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stonehart said:
Yeah very strange .. as it would happen there was a sighting not far from me on the 28th last month .


New Zealand UFO Sightings 2012 - UFocus
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It is strange. I wish that I could playback for you what my brain has recorded in the last 2 years. I get my camcorder on Tuesday!
 
I think we could be seeing an increase in UFO reports and sightings now in the near future due to the increased use of remote controlled aircraft by civilians and law enforcement.
 
trainedobserver said:
I think we could be seeing an increase in UFO reports and sightings now in the near future due to the increased use of remote controlled aircraft by civilians and law enforcement.
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That could result in an increased amount of mistaken sightings. I was referring to the large amount of sightings that are not out aircraft.
 
Voyager said:
That could result in an increased amount of mistaken sightings. I was referring to the large amount of sightings that are not out aircraft.
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Well, that is just my point. How do you tell the difference? I understand the objects you have observed do not really appear to be man-made remotely controlled vehicles of any known design. However, I think the misidentifications are up and increasing as more things, some very odd looking UAV and RC aircraft, are readily available to a wide variety of people.

I'm still hoping to see something myself. There have numerous UFO reports in my immediate area but I yet to see anything I could not identify.
 
You can't expect them to be everywhere simultaneously. Only time will tell if any of this is of any significance. This is so far beyond the framework of normal existence it is difficult to put into perspective. I have been involved with this off and on since 1976. I can see what has changed over the years. Don't take my word for it. I am not trying to, nor will I ever, try to prove anything to anybody. The evidence will speak for itself. It won't be the government that will make disclosure. More and more people who have seen them first hand are aware of their existence; the general public is not yet cognizant of the fact. Sometimes I wish it weren't true, life would be much less complicated and easier to explain. On the other hand, I find it to be fascinating. I just wish we could learn more about the underlying reality of the phenomenon.
 
Mostly I am uninterested in reports of objects in the sky that just look strange, as this can indeed just be drones or other objects in the sky.
What I am interested in and what immediately stands out from mistaken aircraft, is anything that behaves in a way that defies conventional flight characteristics. Instant acceleration, right-hand turns on a dime etc, all these things cannot be conventional craft or even advanced prototypes - unless that is companies such as Lockheed have found ways to negate inertia etc.

It is only reports of movement such as outlined above that interest me at all in the UFO field.
 
trainedobserver said:
I think we could be seeing an increase in UFO reports and sightings now in the near future due to the increased use of remote controlled aircraft by civilians and law enforcement.
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We do not have them here in NZ and the use of Larger remote controlled aircraft is restricted to clubs.
 
My favourite NZ case is this one

Pouraua South Road stretches for a mile across a gravel surface on the Hauraki Plains. It heads into an uninviting scrubland where manuka bushes predominate. Here a fifty-acre block of land is owned by a former dairy farmer, Bert O’Neil, who on 4 September 1969 made a startling discovery. Something, it appeared, had landed on his property leaving a bleached circle of manuka about fifty feet across, there were three V-shaped grooves of disturbed peat soil in the centre of the circle, each about two or three inches deep and spaced precisely nine feet apart. Nowhere had the manuka been crushed, leading Mr. O’Neil to theorize that “three legs had been slid into the ground and then splayed outward.”

A reporter for one of Auckland’s weekend newspapers wrote:
“The manuka, which is extremely healthy elsewhere, seems to have been bleached grey-white and dry by heat inside the clearly defined circle. The scrub has definitely not been burned.” ​
The Ngatea circle caused considerable excitement — more than any previously reported UFO sighting in New Zealand, in fact, for here at least was something tangible. Hordes of people came by car for days after, trampling about the area in search of heaven knows what.

As usual, official investigators were among the late arrivals, and before long the explanations were coming at rapid-fire pace. The area had been hit by a “blight,” thus the grey-white manuka; the marks in the ground had been made by pigs, rooting for feed; and so on. A fungus was found to be growing on the manuka, and this was acclaimed as the cause of the condition of the scrub — although no one was able to state why only a near-perfect circle had been attacked. Then it was found by scientific examination of the manuka, that the branches and trunks were dry of sap and had been “cooked” from the inside out — rather as if they had been exposed to extreme radiation.

A TV garden-show host, Reg Chibnall, made independent tests on the soils from inside the circle and from outside; he found that seed grew normally in the latter soils, but produced miserable, diseased-looking plants in pots containing soil from inside the circle. The then Minister of Science favored the fungus-and-pigs version and dismissed the whole affair. Meanwhile, scientists at Auckland University concluded that dead spiders in the bleached manuka area had been killed from radiation. Mr. Don Lockwood, of Waihi, made another interesting discovery: twenty-two feet out from the centre-line position of the ground marks, the manuka showed signs of where the radiation had ended and the rest of the tree had died. This point of demarcation was just above ground level, but increased in height up the trees the further to the south the checks were made.

Tree and other samples were collected by Mr. H.L. Cooke, of Tauranga, and these were examined by a horticulturist in the same city. Mr. Stuart-Menzies, who gave the following report:
“The scrub is radioactive and has been cooked instantaneously from the inside outward. I know of no earthly source of energy which could produce this effect. The manuka was bleached dry but showed no visible signs of burning. Every ounce of moisture in the plant had been instantaneously vaporized, and it was bone-dry and brittle. ​
This is most unusual in manuka, which normally takes a long time to dry out. Some kind of high-frequency radiation cooked the material from the inside outward. The energy received reduced the pith to black carbon, without the outside showing any sign of burning. The cells in the medullary rays were burnt by the sudden vaporization of cell sap. A meteorite or lightning could not do this, and it was too sudden for combustion.” ​
Mr. Stuart-Menzies added that the process appeared to have been similar to that employed in infra-red-cooking, “but on an enormous scale.” ​
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Long before microwave ovens were in use, scientists from the university concluded the spiders had been cooked from the inside out............

Not swamp gas, venus, or a weather balloon then
 
Mike, that one is totally new to me. I have to say, the case from NZ that Maccabee analysed is one of my fav's. The fact that after reports of UFOs seen by the mail-run plane they decided to send a news camera team up with the next plane and recorded minute after minute of pretty close UFO footage.
I remember how the reported said he was glad to get back on the ground, the whole thing I think shook him up quite a bit.

When Bruce analysed the footage there is one frame in which it looks like the UFO makes some amazing about-turns and zig-zag movements - I'm not sure of the frame-rate of the camera used but you can bet that single frame was capturing events in the order of a tenth of second or less. This is precisely the aspect of UFOLOGY that interests me. Movement that seems to defy inertia and absolutely is a million miles away from what any aircraft we can build are capable of.
 
Yeah NZ has some of the best cases ive seen, and since there are no US bases there the "testing" of new craft scenario is a lot less likely.
The physical trace evidence in the one i posted is one thats never been explained imo
 
mike said:
Yeah NZ has some of the best cases ive seen, and since there are no US bases there the "testing" of new craft scenario is a lot less likely.
The physical trace evidence in the one i posted is one thats never been explained imo
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We do not have Drones here either, and Large Radio Controlled aircraft have strict codes as to where they can be flown and at what heights as far as I remember.

I do personally know a number of people who have had some very interesting close encounters over the years around the east coast where I live..
 
Just reading over at the Unexplained forum some one trying to say it is glow bugs that people are seeing...

Ok for a start we do not have firefly's or glow bugs here.. we have glow worms but you only find them in very specific locations and they do not fly! they are worms! well a grub really.

So I said

"Yeah we have them flying over the city etc all the time them glow worms... big suckers... rip your head off if you do not watch out."
 
Stoney, the debunking-skeptic will grab onto the flimsiest of possible explanations for a UFO sighting and they will stick with it, even if it is more unlikely than a real UFO.

For example, if there were an arctic bird that looked like a flying triangle in silhouette, someone could see the outline of a triangle UFO in the sahara desert. The debunker would attribute the sighting to the arctic bird, even though they know damn well those birds would be nowhere near the sahara desert.
Debunkers will accept absolutely any explanation, regardless of how flimsy. Anything other than an actual UFO.
 
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