looking forward to more fatima, nostradamus 2012 shenanigans
I haven't listened yet to this episode with Louis Jarvis, but speeking of Fatima, on a previous episode, Louis refered many times to the apparition as "the lady of the nation", if I recall exactly. I don't know where he has this naming from? I personnally don't recall having heard of it before in my readings on this case.
Joaquim Fernandes and Fina d'Armada, two portuguese historians, went through yet undiscovered documents and wrote a famous trilogy on this case. From the early testimonies of the children on which they most relied on in their second book (celestial secrets), the apparition would have presented herself as the "lady of the Rosary" , not "of the nation" (or maybe is there a connexion between the two I don't know about?). Also, from the description the children gave of the apparition, it also appears that her appearence was in fact quite different from that of the Virgin Mary for who she has been assimilated to, assimilation the authors dispute. In fact, they think and show with some quite strong arguments, from my point of view, that Lucia, with the help of the church congregation she has entered after this event (the jesuits) somehow portrayed and rewrote this event in order to make it appear as a "Marial apparition" which would serve their goals.
From my understanding of this other episode, Louis was mostly acknowledging the "official" religious version of the Fatima case and the 3 secrets. I'm personnaly quite doubtful about this official version and I do tend to think along the ideas of Joaquim Fernandes and Fina d'Armada, that this branch of the church has appropriated this event to serve its purposes.
I don't know where to put this, so I just write it here. Is there something like the "question bank" of the paracast for DMR, Don? I see that you post the show that you plan to air on the forum. So is there a possibility to ask some questions for your guest by this mean or something like this, provided they are not too late?