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UFO's: 'In God We Trust' vs 'Out of many, One'

Did conservative religious belief corrupt Condon committee conclusions?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • No

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • No, ET is an atheist

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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A simple change of message with fundamental consequences. IMHO, The 1956 transition from 'Out of many, One' to 'In God We Trust' brings in to light how UFO's were going to be addressed for the years to come. Unfortunately, resolution 396 sets up a (Christianity based) supreme being flavor to what the USA is supposed to be all about. Its easy to observe the perverse effects of that change as it translates today into ideas and movements like 'Intelligent Design', Young earth creationists, the rise of the evangelical movement, ultimately the corruption of political parties like the GOP and the slow road to a theocracy. Some people today actually believe that the USA is a 'christian' nation (a religious state) as much as Israel is a Jewish state.

Travel back to the conservative religious 1960's and try to get an objective report from the Condon Committee ;)
Condon Committee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edward Condon was born on March 2, 1902, in Alamogordo, New Mexico to William Edward Condon and Carolyn Uhler Condon. His father was supervising the construction of a narrow-gauge railroad.[1][2] He was raised a Quaker.[3] After graduating from high school in Oakland, California in 1918, he worked as a journalist for three years at the Oakland Inquirer and other papers.[1]
Read more: Edward Condon: Information from Answers.com


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E pluribus unum (/ˈiː ˈplʊərɨbəs ˈuːnəm/; Latin: [ˈeː ˈpluːrɪbʊs ˈuːnũː])—Latin for "Out of many, one"[1][2] (alternatively translated as "One out of many"[3] or "One from many"[4])—is a phrase on the Seal of the United States, along with Annuit cœptis (Latin for "He approves (has approved) of the undertaking") and Novus ordo seclorum, (Latin for "New Order of the Ages") and adopted by an Act of Congress in 1782.[2] Never codified by law, E pluribus unum was considered a de facto motto of the United States[citation needed] until 1956 when the United States Congress passed an act (H. J. Resolution 396), adopting "In God We Trust" as the official motto.[5]
E pluribus unum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Another way to put this: The Condon Committee results were shaped by the social context/fabric of the times which was not favorable to the disclosure of an alien presence (...and still isn't ;)).

.... and maybe this weird scenario from John Lear (on the Art Bell show) ;)
the John lear statementon ufos - crowdedskies.com
At this point it became apparent to all involved that there was no such thing as a God, at least how the public perceives God. Certainly some form of computer recorder stores information and an occasional miracle is displayed by the aliens to influence a religious event. This so unnerved Eisenhower that he had "In God We Trust" put on paper money and coins and put in the Pledge of Allegiance to reaffirm the public belief in God. Shortly after this it was determined in meetings between the US and the Russians that the situation was serious enough that a cold war should be manufactured as a ruse to divert attention of the public away from UFOs towards some other scary threat like the H-bomb. It was also decided to keep the ruse secret from any elected or appointed officials within both the US and Russian governments as it took so long to vet these officials and the ruse was easier to manage if the top people didn't know about it.

All right John... So this UFO/Alien agenda thing is so scary that Eisenhower had to run and hide under a 'In God We Trust' security blanket and create an Armageddon scare? That pretty much paints an immature society, condescending to the max. Big Mac chewers with no brains. MOOOOOO LOL. (... but then again how many times did we find out that reality was weirder than any current fiction).

America's True History of Religious Tolerance | History & Archaeology | Smithsonian Magazine
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Future President James Madison stepped into the breach. In a carefully argued essay titled “Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments,” the soon-to-be father of the Constitution eloquently laid out reasons why the state had no business supporting Christian instruction. Signed by some 2,000 Virginians, Madison’s argument became a fundamental piece of American political philosophy, a ringing endorsement of the secular state that “should be as familiar to students of American history as the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution,” as Susan Jacoby has written in Freethinkers, her excellent history of American secularism.

Secularism is a threat to conservatives (especially from Texas ;)) as UFO's or aliens are a threat to fundamental flavors of practiced Christianity in the US which are way more radical than the messages coming out of the Vatican these days.

CNS STORY: Vatican astronomer says if aliens exist, they may not need redemption
Jesuit Father Jose Funes, director of the Vatican Observatory, said Christians should consider alien life as an "extraterrestrial brother" and a part of God's creation.

Time for a 'God Warrior' moment ROFL
Better to deal with these types than any alien ?
 
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Travel back to the conservative religious 1960's and try to get an objective report ...

You might also want to note that Chief of Staff, General Hoyt S. Vandenberg who rejected the famous Estimate of The Situation was a communicant of the Episcopal Church. Religion in the US Air Force has a history of divisiveness, and it wasn't until the late 20th century that the possibility of alien life gained wider acceptance in mainstream religion. So I don't doubt that personal religious beliefs played a part in suppressing public interest in UFOs during the Early Modern Era. They already had to deal with "the Devil's music" ( rock 'n roll ), so imagine a whole new movement based on super beings from the sky. It must have shaken the church up pretty good, and even today there's a certain faction of religious zealots who preach that UFOs are "transports from Hell".
 
You might also want to note that Chief of Staff, General Hoyt S. Vandenberg who rejected the famous Estimate of The Situation was a communicant of the Episcopal Church. Religion in the US Air Force has a history of divisiveness, and it wasn't until the late 20th century that the possibility of alien life gained wider acceptance in mainstream religion. So I don't doubt that personal religious beliefs played a part in suppressing public interest in UFOs during the Early Modern Era. They already had to deal with "the Devil's music" ( rock 'n roll ), so imagine a whole new movement based on super beings from the sky. It must have shaken the church up pretty good, and even today there's a certain faction of religious zealots who preach that UFOs are "transports from Hell".

Elvis had barely been allowed to move his pelvis
Culture Shock: Flashpoints: Music and Dance: Elvis Presley
Presley has already appeared six times on national television, but it is his appearance on The Milton Berle Show on June 5, 1956, that triggers the first controversy of his career. Presley sings his latest single, "Hound Dog," with all the pelvis-shaking intensity his fans scream for. Television critics across the country slam the performance for its "appalling lack of musicality," for its "vulgarity" and "animalism." The Catholic Church takes up the criticism in its weekly organ in a piece headlined "Beware Elvis Presley." Concerns about juvenile delinquency and the changing moral values of the young find a new target in the popular singer.
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2013 ?
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ROFL
 
Whew !!! I worry too much... or do I ? !!!

By the looks of it... the 'situation' is under control... for now :)
School bus driver and Christian preacher fired for leading students in prayer in violation of Supreme Court ruling | Mail Online

A pastor from Minnesota moonlighting as a school bus driver is crying foul after he says he was fired from his day job for leading kids in Christian prayers on his bus.
George Nathaniel III, 49, of Richfield, who is a cleric at two Minneapolis churches, was in his second year as a school bus driver for Durham School Services, which is under contract to the Burnsville-Eagan-Savage district.
According to Mr Nathaniel, his superiors at Durham School Services initially gave him a written warning and assigned him two new bus routes after receiving a complaint about the prayers.

To which George replied:
Nathaniel is determined to fight for prayer aboard school buses, and he hopes other pastors will join his campaign.

They are trying to take away every right the Christian has to express our Christian belief in this supposed to have been Christian nation,’ he told the station WCCO.

Gayla Colin, a bus driver for 13 years in the district, told the Star Tribune that her former colleague’s actions were inappropriate, especially since many of the students are Muslim
 
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