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What is Skinwalker Ranch?

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James Reese

Paranormal Novice
I listened to an episode of "The Paracast" where they discussed Skinwalker; Unfotunately I did not get to see the "Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura" episode on it, but what I have read or listened to I feel like nobody has answered one simple question:

WHAT....IS it?

I know the simple answer is "we don't know", but I'm talking about speculating: It can be an area that is a portal or have some kind of "energy"...but what IS it? What I'm talking about is the fact that it is reported the US Government has involvement there

...why?

The purpose...what is the purpose of it; surely it must have an "end game"; everything on this earth whether it realizes it or not has an end game and if the government has an interest in it, then it has to be "for a reason" beyond curiosity...it must serve a purpose (for them, not necessarily for the people they "serve")

Has anyone speculated on what that purpose is?
 
Its a good question, i think we all want to know what the end game is.
Most people here dont doubt something is happening, that its nature seems to be to tease then hide. It appears to want to be seen, but not understood......

My own view is we are being coached to parity, but what constitutes parity may be much much more than technological parity.

My personal hypothesis transcends biology and even linear time.

That is, what we consider normal reality is an minority subset of a more complicated universe.

I suspect to try and explain it to us in our current state of being, would be like a frog trying to explain to a tadpole what its like to hop on land, or a butterfly trying to explain flight to a caterpiller.
 
...by the way that quote would explain a great many smells in this apartment

and Mike a warning: I'm really new at all this so if I write something that sounds like I'm being a dick or a smart arse...I'm not doing it on purpose, my statement or my question may not have come across right. When you don't have a clue about things but have an opinion...well you screw the pooch sometimes.

Right, so bascially what you are saying is that we are living in some kind of universal "veil of ignorance" about what are own reality is? I can buy that but would love to know what your hypothesis has for a conclusion just simply out of curiosity.

If we are tadpoles and they are frogs...then why involve the tadpole in any part of the process? i.e. if "we" as human beings are involved then that alone suggests that whatever it is, we can comprehend at least in part. I know I at least could and I know you could...yes...billy bob in booger holler arkansas (pop 7 if you count the dog...seriously) may not but as a whole, "we" as human's probably could...the government being involved proves that as far as I'm concerned.
 
To answer that i'll start with a quote

"I think it very likely -in fact inevitable-that biological intelligence is only a transitory phenomenon, a fleeting phase in the evolution of intelligence in the universe."​
Paul Davies -acclaimed physicist, cosmologist, and astrobiologist at Arizona State University."​

I think Davies has hit the nail on the head, Our own research is trending in this direction
Just when will this ultimate life-affirming feat be possible? In Kurzweil's estimation, we will be able to upload the human brain to a computer, capturing "a person's entire personality, memory, skills and history", by the end of the 2030s; humans and non-biological machines will then merge so effectively that the differences between them will no longer matter
By 2040 you will be able to upload your brain... - Science - News - The Independent

My hypothesis is as per Davies prediction that sentience inevitably becomes post biological, space travel for example becomes a lot easier for a post biological intellect than it is for a biological one with all its needs and frailtys.

Thus one might conclude that the biological paradigm we see as the norm here, is just a minority subset of the greater sentient population of the galaxy and beyond.

That the earth is the equivilent of a kindergarten in the larger picture, that we are immature by sheer dint of our primative biological status, a status thats known to be just the first phase in the bigger picture.

Thats one hypothesis

The other i entertain is the SI or synthetic intellect hypothesis.
That when you consider the vastness that is time and space SI is better suited to the environment, biological sentience is shortlived.
How would an SI breed ?
Simply making a copy of itself wont do, it would be like talking to yourself in a mirror.

But you could recreate the circumstances that lead to your creation.
Find a suitable biosphere, seed it with life and then tweak and tease a promising species into becoming technological, in time it will (perhaps with some coaching) create its own brand of SI, a unique SI flavoured by the species and culture that built it.
We may not be the product here, just the factory workers.

But by and large my personal view trends towards a blend of these scenarios.
The universe is full of common elements, but our conciousness, our personal experience sets are truly unique. No two are ever the same. Even identical twins at the end of their biological spans will have unique experience sets/memorys.

Just as the video i posted suggests, i think any advanced society becomes a blend of digitised and non digitised people, that the greater population of sentience must then become post biological, with biologicals like us being a minority.(children in a world populated by post biological adults)
I like that comparison, because we let children mature at their own pace, we know they will inevitably become adults. we give them the resources they need to do so, but we dont force a five year old to drive a truck. They will get to where they need to be in their own time. we give them help but dont force the issue

Streiber talks about the association in his experience between the vistors and the dead (a term i suspect will become redefined eventually)
He talks about being told "we recycle souls" , Perhaps by souls they meant Kurzweils description a person's entire personality, memory, skills and history

The collins elite subscribe to a version of this idea albit with a sinister pov

Basically speaking, Final Events is a study of a think-tank group comprised of personnel from within the U.S. Government, military and intelligence community that has existed in stealth for a surprisingly long time. The group believes that while the UFO issue is a very real one, they do not believe it has anything to do with literal extraterrestrials.
Rather, the group – which calls itself the Collins Elite – concludes that the “aliens” are, in reality, literal demonic entities that are trying to seduce us with a false lure of supposed alien technology, and to – quite literally – steal and farm our souls. The group claim to have discovered evidence that these demonic entities – that seem to utilize a weird combination of advanced technology and archaic rite and ritual – derive a form of “energy sustenance” from the human soul or life force.
In other words, they don’t want to land on the White House lawn and help us, nor do they want to destroy us. Rather, they want to maintain the herd, and upon our physical deaths, extract the human life-force as sustenance.

I cant see human lifeforce as a source of sustinance myself, but i can see why a sentient species/s with this technology might extend that kindness to us, while at the same time coaching us down the path to being able to do so for ourselves (teach a man to fish)

Even religion seems to posit a primative version of the scenario.

That when you die, you will be given a "new" (cloned biovessel?) body with which to reside in the heavens for eternity.

Kurzweil et al my end up providing us with a technological mechanism to do just that.

So lets just play with this idea for a moment.
If this were the greater reality, then earth becomes a biological conciousness hatchery serving a far far larger post biological society with fresh members, without which it would surely stagnate.

It may make sense to manage that hatchery, without directly messing with it too much.

And then we throw time travel into this ....... but thats another story


 
You know, I never thought about that but you have brought up something that I had forgotten about; I wrote a paper in my undergrad studies in New Zealand on the transfer of human conciousness into a computer and the connotations of that in terms of either transference (would that be the right term?) to a different "vehicle" than a human body (or simply remain in a program) or whether that is the first step in the evolution of human's into say, "energy" and after reading (and I will have to re-read as you've given me a lot to digest) your post it makes clear sense.

It also increases the plausibility of travel by other beings exponentially across galaxies and in some ways, it ties into my first post about Greys being drones for a higher intelligence.

THANK YOU for taking the time to post so much and help me with my education into this world! I really appreciate it!
 
sigh...and apologies: "across galaxies"...I'm either thinking of Star Wars or I'm tired...its tired.

Across our galaxy I meant...
 
Your welcome

You can see reading the collins elite stuff how such a reality might come as a very bad shock to some humans.

If, the species visting us have populations that are 99% uploaded, and 1% native bioform, which is the ratio you would expect eventually given this technology, Humans not yet at this stage in our evolution would in many cases freak out.
Imagine disclosing that, yes "aliens" are here and when you die they extract "you" and upload it into a cloned bioform (grey?)
Many people would go crazy, not even suicide is an escape..... just the opposite lol

It makes sense to let the kurzweils of this world bring us the technology and get used to the concept on our own terms first.
Thats the parity i suspect our culture needs to attain before we can make contact.

The time travel aspect is a nice twist, its reported abductees get taken as children but that the abductions taper off as the person gets older.

It may be this post biological population of humans (using for now, ET technology) are harvesting the genes needed while the native bioform is still young and genetically clean.

Its possible one of the greys harvesting a 5 year olds genes, is that very same person , coming back down time to gather the material needed for a new optimised clone body.

The grey seems to be optimised for life in the heavens ie a non terrestrial artificial environment. adding time travel to this hypothesis allows you to come back to your native bioform and extract the DNA you might need to create cloned biovessels in perpetuity, optimising the new biovessel for your offplanet existance

Add a society living outside of linear time to this story, and you can see how our own realitys filters make getting your head around the big picture difficult (but not i hope impossible)
 
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