dr. Jacobs?), we are to believe he actually comes clean with this epiphany!

C. Since we are posting hypnotic sessions now (and thank you for bringing this to our attention) I think it only fair for everyone here to read up on what someone who really did their research into this guy actually says in his blog entitled, "Swallowing the Camel: Hoaxes From Space Part I: Bob Lazar". So much has come out about this guy during the many years he came out with all of this, that even the deepest believers in his nonsense have no answers for some of the findings about him since the day he started keeping us all in amazement.

So after all the years of information, absolutely nothing coming from Lazar to prove his wild stories other than just that, plain stories with nothing as far as real evidence or advances he should have been able to give the public by his supposed studies, or the "metal" or anything at all...nonsense and more nonsense directed at a public so hungry for proof they need so badly to believe.....What was it he stated he had....information on the fuel used....this:

Alien Artifact Element 115 Fuel Cell Element 115 Ununpentium Bob Lazar Sport Model [e115] - $14.99 : Acme Artifacts, Welcome

Hey look folks, you too can own your very own "Fuel Cell: Alien Artifact Element 115!!!!" So cool...Just what it would look like too....

Nonsense.

Once again, what does anyone who purports this information have as anything other than a conman's game he's played on people for many years...Even his polygraphs were in-conclusive, at best shown to be once again a poor way to prove anything worthwhile anyway: Learn How to Pass (or Beat) a Polygraph Test | AntiPolygraph.org
 
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