The Return of Kevin D. Randle — Ask Your Questions!

[Gene Steinberg]

Military veteran and prolific author Kevin D. Randle returns to The Paracast to talk about the state of the UFO field, the ongoing controversy over the alleged Roswell Slides and other matters.

You can find his latest posts at:

A Different Perspective

We've scheduled this recording session for Thursday, April 16, at 11:00 AM Arizona/Pacific time.

 

[Burnt State]

1. Is there anything at all to be done with the thousands and thousands of UFO reports? Some of these are anecdotal, some have multiple tiers of evidence attached to them. In your opinion is there anything to be discovered abut the UFO phenomenon by filtering through this data and asking better questions to seek new patterns or is it just a lot of paper that proves a mystery?

2. Historically, what investigators and theorists to date have provided some positive critical direction regarding the UFO phenomenon and who do you feel is currently leading the investigation in an innovative manner? What techniques and methods do you feel will help to shed light on this enduring problem?

3. In your estimation what do you feel is most likely sitting at the bottom of the Oak Island Money Pit & who is responsible for putting it there, or is it some kind of question without an answer, much like the UFO conundrum?

 

[technomage]

1. George Wingfield recently said that the crash at Roswell was a "Project Mogul" balloon? What's the number one reason you think his opinion is wrong?
   
   
2. James Carrion believes Roswell is an example of human deception, similar to that which was used to perpetrate the ghost rockets. What, in your opinion, is the flaw in his argument, from what you've heard so far?
   
   
3. Other than Roswell, what are your top cases that point to a non-human intelligence as the source?

 

[junius]

Has Mr Randle had sight of the enclosed articles from 'Flight' magazine and does he think the aircraft mentioned in the articles relate to either Ken Arnold sightings / Roswell?

 

[junius]

Oh I forgot to add some more

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Despite the fact that everyone has an HD video camera with them, UFO sightings are rarely caught on video. It seems as though overall, UFO sightings have actually gone down. I feel as though this is due to the fact that people are more informed now about the world than they were when the most famous sightings did happen. Also, if they do capture something be it an image or video, that image is often clearer and one can tell that they caught a bird or a convention aircraft, or whatever.

Do you feel that it's strange that with so many cameras out there, we've got nothing concrete?

 

[Sub-light]

Mr. Randle, why after all theses years is so much attention place on Roswell and Little attention has been given to the 1947 saucer wave it self of that summer. There are so many detailed accounts of people Who saw these things. It's always frustrated me that so much time has been sucked into the Roswell story and I feel that we've lost a lot of information we could have gained by interviewing people over the last 30 or 40 years about what they saw perhaps more detail or more information.

 

[Heidi Lemmer]

How much influence do your feel your blog and other prominent blogs have on the "mood" that shapes this field? What direction in science would you like to see this field move in?

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

1. Is it plausible there might have been more than one Ops flights from the US Mogul Balloon (Project Mogul )and US Bell - X 1 (Bell X-1 | National Air and Space Museum) occurred at the time of Roswell incident?

2. Also did any US Military eyewitness from Strategic Air command (Strategic Air Command fighter units) mention unknown radar bogeys in the week of "Roswell Crash " or experience radiation sickness or visited the crash site Lt Col (Rtd) K. Randle?

3. Were there any UFOs sighted off the US Coast by the US Navy Command during that week and any contacts on radar or contact with US fighters planes ?

4. Off topic : Also what do you think of the current US and Coalition Operations in Iraq currently against ISIS /Daseh and the re-growing Cold War posture with China and Russia ?

 

[cosmonaut]

Military veteran and prolific author Kevin D. Randle returns to The Paracast to talk about the state of the UFO field, the ongoing controversy over the alleged Roswell Slides and other matters.

You can find his latest posts at:

A Different Perspective

We've scheduled this recording session for Thursday, April 14, at 11:00 AM Arizona/Pacific time.

For KEVIN
In 1975 he was asked by Jim Lorenzen to investigate the wave of cattle mutilations that were sweeping the Midwest and west.
What did he discover?

Second question: Kevin has written a lot of science fiction novels. What are his first 3 steps in creating
a new scifi novel?

 

[withoutlimits09]

1. Kevin, as a military vet yourself, you understand the idea of destroying any of our left over technology on the field of battle. We saw this most recently with the OBL raid. Our "stealth helicopter" was damaged and rather than have it fall into the hands of our enemy, we destroyed it.

With that thought in mind, don't you think it is a bit ridiculous to believe that an advanced civilization hell bent on cloaking itself from us, would merely allow us to "keep" its hardware? If these beings, or what ever they are, can traverse the stars and defy gravity, how on earth am I supposed to believe a few chain linked fences and a tin airplane hanger is going to secure the alien craft. Wouldn't they just come get it, or remotely de-materialize it?

I have often wondered if "that" is actually the secret. The US government recovered a disk, released an official announcement, and then woke up only to find the craft and all the evidence mysteriously gone....this would explain their about-face, and eagerness to cover this up. I think realizing that unknown aircraft are flying around our skies and disappearing from our custody would be enough to compel the government to lie.

I can't believe any advanced civilization that has the ability to self-conceal itself from billions of people, cameras and entire governments, would not have the means available to simply retrieve their hardware from us.

Your thoughts?

 

[Gene Steinberg]

Sorry, as noted above, the show was recorded "Thursday, April 16, at 11:00 AM Arizona/Pacific time."

 

[withoutlimits09]

Sorry, as noted above, the show was recorded "Thursday, April 16, at 11:00 AM Arizona/Pacific time."

Damnit, it was a good question.

Well ask that to any guest that comes on!

 

[Constance]

I have often wondered if "that" is actually the secret. The US government recovered a disk, released an official announcement, and then woke up only to find the craft and all the evidence mysteriously gone....this would explain their about-face, and eagerness to cover this up.

That's an original idea, and also an amusing one to contemplate. But I don't think an et species advanced enough to produce the demonstrated ufo technology would consider our current science and engineering capable of back-engineering their craft and posing an actual threat to them. By the time we accomplished that they'd likely have moved another incomprehensible leap beyond us.

 

[Creepy Green Light]

Kevin.

James Carrion said that the #1 rule in intelligence is to keep your mouth shut and that there is no way the 509th bomber group would try and keep a recovered crashed saucer secret by announcing it to the entire planet. The 509th was the best & brightest, so they couldn't be that stupid. He says the press release was done on purpose but for other reasons. What's your argument against this?

 

[William Strathmann]

Kevin.

James Carrion said that the #1 rule in intelligence is to keep your mouth shut and that there is no way the 509th bomber group would try and keep a recovered crashed saucer secret by announcing it to the entire planet. The 509th was the best & brightest, so they couldn't be that stupid. He says the press release was done on purpose but for other reasons. What's your argument against this?

I am wondering if down the line the Paracast could host both Carrion and Randle for a show specifically on this question alone. Leave out Carrion's Rosetta Deception / Ghost Rockets theory, and his theory of the Arnold sighting, and stay focused on details of Roswell for the whole show. I'm a bystanding observer and only recently started following the UFO field. But I did serve six years in the military in the '70's-'80's and I had a TS clearance for F-4 Phantom radar. Recently I searched around Dr. Randle's blog for a Roswell timeline to become familiar with that story and found this helpful post.

A Different Perspective: The Roswell Time Line - July 8, 1947

As I read it, together with comments, it occured to me that Blanchard's order for publicity of the "capture" of a disc had to have been calculated, probably for counter intel, and that it was not a drooling idiot SNAFU. I reached this conclusion before I'd even heard of James Carrion, and before I knew that he had reached the same conclusion several years ago. The 1952 movie Above and Beyond dramatizes the stifling security the 509th operated under. Then too, had Tibbets been unable to fly the Hiroshima strike, Blanchard was his backup (if I am not mistaken) and he would have led it. In other words, Blanchard was in the middle of all the intense security dramatized in Above and Beyond. So, agreeing with Carrion on this issue, it is difficult to believe Blanchard would order immediate publicity of something that so easily could have been kept quiet, unless it was an intel operation. Soviets agents were surely acquiring US nuclear secrets by any means, but US info on their activity had decreased after 1945. Roswell might have been an operation to shake something loose. The Soviets detonated their A-bomb in 1949. And, incidentally, in the summer of 1947 the first Soviet rivet-for-rivet back-engineered copy of the B-29 (Tu-4) was flown. Publicity of a US B-29 unit's capture of an advanced aerial vehicle amenable to back-engineering might possibly have been done to demoralize the Soviets, in addition to shaking the tree.

A real debris field of advanced metal alloys (human manufactured) could have been planted in that desolate rural NM field, just waiting for Brazel. Only a few officers of the 509th staff would have had to know it was planted. Everyone else could believe it was a real "disc" and would have kept their mouths shut, pretty much. In my opinion this operation would only work if intelligence agencies, East and West, had concluded that inexplicable phenomena (foo fighters / ghost rockets) were occuring and that they were intelligently controlled and probably of non-human origin. I have no iron in the fire for any Roswell solution, whether misidentified weather balloon, mogul balloon, alien crash or intel operation. But an intel operation does make sense of Blanchard's order for publicity, followed by the subsequent scramble to shut the story down.

IMHO it would make a fascinating Paracast if Carrion and Randle would agree to weigh the Roswell evidence together with you guys, Gene and Chris.

Best wishes.

 

[Creepy Green Light]

I am wondering if down the line the Paracast could host both Carrion and Randle for a show specifically on this question alone. Leave out Carrion's Rosetta Deception / Ghost Rockets theory, and his theory of the Arnold sighting, and stay focused on details of Roswell for the whole show. I'm a bystanding observer and only recently started following the UFO field. But I did serve six years in the military in the '70's-'80's and I had a TS clearance for F-4 Phantom radar. Recently I searched around Dr. Randle's blog for a Roswell timeline to become familiar with that story and found this helpful post.

A Different Perspective: The Roswell Time Line - July 8, 1947

As I read it, together with comments, it occured to me that Blanchard's order for publicity of the "capture" of a disc had to have been calculated, probably for counter intel, and that it was not a drooling idiot SNAFU. I reached this conclusion before I'd even heard of James Carrion, and before I knew that he had reached the same conclusion several years ago. The 1952 movie Above and Beyond dramatizes the stifling security the 509th operated under. Then too, had Tibbets been unable to fly the Hiroshima strike, Blanchard was his backup (if I am not mistaken) and he would have led it. In other words, Blanchard was in the middle of all the intense security dramatized in Above and Beyond. So, agreeing with Carrion on this issue, it is difficult to believe Blanchard would order immediate publicity of something that so easily could have been kept quiet, unless it was an intel operation. Soviets agents were surely acquiring US nuclear secrets by any means, but US info on their activity had decreased after 1945. Roswell might have been an operation to shake something loose. The Soviets detonated their A-bomb in 1949. And, incidentally, in the summer of 1947 the first Soviet rivet-for-rivet back-engineered copy of the B-29 (Tu-4) was flown. Publicity of a US B-29 unit's capture of an advanced aerial vehicle amenable to back-engineering might possibly have been done to demoralize the Soviets, in addition to shaking the tree.

A real debris field of advanced metal alloys (human manufactured) could have been planted in that desolate rural NM field, just waiting for Brazel. Only a few officers of the 509th staff would have had to know it was planted. Everyone else could believe it was a real "disc" and would have kept their mouths shut, pretty much. In my opinion this operation would only work if intelligence agencies, East and West, had concluded that inexplicable phenomena (foo fighters / ghost rockets) were occuring and that they were intelligently controlled and probably of non-human origin. I have no iron in the fire for any Roswell solution, whether misidentified weather balloon, mogul balloon, alien crash or intel operation. But an intel operation does make sense of Blanchard's order for publicity, followed by the subsequent scramble to shut the story down.

IMHO it would make a fascinating Paracast if Carrion and Randle would agree to weigh the Roswell evidence together with you guys, Gene and Chris.

Best wishes.

Good points. Also, this has nothing to do with anything for the most part but it's always something I've tucked away in my brain and recall from time to time; I was in the U.S. Navy for 5 years as a Combat Aircrewman/Inflight Ordnanceman on Lockheed P-3C Orion's (antisubmarine warfare aircraft). My home base was in Maine but I deployed all over the planet. The one and only reason we had Marines on our base was because of the fact that we had nukes on base. Something called a B-57 Nuclear Depth Bomb that the P-3C (and other aircraft/helicopters) could drop. At some point during my time (which was from 90-95) they made the decision that the P-3C would stop carrying nukes and to have the nukes removed from the base. It took a while for it to actually happen but it eventually did. Once the nukes were gone, the Marines followed. It was about a year later and we were reading the paper in the morning and one of the headlines said "Brunswick NAS last base in New England to still have nukes". The article went on to explain that they believe our Naval Air Station was the last military base in New England to still have nukes. Meanwhile, we all laughed and were like "Yeah, you guys are about 12 months late on that one pal..." But to every civilian that read it, they believed it. How would they know? So just because the newspaper said it (especially a news paper) doesn't mean it's true.

That event made me wonder the rest of my life everytime I read a newspaper (or Google news) "Yeah? Is that true? Or is it completely/semi erroneous?"

 

[Goggs Mackay]

Despite the fact that everyone has an HD video camera with them, UFO sightings are rarely caught on video. It seems as though overall, UFO sightings have actually gone down. I feel as though this is due to the fact that people are more informed now about the world than they were when the most famous sightings did happen. Also, if they do capture something be it an image or video, that image is often clearer and one can tell that they caught a bird or a convention aircraft, or whatever.

Do you feel that it's strange that with so many cameras out there, we've got nothing concrete?

I don't. If we assume the vast majority of UFO's (if they exist) are going to be not only off the ground, but mostly not very close to the ground either, I think we need to remember and realise that most people who are carrying HD cameras on their cellphones, look at the sky far less then people did even a short time ago, pre-cellphone age.

Just walk down a busy street and take note of the people either talking on their phones, or looking down at them while walking or standing still. The last place they look is up at the sky.

In addition to the above, even though many phone-cameras now have high resolution, the lenses really aren't set up for capturing small objects at a distance. I admit I'm not even close to informed on photography but I know if you try to capture a passenger or private plane in the sky, it is very difficult to make very much out unless the plane is very close to the camera. Anything you may capture of a plane/craft up above a couple of thousand feet is beyond useless in terms of quality evidence. I imagine there may actually be thousands of UFOs captured on cellphone images, but they will never see the light of day in the wider UFO community because they will be small, indistinct, blurry or unclear in other ways.

I would argue actually that the only way to capture semi-decent UFO photos would be with more expensive cameras (digital or analogue) with high quality zoom lenses. Anything less certainly might work but just will not come close to being useable 'evidence.'

 

[Wade]

In addition to the above, even though many phone-cameras now have high resolution, the lenses really aren't set up for capturing small objects at a distance. I admit I'm not even close to informed on photography but I know if you try to capture a passenger or private plane in the sky, it is very difficult to make very much out unless the plane is very close to the camera. Anything you may capture of a plane/craft up above a couple of thousand feet is beyond useless in terms of quality evidence. I imagine there may actually be thousands of UFOs captured on cellphone images, but they will never see the light of day in the wider UFO community because they will be small, indistinct, blurry or unclear in other ways.

Amen Brother. And while i am not fond of offering this :

"Just walk down a busy street and take note of the people either talking on their phones, or looking down at them while walking or standing still. The last place they look is up at the sky."

as a rational you can't rely deny it. i see it all the time here in a big city, on bikes. driving and walking down the middle of a sidewalk but to me this excuse smacks of a very convienent, very pat offering, If i were a debunker it would make me pull my hair out.

But i will say i have a phone w/very decent optics (Sony z3) and it's a complete no go in low light situations, i've tried taking pictures of a rising full moon before it gets too "glarey" and you can barely ID it to be the moon, none of these phones really have the depth of field needed to make out anything distinguishable unless you alraedy have working knowlege of what it could be, but forget anything that lights up in a night sky. In fact i'd go as far to say even if people were being more observent to the sky and were taking videos or pictures of unidentified objects with their samsungs and iphones wouldn't mean squat. it would probably just muddy up things more.

 

[William Strathmann]

If the Paracast has Kevin Randle on again, solo, then some questions arise about his book:

Conversations - A Study in Hypnosis & Past Life Regression

According to your book Kevin, during hypnosis sessions Jenny’s different personalities had different names, voices and diction. I was thus surprised that you did not look beyond "reincarnation" into a possible connection with dissociative identity disorder (multiple personality disorder). You did not mention it in your book. During hypnosis all personalities were available through her, right then and there, no matter if they "said" they were associated with various cultures from various centuries. Why did you buy into reincarnation over DID so quickly?

On the assumption that Jenny's case might involve DID, do you think that Jenny’s psychological makeup prevented expression of this DID disorder in a wakeful state, but that hypnosis overrode whatever held the expression in check, so that DID was expressed in the altered state of hypnosis?

Following this line of questioning, the other personalities expressing themselves through Jenny were, by your own admission, shockingly different from Jenny herself. Did you consider the possibility that hypnosis actually supressed her normal, innate wakeful mental defense mechanisms against such horrific personality expressions?

You attempted to correlate NDE and reincarnation. But NDE phenomenon, taken at face value, might more aptly be termed de-carnation. There might be no direct relation with re-in-carnation, assuming the latter actually occurs. Both terms assume that human sentience is not utterly dependent on the body, which I do agree with.

Since you attempt to tie NDE with reincarnation there should be no reluctance to entertain other possible speculative scenarios of similar character in Jenny's case. The ancient world, and large parts of the modern world other than the West, has been well aware of invisible sentient entities that could influence nations down to individuals. The NT and other inter-testamental literature, Jewish and Christian, clearly recognize the possiblity of daimonion (daemons - powerful spiritual entities) influencing people. For example, Mark 5 in the NT provides a striking example:

They came to the other side of the sea, to the country of the Gerasenes. And when Jesus had stepped out of the boat, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit. He lived among the tombs. And no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain, for he had often been bound with shackles and chains, but he wrenched the chains apart, and he broke the shackles in pieces. No one had the strength to subdue him. Night and day among the tombs and on the mountains he was always crying out and cutting himself with stones. And when he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and fell down before him.

[Jesus] was saying to him, “Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!” And Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” He replied, “My name is Legion, for we are many.” And he begged him earnestly not to send them out of the country. Now a great herd of pigs was feeding there on the hillside, and they begged him, saying, “Send us to the pigs; let us enter them.” So he gave them permission. And the unclean spirits came out and entered the pigs; and the herd, numbering about two thousand, rushed down the steep bank into the sea and drowned in the sea.​

Should the speculative religious scenario "reincarnation" be given preferred status over the possibility of non-mortal "unclean spirits" that continue to live with humans to the modern day?

Such non-mortal entities may have "demonized" those humans that actually did commit the horrific Jack the Ripper murders, the Black Dahlia murder, and the Elizabeth Bathory murders. Murderous spirits, speaking through Jenny, could give you all kinds of incidental details and it would not prove reincarnation. It would only prove that a sentient entity was present at the time of the murder, and is still present now, at the time of Jenny's hypnosis session. So much for proof of reincarnation.

The personalities expressed during Jenny's sessions admitted to ghastly crimes. If they admit to multiple homicides they could certainly lie without remorse. Why take their statements at face value?

Jenny's "abduction" experiences tied to unclean spirits???