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I'm going to get quite formal here and I hope you bear with me.

Buried within your arguments and challenge to me is a tautology predicated by an if.

An example of a tautology is: All black sheep are black.

An example of a tautology predicated by an if: If all sheep were black then every sheep you saw would be a black one.

The second example while true cannot be used as an argument that all sheep are black. In reality all sheep are not black.

You are saying that if some aspect of reality were altered, then reality itself would be altered. I say, well no shit.

You are saying that if I saw what you saw my opinion would be different. I say, ok sure.

But the reality is I have not seen what you have seen, so I cannot put myself in your position. Before your sighting you were in my postion. What were your thoughts then? Were they perhaps similar to the thoughts I have now?

Do you understand what I am trying to say?

<blockquote data-quote="stphrz" data-source="post: 97630" data-attributes="member: 1921">I&#039;m going to get quite formal here and I hope you bear with me.&nbsp;Buried within your arguments and challenge to me is a tautology predicated by an if.&nbsp;An example of a tautology is: All black sheep are black.&nbsp;An example of a tautology predicated by an if: If all sheep were black then every sheep you saw would be a black one.&nbsp;The second example while true cannot be used as an argument that all sheep are black. In reality all sheep are not black.&nbsp;You are saying that if some aspect of reality were altered, then reality itself would be altered. I say, well no shit.&nbsp;You are saying that if I saw what you saw my opinion would be different. I say, ok sure.&nbsp;But the reality is I have not seen what you have seen, so I cannot put myself in your position. Before your sighting you were in my postion. What were your thoughts then? Were they perhaps similar to the thoughts I have now?&nbsp;Do you understand what I am trying to say?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="stphrz, post: 97630, member: 1921"] I'm going to get quite formal here and I hope you bear with me. Buried within your arguments and challenge to me is a tautology predicated by an if. An example of a tautology is: All black sheep are black. An example of a tautology predicated by an if: If all sheep were black then every sheep you saw would be a black one. The second example while true cannot be used as an argument that all sheep are black. In reality all sheep are not black. You are saying that if some aspect of reality were altered, then reality itself would be altered. I say, well no shit. You are saying that if I saw what you saw my opinion would be different. I say, ok sure. But the reality is I have not seen what you have seen, so I cannot put myself in your position. Before your sighting you were in my postion. What were your thoughts then? Were they perhaps similar to the thoughts I have now? Do you understand what I am trying to say? [/QUOTE]

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