Zebra or the Logos
Skilled Investigator
I would like to tell you about an experience that I had in the summer of 2011 after taking 3.5 grams of mushrooms and smoking a good amount of cannabis. I am wondering if anyone might have any thoughts on this experience and if my questions parallel your own in some way.
I am 39 and have experience with mushrooms, LSD, MDMA, 2C-B, DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, salvia, mescaline, ketamine, and cannabis dating back to 1991. I have had many strange, magnificent, terrifying and beautiful experiences but I have one particular experience that I would very much like to receive feedback on.
The sun was up and I was baseline having taken the shrooms at around midnight, standing outside my house in Santa Fe (New Mexico) smoking a cigarette. I was looking north-west toward Los Alamos, toward the Jemez mountains I think. I looked up and saw a small gray-silver craft hovering above the foothills that were probably 200 yds away from me. The craft was perhaps the most ridiculous looking thing that I had ever seen. It was if it were being dangled by a string, something from and Ed Wood movie. It was wobbly and kooky looking. I wanted to laugh but i was stunned and sort of immobile for a second. I shifted my gaze to refocus and regain my perspective and the craft appeared at whatever point in the sky that my eyes stopped at. It seemed like I was directing the position of the craft on the horizon with my gaze. It was impossibly fast and seemed to know, almost before I did, where I was going to look. The craft anticipated the shift of my my eyes and seemed a part of me.
I remember getting the distinct feeling that this was real, even more real than real and that I was somehow projecting this object from inside myself. It was an actual moment of the uncanny the Freudian Das Unheimliche. I thought of Jungian and Lacanian ideas about fugitive psychic energy escaping and manifesting itself in plain reality. I thought of the McKenna’s and their experiment at La Chorrera. I became paranoid and fear stricken that I had really lost it, that I had finally blown something loose. I ran over to some trees and hid my view from the craft. I waited for a second or two and then looked at the sky and there it was. We played peek-a-boo for several minutes as I would hide behind a tree and look up at the sky and it would, again, reappear. The craft seemed playful, benevolent and kind of bored but I really got paranoid as I felt that I could not get away from its all-seeing eye. I ran indoors into my bedroom and hid in my bed until I calmed down. I went back outside maybe 15 minutes later to see if it was still there and it was gone.
I couldn’t help being struck by how ridiculous the craft appeared, it really was kooky in a 1950’s Sci-fi double-feature kind of way. I felt a cruel irony of “here is your alien contact but it’s too absurd to talk about, not glamorous, sleek, cool or futuristic in any sense of the word so forget about people being interested in the story“. I don’t, of course, know if it was projected from my consciousness or not but the fact that it kept following, even anticipating my gaze left me thinking that it was attached to or a part of me. All of this was just so weird that it somehow made up for the banality of it all. I did feel attacked, kind of, as if it were able to gain control at any minute.
I am aware of the research of Terence Mckenna, Rick Strassman, John Lilly…etc. ..and I had been convinced that contact of this sort occurred in hyperspace and not with silver ships and little green men. So it left me with some questions, as mushrooms are known to get all Halloween-y but this was pretty different. If you have any thoughts or similar experiences I would love to hear about it. Can we project these things, do they happen in the here and now or hyperspace?
I do believe that I saw this craft though; it was real to me and not a hallucination. Since I began experimentation with these substances in 91, I have always felt that an increase in synchronicity, coincidences, De-ja-vu and the uncanny almost always follow a trip. I have never experienced such a direct intrusion or crumbling of reality while baseline though. From other experiences with triptamines, I am confident that mushrooms can put one into contact with alien intelligence and I have experienced this purely in hyperspace (through the mind) and through lived, felt experience with the phenomenal world(s) but this was always while under the effects of the mushroom, DMT or what have you.
I'm sure that most of you are familiar with The McKenna’s work on mushrooms and UFO's and Rick Strassman's work at UNM in the 90's with DMT. No matter what you believe, all you have to do is try these substances with the correct set & setting and you will receive the evidence needed to understand how such theories of entity contact can hold-up so strongly. Without getting too deep into a McKenna-style rap about how mushrooms came from outer space and contain alien intelligence and how they are responsible for the evolution of language and consciousness among the mammals that ate them, I wonder if taking consistent, low-doses of mushrooms (so that one could function normally) could put one into permanent contact with alien entities, tune-oneself-in or make one open to the communication. That’s what they did at La Chorrera but with constant, huge doses (I think that’s pretty much all they had to eat-a steady diet of mushrooms rich in triptamine...for weeks). I don’t think it turned out to good for Dennis so I am thinking about this low-does idea. Do any of you know of any writers who explicitly explore the link between triptamines (specifically mushrooms and DMT) and UFO's or direct entity contact, besides the McKenna’s and Strassman?
I am 39 and have experience with mushrooms, LSD, MDMA, 2C-B, DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, salvia, mescaline, ketamine, and cannabis dating back to 1991. I have had many strange, magnificent, terrifying and beautiful experiences but I have one particular experience that I would very much like to receive feedback on.
The sun was up and I was baseline having taken the shrooms at around midnight, standing outside my house in Santa Fe (New Mexico) smoking a cigarette. I was looking north-west toward Los Alamos, toward the Jemez mountains I think. I looked up and saw a small gray-silver craft hovering above the foothills that were probably 200 yds away from me. The craft was perhaps the most ridiculous looking thing that I had ever seen. It was if it were being dangled by a string, something from and Ed Wood movie. It was wobbly and kooky looking. I wanted to laugh but i was stunned and sort of immobile for a second. I shifted my gaze to refocus and regain my perspective and the craft appeared at whatever point in the sky that my eyes stopped at. It seemed like I was directing the position of the craft on the horizon with my gaze. It was impossibly fast and seemed to know, almost before I did, where I was going to look. The craft anticipated the shift of my my eyes and seemed a part of me.
I remember getting the distinct feeling that this was real, even more real than real and that I was somehow projecting this object from inside myself. It was an actual moment of the uncanny the Freudian Das Unheimliche. I thought of Jungian and Lacanian ideas about fugitive psychic energy escaping and manifesting itself in plain reality. I thought of the McKenna’s and their experiment at La Chorrera. I became paranoid and fear stricken that I had really lost it, that I had finally blown something loose. I ran over to some trees and hid my view from the craft. I waited for a second or two and then looked at the sky and there it was. We played peek-a-boo for several minutes as I would hide behind a tree and look up at the sky and it would, again, reappear. The craft seemed playful, benevolent and kind of bored but I really got paranoid as I felt that I could not get away from its all-seeing eye. I ran indoors into my bedroom and hid in my bed until I calmed down. I went back outside maybe 15 minutes later to see if it was still there and it was gone.
I couldn’t help being struck by how ridiculous the craft appeared, it really was kooky in a 1950’s Sci-fi double-feature kind of way. I felt a cruel irony of “here is your alien contact but it’s too absurd to talk about, not glamorous, sleek, cool or futuristic in any sense of the word so forget about people being interested in the story“. I don’t, of course, know if it was projected from my consciousness or not but the fact that it kept following, even anticipating my gaze left me thinking that it was attached to or a part of me. All of this was just so weird that it somehow made up for the banality of it all. I did feel attacked, kind of, as if it were able to gain control at any minute.
I am aware of the research of Terence Mckenna, Rick Strassman, John Lilly…etc. ..and I had been convinced that contact of this sort occurred in hyperspace and not with silver ships and little green men. So it left me with some questions, as mushrooms are known to get all Halloween-y but this was pretty different. If you have any thoughts or similar experiences I would love to hear about it. Can we project these things, do they happen in the here and now or hyperspace?
I do believe that I saw this craft though; it was real to me and not a hallucination. Since I began experimentation with these substances in 91, I have always felt that an increase in synchronicity, coincidences, De-ja-vu and the uncanny almost always follow a trip. I have never experienced such a direct intrusion or crumbling of reality while baseline though. From other experiences with triptamines, I am confident that mushrooms can put one into contact with alien intelligence and I have experienced this purely in hyperspace (through the mind) and through lived, felt experience with the phenomenal world(s) but this was always while under the effects of the mushroom, DMT or what have you.
I'm sure that most of you are familiar with The McKenna’s work on mushrooms and UFO's and Rick Strassman's work at UNM in the 90's with DMT. No matter what you believe, all you have to do is try these substances with the correct set & setting and you will receive the evidence needed to understand how such theories of entity contact can hold-up so strongly. Without getting too deep into a McKenna-style rap about how mushrooms came from outer space and contain alien intelligence and how they are responsible for the evolution of language and consciousness among the mammals that ate them, I wonder if taking consistent, low-doses of mushrooms (so that one could function normally) could put one into permanent contact with alien entities, tune-oneself-in or make one open to the communication. That’s what they did at La Chorrera but with constant, huge doses (I think that’s pretty much all they had to eat-a steady diet of mushrooms rich in triptamine...for weeks). I don’t think it turned out to good for Dennis so I am thinking about this low-does idea. Do any of you know of any writers who explicitly explore the link between triptamines (specifically mushrooms and DMT) and UFO's or direct entity contact, besides the McKenna’s and Strassman?
