The "Other" Dark Matter SUCKS

[ManitobaCanuk]

Hello All,

I used to respect Mr. Art Bell, I know, I know... I was so young and stupid. I actually though he was the best and had the best radio show covering topics that I love. I just look at back and think.. I was so uninformed. I took a chance based on my nostalgic feelings and listened to Bell's new radio incarnation...I caught the episode with Steven Greer. I could not listen to it... Artie Bell attached his lips to Greers butt and did not let go for 4 straight hours..it was agonizing...I threw-up a little in my mouth. Art bell sucks and is a rank amateur when compared to the cast and crew of DMR/ParaCast. DMR and the ParaCast taught me what good radio and great interviewing is. I have listened on iTunes to hundreds of hours of both shows. They have ruined me for second class radio programs. DMR and the ParaCast is so vastly superior at representing the field with intelligence and integrity. Bell should be sued for such a rip off of DMR, not just for stealing its name but for also some of its bumper music. I could not believe it when I heard that soft/bagpipes song, I do not know the name of it but it has a really sexy sounding singer. I am super disappointed in Bell , I will NEVER listen to him and I will run him down to anyone I come across... DMR and ParaCast have nothing to worry about from his little crap show...only the truly naive or stupid will enjoy it.

 

[Decker]

Whoa Manitoba ... when I glanced at the title I started to flame up (a bit!) until I read your note. LOL!! So, Art is using my Loreena McKennitt song, The Mummers Dance, huh? Well, not so surprised. You know what "they" say, I am sure. Both Cream and Turds float to the top....

Decker

 

[Randall]

... You know what "they" say, I am sure. Both Cream and Turds float to the top....

You really have a knack for creating imagery there Don. And your timing was impeccable. I read it just as I was taking a hit off a freshly opened jug of chocolate milk . As for Bell, he's obviously focusing on the guests with the money and/or popularity behind them. In contrast, what I think is cool about your DMR ( notice how we now have to differentiate ), and the Paracast, is that both have pulled people right out of the forums to participate, people with no big media track record, but who are interesting real people. I certainly have no interest in resurrecting Art Bell. What magic that show once had is a memory of times past. We used to drive my old GMC Jimmy around at night, sky watching and trying to catch Dreamland on the AM band bouncing off the atmosphere from Spokane to us up here in Calgary.

 

[Gene Steinberg]

I haven't listened to the new Bell show. I have other priorities.

 

[ward]

I did listen to Bell all this week, and you can do it for free easily, Don and I must think alike since i to used a food metaphor for Art's return to radio two days ago myself. Here is my breakdown of this weeks guests

Mon - Michio Kaku --------> Cherry Pie!
Tue - Steven Greer --------> Turd Sandwich
Wed - Jonathan Reed --------> Turd Sandwich
Thu - Richard C. Hoagland --------> Turd Sandwich

While Art can make for entertaining radio, you better watch what you eat

 

[Bob Watson]

with respect to Mr Ecker I will refer to the other program as "The art bell comedy show" and Mr Eckrs show as "Dark Matters"

 

[ward]

with respect to Mr Ecker I will refer to the other program as "The art bell comedy show" and Mr Eckrs show as "Dark Matters"

vesvehighfolk what you just said is;

Bulls-eye
Spot On
100% Accurate

and it's true to.

 

[Randall]

with respect to Mr Ecker I will refer to the other program as "The art bell comedy show" and Mr Eckrs show as "Dark Matters"

Not bad. Or perhaps we can call Don's show What Matters, and Bell's what Doesn't Matter .

 

[storge]

Um, Art Bell is really striking out, and not for new territory, but in the baseball sense.

Michio Kaku, who can be counted on to make the same grammatical mistakes Art Bell does, since, after all, Kaku came out of Bell's old radio show and emerged as a Science capital S spokesman for the mainstream media shades of Carl Sagan, utterly failed to discuss anything interesting, and instead fell back upon his old topics of Star Trek-type teleportation and tired explanations of "dark matter," about which he failed to give the other side of the story, namely, that "dark matter" doesn't exist and serves the function of provisional namespace placeholder fo Scientists capital S who can't find the source of apparently excess gravity in the universe. (That was all one sentence, wasn't it? Sorry, I'll try harder to make shorter sentences following this.) "Incidences" is a Bellism and Kakuism, and when you hear them say it, expect bullshit to follow.

Steve Greer, aka Commander-in-Chief, aka Ambassador for all of Earth to the Galactic ET Confederation: a classic Art Bell/Coast guest, and Bell did nothing to even question Greer's classic BS this time around, although he has TWO DECADES of experience dealing with Greer. Instead he made some feeble excuse the next day on his broadcast about not being the sort to interrupt a guest. Sure. Cool story, bro.

Richard Hoaxland: Bell and Hoaxland back again, after all these years, like Ginger Rogers and that other fellow, saying the SOS and nothing new at all.

Jonathan Rutter aka Dr. Jonathan Reed: really, Art? The Alien in the Freezer meme was a good bedtime story ONCE UPON A TIME, but that time has long passed, and anyone who cared or cares now knows Rutter completely hoaxed the entire thing, and is an inveterate hoaxer and con-man, as documented on ufowatchdog.com (or UFOWatchPig, as Sean David Morton likes to call it).

OK, now that I've shortened these sentences down to reasonable size, I would like to use my vast psychic powers to predict the upcoming guests on Dark Matter:

Sean David Morton, October 1, his birthday.

Ed Dames, live from the Ukraine, where he moved after failing to find a suitable lava cave in Hawaii in which to ride out the "kill shot" from the mean old Sun, and also found a girlfriend, I hear.

John B Wells, the new "Alex Jones-style" Coast host on weekends, since George Noory and Art Bell want to maintain a semblance of civility but probably really don't want to talk to one another at this point.

Don Ecker: to placate the name-theft issue. Art will find it neccessary to interrupt Don, unlike Greer, because of the incredible claims Ecker makes about Transient Lunar Phenomena, a subject about which he has has accumlated masses of evidence over the years. Art will not be interested overly in the evidence, but in the possibilities for lunar croquet or some non-sense.

Incidentally, or should I say incidencesly, Bell and Coast used the Mummers Song years ago incessantly. It was in constant rotation in 1997 on the Art Bell radio program, around the time Ed Dames was saying he saw no atom bomb in North Korea's future, just after the Hale-Bopp fiasco, but possibly before as well, I wasn't listening much from 1994 to 1997.

Of course what Art Bell ought to do is listen to the Paracast, Dark Matters and Radio Misterioso and get a clue on how real paranormal radio has progressed since his last retirement in 2010, but it seems to me Art Bell just wants to have some fun with old friends and guests and not to do anything beyond simple entertainment. We're back where we were when the more cogent voices in the field realized Art Bell wasn't interested in the Truth, capital T.

At least Don Ecker uses the word Dark Matters in a literate and punny sense, whereas Art Bell's Dark Matter sort of suggests swallowing something whole and uncritically. Still, the first four sucking episodes of Dark Mutter beat the heck out of the current Coast to Coast programming.

 

[Randall]

... Richard Hoaxland: Bell and Hoaxland back again, after all these years, like Ginger Rogers and that other fellow, saying the SOS and nothing new at all ...

You might want to rethink that one. I'm not sure which scene the "SOS" you're talking about is in, but Ginger Rogers was awesome, and that "other guy" may well have been the legendary dance film star Fred Astaire. Together those two were absolutely fantastic ! If Bell and Hoagland together had half the talent Ginger's has in one of her baby toes, they'd be better than almost any other show out there.

Ginger Rogers & Fred Astaire

 

[DaveM]

I can only conclude that Art Bell was desperate for money. If he was going to go to the trouble of starting a new show, why not do something innovative. Instead he dregs up some old standbys from the past. He couldn't even come up with a new title for his show. Art was worth a listen twenty years ago, but no longer.

 

[storge]

Yes, Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers were wonderful, but I was trying to say Hoaxland and Bell are doing the same old dance, of course not as gracefully as Fred and Ginger, but outdated, faded and not so much fun anymore.

Can we call the new Art Bell show Dorks Mutter? (I actually really like Art Bell's radio persona and will listen no matter how bad his guests are).

 

[Solarion]

Imagine how well Ginger can dance if they gave her flater shoes instead of high heels.

 

[Goggs Mackay]

Ok, as a fan of some of Art Bell's C2C stuff from back in the day - I had to check out this new Bell output, even if he has shamefully basically copied Don's show title - I mean, he know's who Don is, Don was on his show and his new show covers the same topics. I would have thought that especially in the U.S, there has to be some kinda copyright or trademark thing he is infringing?

Anyway, from the choice I could find on youtube, I settled on Hoagland, seeing as I am interested in Lunar mysteries. Does anyone else get the impression that Art seemed quite disbelieving of Hoagland's claims? Considering how many times Hoagland has been on C2C, I strongly got the impression that Art wasn't having any of it? I expected the usual softball pass but I was mildly impressed in that to me anyway, ole' Dick did not get a free pass on the episode. Perhaps my view was off somewhat and it was the same old but I came away with the impression that Hoagland had to fight his corner, and rightly so.

As for the show itself, well nothing new and I just don't think Bell had the same spring in his old radio step. He still has a great voice and persona but it really is C2C2 isn't it?

 

[Goggs Mackay]

I haven't listened to the new Bell show. I have other priorities.

It's C2C2 Gene.

 

[Randall]

Yes, Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers were wonderful, but I was trying to say Hoaxland and Bell are doing the same old dance ...

Ah, yes ... true true ... Might we be so gracious as to compare them to Ed Wood and Bella Lugosi instead? Seems a little more fitting ...

Ed Wood Trailer

But then again - How can you not like this movie?
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[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

Hey I like Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers those duo could dance a storm and still good tunes today. More like Bill and Ben.

 

[boomerang]

Ah, yes ... true true ... Might we be so gracious as to compare them to Ed Wood and Bella Lugosi instead? Seems a little more fitting ...

Ed Wood Trailer

But then again - How can you not like this movie?
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Yes we might !

 

[nameless]

I cannot figure out why he would call his show dark matters. Either he's stupid and a bit scatty or don is a perceived threat to him or the people who work with/for him. I don't mean in a sinister way.

 

[nameless]

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