Why are Aliens Racially Profiling?

[magican2009]

When was the last time you read about or saw on television a black Contactee or Abductee?

With the sole exception of Barney Hill, I know of zero examples. In fact, whenever I see or read about either a Contactee or Abductee, they invariably are white.

Further, the context is generally racially skewed as well. Consider the stories of abduction as a whole. They happen on farms, quiet country roads, sometimes in uptown city apartments, etc.

Really? What about urban abductions? Not a mention of any blacks or most other minorites in unpleasant environments.

Just a thought. I felt compelled to mention this because once it jumped out at me it was clearly the 800 pound elephant in the room.

An 800 pound white elephant, with a good job and nice family.

 

[Kevin Daly]

When was the last time you read about or saw on television a black Contactee or Abductee?

With the sole exception of Barney Hill, I know of zero examples. In fact, whenever I see or read about either a Contactee or Abductee, they invariably are white.

Further, the context is generally racially skewed as well. Consider the stories of abduction as a whole. They happen on farms, quiet country roads, sometimes in uptown city apartments, etc.

Really? What about urban abductions? Not a mention of any blacks or most other minorites in unpleasant environments.

Just a thought. I felt compelled to mention this because once it jumped out at me it was clearly the 800 pound elephant in the room.

An 800 pound white elephant, with a good job and nice family.

One (admittedly unpopular) possibility is that in the majority of cases abductions are a sociological phenomenon, and therefore follow patterns of cultural diffusion rather than reflecting an objectively real alien (or other) agenda.
I know people are going to hate me for saying that, but the day's not complete if I haven't pissed anybody off...

 

[jpw.in.wi]

... it jumped out at me it was clearly the 800 pound elephant in the room.

An 800 pound white elephant, with a good job and nice family.

When it comes to exporting the modern American lean towards Political Correctness, let's draw the line at the heavens, please!!!

EBEs are never going to land on the White House lawn if they think they'll be swiftly confronted by activists spray painting swastikas on their ships, demanding they undergo "anti-bias training," and demonstrating for new affirmative action policies in their abduction activities.

Also, when/if they do land, let's just avoid any discussions with them of politics or religion. And while we're at it, don't ask for their opinions of the war in Iraq until we're very secure in our new friendship with them. I'd hate to see the event of the millennium screwed up over those kinds of unproductive, emotional squabbles.

I think we would do well to keep these types far out of sight and roped off in their little demonstration zones ...

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[Brian Now]

It's a very valid question. If abductions or visitations are real (or anything other than hallucinations or lies) then it is very pertinent to look into why they would happen to one group, or one geographic area as opposed to another. And maybe it's just a discrepancy in reporting rather than occurrence.

And if abductions are all bunk, then it's also worth investigating why one group would report them more than another group...though in that case it would be better researched by academics than by paranormal investigators.

 

[dhatz]

When was the last time you read about or saw on television a black Contactee or Abductee?

With the sole exception of Barney Hill, I know of zero examples. In fact, whenever I see or read about either a Contactee or Abductee, they invariably are white.

I looked very briefly in the subject of "abductions" a couple of years ago, yet I can recall several black claimed "abductees" other than Barney Hill.

One case by Budd Hopkins was featured in TV series Unsolved Mysteries. It was an enlisted black man, who according to the presentation was apparently physically "missing" (he arrived on a Greyhound bus, phoned the military base, they sent a jeep to pick him up but he was nowhere to be found etc. Under hypnosis he told the story of being taken on board a UFO etc. He also claimed childhood experiences).

Even in the "Bullshit: Alien Abductions" episode of Penn & Teller there were a couple of black women selling their book and offering advice to "experiencers".

How many of them are credible / believable it's another matter ofcourse.

Perhaps you should raise this issue of black abductees with people who have actually looked into this subject...

 

[magican2009]

In response to jpw, I must add that Political Correctness drives me nuts. Have always found "people who are waiting around to be violated" a troublesome group.
My point was a simple one. Abductees and Contactees are white, with rare exception. Unlike the UFO phenomenon in general, which is clearly worldwide and generally portrayed as such, when the issue of abduction is discussed, we go from an international venue right back to the farms, country roads, camping trips and fishing weekends.
That's odd.

 

[Schuyler]

In response to jpw, I must add that Political Correctness drives me nuts. Have always found "people who are waiting around to be violated" a troublesome group.

No kidding! I agree completely!

My point was a simple one. Abductees and Contactees are white, with rare exception. Unlike the UFO phenomenon in general, which is clearly worldwide and generally portrayed as such, when the issue of abduction is discussed, we go from an international venue right back to the farms, country roads, camping trips and fishing weekends. That's odd.

Umm, but that may not be correct, as dhatz points out with several examples. It's an impression that may not be backed by the statistics. We need a statistical analysis before assuming the question is true. I don't know one that has already been done, though I do remember people claiming 'millions' have been abducted, which I also consider very questionable. So not only do you have a lot of data to collect, you also have questionable claims to be sorted through.

It's an interesing hypothesis which, if true, would lead to some interesting cross-cultural research. But you don't want to jump to conclusions here without the data to back up an impression.

 

[Tommy Allison]

I had a friend named Richard. He was my next door neighbor. He was Black, and he claimed he was an abductee. Later on he went crazy, and his wife divorced him. Sadly enough I think he passed on.

He was a good guy, and probably what bothered him the most about his experiences was that he could never talk to anyone about them. I myself thought it was pretty peculiar that he would confide in me his experiences.

I think that the African American community as a whole frowns on the discussion of things that are bizarre in that way. Ghosts are fine, spirits, that sort of thing, but aliens? I think that they look on that as being WAY out there.

 

[Gen]

Forgive me, but when your great-great-grandparents were bought and sold and bred as if they were cattle, and people with your skin color are still viewed by many -- whether consciously or subconsciously -- as subhuman, the issue of your personal sovereignty is a slightly touchier one.

So maybe minorities just report it less. Perhaps they think that the general public is less likely to believe them, or care.

If Whitley Strieber had been born without a penis (I can't believe I just started a sentence with that phrase...What has the Internet done to me?) and/or with dark skin, Communion would not have received even a fraction of the attention it got.

Strieber's story was viewed as credible -- or, at least, worth listening to -- in part because a white man wrote it. These are subconscious cultural biases and they are everywhere.

I understand people's impatience with the silly aspect of political correctness, but (as a teenager I know likes to type it) plzzzzzzzz.

 

[Xylo]

There was a UFO Hunters that featured a black sailor who had claims of abduction/UFO experience.

 

[BrandonD]

When was the last time you read about or saw on television a black Contactee or Abductee?

With the sole exception of Barney Hill, I know of zero examples. In fact, whenever I see or read about either a Contactee or Abductee, they invariably are white.

This "white phenomenon" does not necessarily send off any red flags.

Consider the fact that nearly 100% of the people involved in the ufo field (believers and skeptics) are white men. What does that particular piece of information tell you?

This phenomenon is an unknown. One possibility is that culturally, whites are more inclined to interpret this particular unknown as ufo/alien related, and speak about it as such.

Long ago I read an interesting article that relates to this subject. It talked about how, judging only from reports, one could conclude that Saudi Arabians do not commit domestic violence. The reports of such occurrences are far fewer than in America.

Now a sensible person would know that the lack of reports is based upon cultural differences, and not a lack of violence. However, this example illustrated how cultural differences determine what information might be known or unknown about a particular group of people.

Culturally, the whole ufo/alien subject is generally considered a "nerdy white" thing.

 

[skunkape]

I've spoken with a few black folks who have had experiences. One was visited by three blonde haired white people in blue leotards. Maybe they just don't talk about it as much. You might also want to listen to the Posey Gilbert interview on 'Culture of Contact.'

 

[methshin]

They're obviously bigots. That, or its just another example of "white mans news" keeping down the black man.

"we didn't land on Roswell, Roswell landed on us"

 

[magican2009]

Gen, FYI... I'm white. Really white. I'm simply making an observation here bro; surely you must find it odd that every documentary featuring abductees and contactees show only white folks?

 

[Gen]

Gen, FYI... I'm white. Really white. I'm simply making an observation here bro; surely you must find it odd that every documentary featuring abductees and contactees show only white folks?

I don't find it odd, mainly because of the reasons I listed.

I didn't think you were being offensive by posting this topic -- I'm sorry if you did get that impression. I am white too, but racism is a big issue for me and I can get impassioned about it pretty easily.

I am part of a mixed family, so I have seen racism up close, affecting my family members. Racism in this country goes much, much deeper than most white people think. I wish that more people would take the time to understand, but most people have their own problems. That's just the way people are.

 

[magican2009]

Rock on. You, like everyone else who took the time to respond, are thoughtful and kind.

I like this place.

Still and all, it appears that we are subject to the wonderful and inconspicuous line: "No one knows who first studied the properties of water, but we know it wasn't a fish."

Scot

 

[paraschtick]

Just want to throw my oar in and see where it will float.

I think it would be interesting to make a list of contactee/abductee/experiencers ... and see what their ethnic make up is/was.

This could be interesting and could point to a few things:

(1) Whether or not the "aliens" are interested in playing around with us genetically, and who they are most interested in.
(2) If the abduction scenario is actually a government psy-op, it would let us learn which part of the population is most likely to be "abducted"
... ...

Also ... looking at Barney and Betty Hill ... a black man and a white woman ... also civil rights activists ... not so far from the end of WW2 ... Nazis still about and not totally defeated (and/or maybe paperclipped to the US)... and Barney Hill commenting on how the abductors looked like ... Nazis (!!) ... hmmmmm ...

 

[TerraX]

Interesting thread with many angles to investigate. I guess that in some countries and societies the UFO phenomenon has a harder time reaching to the surface and the media. I'm not so sure that the UFO phenomenon is restricted to western (white) cultures. Brazil (multi-culture) has had many, often bizarre reports. Mentioned before in this thread is the sighting of a UFO (and occupants) in Zimbabwe. The Teheran incident where fighter pilots encountered a UFO is also a high profile case.
I think there's a lot to be discovered here cultural and sociological wise. The UFO phenomenon also says a lot about ourselves as humans and how we deal with it. Societies, countries are not exempt from that.

 

[Wendy2009]

I am "Black" and I am an abductee. I don't know why one seldom sees any Black people discussing the UFO/ET problem. Maybe it is because most Black people have "enough on their plate" as it is, without getting into discussions of the paranormal.
However, I didn't CHOOSE the deal with ETs. They chose me and my family, but I am the ONLY ONE in my family who will admit it. The GOVERNMENT is heavily involved with my situation, too. (The GOOD part of the Government, that is.) I am still trying to figure out where this will end up. I am HOPING for full disclosure.

 

[skunkape]

I am still trying to figure out where this will end up. I am HOPING for full disclosure.

Don't hold your breath on that one.