Time Travellers

[SLVA]

Flame retardant clothing - check! Theory up for debate - check!
OK here goes, I'm sure you'll let me know if this has already been discussed in a previous thread.

For lots of reasons Time Travellers from our not too distant future, visiting regularly seems more and more appealing than the ETH. Plus if some insiders new about it and were in collusion, a private organisation seperate from nation state or law perhaps, governments would be wise to seem ignorant of it, and media to push the little green men. Meanwhile the military would be working behind the scenes back engineering etc to try and catch up. Sort of all in on it but cancelling each other out like in the Montgomery Burns Thread. All battling to change the timeline to suit their own outcome. The tech might be less than 60* years ahead say? I've always been suspicious of ET being bipedal but coming from light years away just to crash in a desert. So we could be up against ourselves only even more obsessed with genetic engineering, espionage etc. Most nuts and bolts conspiracies and fringe theories fit it don't they?
* Disclaimer -purely random number

Some of the stuff in the recent Rendlesham Thread prompted me to test this out...

 

[Angel of Ioren]

It's interesting that you bring this up today, as I just watched an episode of Through the Wormhole about time travel. Scientists do theorize that it is possible although Kip Thorne (Kip Thorne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) thinks that we are extremely far away from mastering the technology that would be needed. He said on the show that we are so far from being able to do it as an ameba is from our type of space travel.

Here's a link to a few clips from the show: Through the Wormhole: Time Travel : Videos : Science Channel

Time travel is so interesting to me. Thanks for bringing it up.

 

[Xylo]

We view time as pretty much linear...but what if the construct of time, keeping in mind the theory of relativity on a universal scale, was elastic-like a rubber band? If it's elastic then there may be some future technology that allows matter, or energy to transfer from one part of the folded ribbon to another part of the folded ribbon. I think it would be easier to transfer energy-in the form of electromagnetic spectrum than it would be to transfer matter.

But then again I'm not a quantum physicist, nor a theoretical physicist.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

We view time as pretty much linear...but what if the construct of time, keeping in mind the theory of relativity on a universal scale, was elastic-like a rubber band? If it's elastic then there may be some future technology that allows matter, or energy to transfer from one part of the folded ribbon to another part of the folded ribbon. I think it would be easier to transfer energy-in the form of electromagnetic spectrum than it would be to transfer matter.

But then again I'm not a quantum physicist, nor a theoretical physicist.

As long as you're not an armchair physicist - those guys are hacks.

 

[SLVA]

We measure a year by 365 rotations round the sun. But if we were on another planet or in another solar system a year would be different in length. So we measure time according to Einstein by the speed light travels at. We can also measure it by using an atomic clock. However my point is that time is subjective too, no? As we age and our bodies change this is thought of as the passing of time, but the aging process I've heard is encoded into our genes and scientists would like to understand it as there would be many interested parties in reversing that situation. A large animal like an elephant perceives time in slow motion compared to that of a fly, and yet a lifespan is also subjective. I know this is a dumb question but do people really have a definitive take on what time is?I apologise if this post annoys anyone, but I do find it all fascinating!

 

[Angel of Ioren]

We measure a year by 365 rotations round the sun. But if we were on another planet or in another solar system a year would be different in length. So we measure time according to Einstein by the speed light travels at. We can also measure it by using an atomic clock. However my point is that time is subjective too, no? As we age and our bodies change this is thought of as the passing of time, but the aging process I've heard is encoded into our genes and scientists would like to understand it as there would be many interested parties in reversing that situation. A large animal like an elephant perceives time in slow motion compared to that of a fly, and yet a lifespan is also subjective. I know this is a dumb question but do people really have a definitive take on what time is?I apologise if this post annoys anyone, but I do find it all fascinating!

The earth rotates around the Sun once in a year. A day is the Earth spinning on its axis.

 

[SLVA]

Indeed. Sigh it's been a long week. I need a holiday!

 

[Kandinsky]

Scientists do theorize that it is possible although Kip Thorne (Kip Thorne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) thinks that we are extremely far away from mastering the technology that would be needed. He said on the show that we are so far from being able to do it as an ameba is from our type of space travel.
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No matter how many times they turn out wrong, some scientists repeatedly make conclusive statements like this! This point is like something a stoner might say at a party...just pulled out of thin air. He *could* be right, but it's fairly hard to see how he came to this conclusion.

Only a visionary scientist could have imagined in 1910 that technology would be as it is today. We'd just started to fly. Now we've got a rover on Mars, people in the ISS and Voyager sending a stream of data from out on the edges of the solar system. We can talk to friends on the other side of the planet, text instantly. In a 100 more years, it's anyone's guess.

I imagine there could be some kind of UFO forum where people are arguing about what needs to be done to get the government to 'disclose!'