It would be really interesting to see a debate between actual physicists and Moulton Howe and friends. But I think the scientific community has largely come to the conclusion that it's not worth it, since those who don't understand what they are saying wouldn't change their minds anyway, and would see the debate itself as an indication that the claims themselves are worthy of such debate. Creationists are a good example of that. That nutcase Ken Ham for example has himself stated that the debate he had (and factually of course lost) with Bill Nye gave the necessary publicity for successful fundraising for their hilarious Ark theme park. So it is highly questionable whether Nye should have done that.
What this subject matter really needs is finding the kind of middle ground where one group tries to avoid believing stuff without evidence and the other group tries to avoid ridiculing those possibilities that are actually plausible, and then it could be possible and worth it to sit down together and have meaningful discussions.
The Nimitz case for example seems to be the kind where the people who have been closely involved with it and visible in the media represent that kind of middle ground, where rational discussion together could be hugely beneficial for everybody. Are there any organizations that could be capable and willing to basically inviting the relevant persons to sit around a single table and talk about it on camera for an hour or so? Persons like David Fravor, Jim Slaight, Luis Elizondo, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Seth Shostak and Michio Kaku (and preferably one of those radar operators as a special surprise, if one can make a wish). Is that too much to ask?
Think for example the idea that we might actually live just inside some simulation (run by somebody in the future or an alien for example). Isn't that idea at least as "out there" as the possibility of some other lifeforms visiting here? Yet, Neil deGrasse Tyson for example, who was rolling his eyes in the media about these recent UFO cases, didn't just participate in such a debate, he hosted one, and argued that we probably do live inside a simulation:
Neil deGrasse Tyson says it's 'very likely' the universe is a simulation - ExtremeTech
So, wouldn't it be well worth if for serious people like those to try to figure it out together and to show to the world how they really feel about it if they actually sit face to face with those persons who they might easily dismiss in the media?
