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Siani

Siani

Despiser of religious nuts
Bizarre orange balls light up night sky

I missed them (phew!), although it sounds as if they flew right over the bay that my house looks down on. Sadly, it seems the only images available at the moment are indistinct and grainy. My first suspicion would have been that they were Chinese lanterns - except these objects were said to accelerate at speed.
 
Ahhh the goo dol' balls of light in the sky. You know there has been so many of these incidents caught on camera. I don't know whether they are all the same phenomenan but there is a large number of cases.
I have posted the stratford one below, and i am sure there are a lot of people who have seen the UFO docs where they show clips with hundreds of these balls of light in the sky, and the ST Petersberg incident of the 90's (i think) also bore resembalence.
To date, i havent seen a single explanation that explains them. Take for example the one i have posted below. initially it looks like chinese lanterns, but then when the one from the right comes flying in, and joins the group, it kind of negates that explanation.
In the video (i think taken in brazil or mexico) where u see hundreds of them, its highly unlikely that that is chinese lantenrs as there are hundreds of them.
So what are they?? IMO there is far too little data to say that they are alien craft from another world/dimension/time, and i don't think that the explanation about charged static energy from tectonic plates is a good explanation either.
I would be really interested to here anyone elses opinion, or if anyone has the clips of these balls of light in the sky that would be good.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3MJl-YTuYo8
 
Also, i would like to add, that in a few UFO docs, they have talked about some guy in the middle ages who wrote about seeing hundreds of balls of light in the sky that apeared to fight each other, and there was a piece of artwork done at the time of the occurance that really resembles the incident i was talking about in south america.
There's definately something going on here, whether its paranormal or not
 
Hoffmeister said:
So what are they?? IMO there is far too little data to say that they are alien craft from another world/dimension/time
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That's just it. I get frustrated at the fact that so many people consider 'UFO' and 'alien craft' to be interchangeable.
 
Why do they come in all differnt colours, what does that mean? when we have coloured things they are usually artifical. But these balls of lights seemed designed for a purpose . what it is i dont know? like we have motorcars in different colours and shapes, are an alien species just like us, they have there favourite colours lol

Are they a type of transport for beings or some type of entity....a ship with a being inside it weird probably rubbish who knows.If they where a supernatural being with know physical body to speak of, it might make more sense, once again just another theory.
 
Siani said:
That's just it. I get frustrated at the fact that so many people consider 'UFO' and 'alien craft' to be interchangeable.
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Well this is just it, the first question we need to ask is: Is it a craft at all?
UFO doesnt neccesarily mean a flying craft with some sort of being inside of it. It originally meant 'Unidentified flying object' of course, which by its very nature is unidentified.

One of my main and only disagreements with Gene, David, and many of the paracast forumers is the suggestion that if it is a craft, that it might be not from another planet.... but instead from another dimension or somewhere else.
People talk about dimensions like it is some sort of scientific fact. In fact it has become and increasingly common topic in the paracast. Lots of people are like 'oh ET is dated now, current thinking is that these craft are highly likely to be interdimensional etc'.
I mean, what does that mean? For starters, we have no idea that there even are any other dimensions. The very far edge of scientific theory hypothesises that there might be other dimensions, but even in these far out topics the dimensions are minescule and only exist at the quantum level.
When you are talking about aliens from another planet.... well i canunderstand that, as we know there are other planets.... when you are talking about aliens from other dimensions.... well that is one step to far for me in my current state of mind.

Perhaps this is another thread altogether, but I welcome constructive, critical opinions on this....
 
Irishseekers said:
Why do they come in all differnt colours, what does that mean? when we have coloured things they are usually artifical. But these balls of lights seemed designed for a purpose . what it is i dont know? like we have motorcars in different colours and shapes, are an alien species just like us, they have there favourite colours lol

Are they a type of transport for beings or some type of entity....a ship with a being inside it weird probably rubbish who knows.If they where a supernatural being with know physical body to speak of, it might make more sense, once again just another theory.
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Well this is it, i havent really seen examples of different colours with my own eyes, most of the orbs i have seen in videos are just yellowy / white. So maybe there are different phenomena involved here.
 
Like all we have is reports hoff, that is all we can go on. Well i saw a green, red,blue, type of light blue one turned to ball maybe that is a orb.You have seen white and yellow ones on video. That is five just there and i bet you people on this forum have seen totally different colours from what i mentioned?

Know maybe the lights are the same phenomen, they just have differents colours, or they might have different design purposes if you know what i mean?
 
Irishseekers said:
Like all we have is reports hoff, that is all we can go on. Well i saw a green, red,blue, type of light blue one turned to ball maybe that is a orb.You have seen white and yellow ones on video. That is five just there and i bet you people on this forum have seen totally different colours from what i mentioned?

Know maybe the lights are the same phenomen, they just have differents colours, or they might have different design purposes if you know what i mean?
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Possibly mate, but whilst i can't be sure, i would hedge a bet that the orbs we are describing in this thread, and the lights that you saw in the sky are two different phenomena.

The orbs in my viedo, and the ones i am talking about are relatively mundane and unexciting. They are just balls of light moving bizarrely in the sky. The lights that you saw are much more dramatic and IMO would appear to be a different situation.
They both share the fact that i have no idea what either of them are.... :confused:
 
I Know what your saying hoff ,and you make a good case. But i really do feel that some of what is going on is dimensional.To me some of the stuff seems, and looking at some of my own encounters. That some type of crossover into our world is happrning. I am not a scientist, so i havent got the facts what is truth and what is bullshit.

Maybe i am wrong and maybe i am right?
 
Well that is really a matter of opinion, i cant say for sure that they werent orbs, red and green ones where definately flat. But they could reappear somewhere else in the world as orbs if that makes any sense? blue one was flat, then it changed, so i am really stuck on this one!

Video will never be the same as seen it in person....But the longer it stays the more compelling the video will be.
 
Ah mate, i don't think it matters whether you're as scientist or not, when it comes to this topic it makes no difference.
I just don't understand why people need to take it to the next level... the dimensional level. I mean what do they mean by inter-dimensional. As far as we know at the moment there are no other dimensions...
What is wrong with the good old fashioned idea that these beings... if they really exist, are just from another planet, but with technology 100's or maybe even 1000's of years in front of our own. at least that fits in with current thinking.
Say that the lights you saw in the sky were created by beings from another place... whats wrong with theb idea that they were just being from another planet. why do they have to be beings from another dimension.
how are people defining this dimension, and what ideas are they basing the existance of other dimensions on. To me it seems just fantasy.... but i would love to be proved wrong.
 
I Meant if i was scientist i might have a better understanding of dimensions, so i could give a better reasoning for my theories, since i am i not, i cant.
I agree with you Hoff that is the problem, if we had answers, we would not be here now,

We might have different entitys visiting us who knows..?where do they come from?what planet? what do they believe in? how do they get here?do they have a mother or father like us? There is so many questions....We know of the greys and the blondes....what other entitys?are in the folklore, shape shifters another example....I cant think of anymore.

We have maybe three to six versions of ufo type ships and crafts....are they all from the same planet there is so many questions we will probably never get answers. For me at least these entitys dont want the whole world to know they exist. Or maybe something here on Earth doesnt want them to show us they do exist.?
 
In my mind, the simplest answer IF there truly is anything to any of the UFO cases (and i believe there probably is) is that yes, there are probably a number of different races out there and they come from various planets scattered around the universe.
Some may be what we consider good, whilst others may have different morals to us. I would think all of them would have given up starting wars with themselves and others long ago as I believe this is probably a pre-requisite to interstellar travel. The reason for this is that I believe that a race who doesnt will destroy itself with technology way before it ever gets to serious interstellar travel.
Look at us, we're not far from it now and probably have atleast 200 years before we get it.
The reasons behind them being so secretive could be:
1. they don't want us trying to shoot them down
2. They are studying us like we would animals. They don't want to be seen as this would affect the data of their studies.
3. There is a star trek style "don't mess with the cavemen until they have interstellar travel" treaty in place.

Personally i like 2 or 3 but i know 3 is deeply unpopular with some people.

You might argue that interstellar travel is by its very nature inter-dimensional.... but we have no evidence of this yet.
 
Hoffmeister said:
In my mind, the simplest answer IF there truly is anything to any of the UFO cases (and i believe there probably is) is that yes, there are probably a number of different races out there and they come from various planets scattered around the universe.
Some may be what we consider good, whilst others may have different morals to us. I would think all of them would have given up starting wars with themselves and others long ago as I believe this is probably a pre-requisite to interstellar travel. The reason for this is that I believe that a race who doesnt will destroy itself with technology way before it ever gets to serious interstellar travel.
Look at us, we're not far from it now and probably have atleast 200 years before we get it.
The reasons behind them being so secretive could be:
1. they don't want us trying to shoot them down
2. They are studying us like we would animals. They don't want to be seen as this would affect the data of their studies.
3. There is a star trek style "don't mess with the cavemen until they have interstellar travel" treaty in place.

Personally i like 2 or 3 but i know 3 is deeply unpopular with some people.

You might argue that interstellar travel is by its very nature inter-dimensional.... but we have no evidence of this yet.
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Ya it like a puzzle with no ending, or a puzzle with lots of the pieces missing.
Maybe we are not allowed to know, maybe there is a law, call it a cosmic law if you want, that forbids any contact on a mainstream level eg no full contact with the humans they cant know we exist for real it will hurt our plans or our agenda? i think you understand what i am getting at ,and i think you where hinting at the same thing

I sometimes wonder when we "die" do we go to a place similar to a dimension or perhaps it is a dimension, i have some knowledge on this subject but i must confess it aint great, so i be only talking rubbish if i started waffleing on about the dimension theory.

There could be only one type of entity visiting us, or there could be a number of entitys nobody really has that answer, ok maybe someone does, but i havent heard anything that seems geniune yet?


Well nobody knows for sure can we shoot them down. I wouldnt go shooting down any craft that is a mile long or bigger, i think that would be stupid "unless"maybe they dont have weapons that are extremely destructive on board there craft,we just guess that they could, but we have no real prove, really do we?

I think there may be good and evil entitys visiting us. We cant be so sure to that fact.But i would not be surprised if there was. I Really do think "SPECIES" from other worlds have visited us, but i cant be sure, i dont know if this stuff is produced by the brain or something which is far beyond human understanding ,and i believe people have to be honest.
There encounters are happening on this planet, not on far off planet or dimension, so i think we must look for some of the answers here on this planet ?
 
Has anyone seen the latest Fortean Times yet? I hope to get hold of it sometime this weekend. Nick Redfern has an article in it about efforts by the military to harness ball lightning and use it as a weapon. He's also uncovered evidence which suggests an attempt to use ball lightning to create fake UFO events, as part of psychological warfare.

UFOMystic UFO Weaponry

A possible explanation for some UFOs? Is it a coincidence that some of these light balls were seen over South Wales during a military operation? Impossible to know, but intriguing to consider :).
 
Siani, can I ask, how did the Paracast go? What is the subject matter (ie which experience did you discuss - or have you not talked about it here before?)

Really looking forward to the show.
 
Hoffmeister said:
Yeh, i am too
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If you want to hear David talk about the incident in question for this weeks show, listen to Jeff Ritzmanns first podcast with David @ thesecondeclipse.com

I dont think it will spoil the show for you as David will have his friend on this week which will only strength his story IMO. If you want to listen for inconsistencies in the story too you could do that.

(Not that I think David is not being truthful, but I know hoff is probably more of a skeptic than most. Right Hoff?)
 
GSB said:
Siani, can I ask, how did the Paracast go? What is the subject matter (ie which experience did you discuss - or have you not talked about it here before?)

Really looking forward to the show.
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Hoffmeister said:
Yeh, i am too
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Thanks, guys. I was very nervous, as I've never done anything like this before. Don't believe a word Paola says - Gene and David are definitely gentlemen, and a lot of fun, too. They did an excellent job of helping me to relax and stay focused. I just hope I made sense :o.

As to what was discussed - listen to the show! ;)
 
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