video confession

[SLVA]

I'm posting this again here because I really am interested to hear what you make of this 'former CIA whistle blower' interview?

I've listened to the shows that have covered The Citizens Hearing on Disclosure, and in the main they have focused on Greer and his alien or as Biedny put it on DMR the 'bacon sandwich without the bread' LOL

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I appreciate that the general consensus is that when these events have been tried before at The National Press Club the feeling is that by Bassett's inability to weed out extremists from the debate - the pool is polluted. I'm familiar with the names that make us roll eyes - Moulton-Howe, Greer etc, but get the feeling that Dolan is more respected. Either way...

Do we take this old man with a whispery voice and a short time left, seriously? Is it a case of it's never too late for some to want their Imbrogno fifteen minutes regardless of the circumstances? Unfortunately it's all anecdotal and anonymous testimony and Dolan certainly asks some leading questions and doesn't challenge much here.

On the other hand... do you think this could be real 'disclosure'?

 

[mike]

I dont know, but something about his smile sets my alarms ringing.
He may just be a naturally happy guy on his death bed, it may be meds, but he seems to have a cheeky grin through most of the interview.
Its the sort of expression i tend to associate with someone pulling a prank.

Now that may mean nothing, but i guess i would need a little more in the way of evidence before i could personally file this under possible smoking gun testimony

 

[SLVA]

thanks for the reply mike. I agree he does seem at ease spilling so much profound information like that, and he really sticks to the script, nothing new in there. I don't know what to make of it...

 

[nameless]

 

[SLVA]

Thanks Nameless, ah yes, the classic "tell" - where the eyes go when we're telling porkies? Someone should tell Mr. Dolan.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Thanks for the diagram. My wife thinks anytime someone breaks eye contact, they are fibbing- while I tell her there is more to it and highly unusual for someone to maintain constant eye contact while recalling memories.

 

[Goggs Mackay]

I tend to think that if you are that age and that sick, it is highly unlikely you could even be bothered to make up a whole story like that and traipse- with no small physical exertion -all the way to some hotel to sit in front of cameras and try to keep your story together and consistent under the questioning of someone extremely well versed in the topic of the lie etc.

I just don't buy the fifteen mins of fame explanation. I think at the least, this guy believe's what he is saying, leaving the possibility that parts are wrong etc but the thrust of it from his point of view, is true. There isn't an upside for this guy if he's lying, not in his state.

 

[Polterwurst]

Every time someone points a film camera at me, I find it hard to act natural and keep from grinning like crazy. So maybe he just isn't used to being filmed. Or if he is making a big joke, I wonder who it is on.

If there is anything to the schematic above (mostly I find that people look in all kinds of directions in one and the same sentence), he would have been remembering things, not making them up, at least in the second half of the vid, when I was watching for it.

And what he said about the "greys" looking kind of oriental, that reminds me of old desriptions that weren't overly alien at all (as the image is nowadays). I think it was Travis Walton who said they looked "chinese"(?).

 

[Randall]

Thanks for the diagram. My wife thinks anytime someone breaks eye contact, they are fibbing- while I tell her there is more to it and highly unusual for someone to maintain constant eye contact while recalling memories.

Agreed. Body language ( including facial expressions ) are mostly junk psychology and cannot be relied on as conclusive evidence. As you suggest, when people are searching memory banks and making an analysis of complex information, there are many different expressions that can happen, and it's not uncommon for people to look down or up or away while they concentrate, because eye contact is distracting. A person might also give off negative responses indicative of deception or guilt because they feel some guilt or shame for breaking their oath or trust, not because they are lying. I'm not saying there's nothing to body language, because we all have common expressions that reveal our emotions, and those might serve as clues for simple and clear cut questions and answers, but in the end, it's not the body language that we should be relying on, but the information given. We've already covered Mr Anonymous in other threads, and it seems pretty clear that there are some memory issues, possibly some confabulation going on.

 

[boomerang]

The first question here is whether this old gentleman is who and what he claims to be. Has he been vetted? Dunno. The best way to evaluate his story might be to quiz him on "trivial" details regarding how things were done at that time and place and compare them with known records, etc.

Interesting video, but in my gray box for now.

 

[Randall]

I'm posting this again here because I really am interested to hear what you make of this 'former CIA whistle blower' interview?

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