Why haven't we heard about...

[Ian]

..the conclusions from the following reports from the past year or so - namely:

1) Strange noises heard "all over the world" from about January 2011.

2) Mysterious boxes "washed up" on Oregon beaches earlier in 2012.

3) The New York "monster" washed up and reported in July 2012.

(Perhaps now someone can...)

We are all accustomed to the conventional, mainstream media reporting this kind of stuff and then never following it up. But surely the Alternative Media has a duty to take these stories more seriously, and where necessary expose hoaxes, innovative viral advertising campaigns or confirmed misidentifications?

More importantly, is there a way the Alternative Media could give higher exposure to the rare incidents the 'experts' can't explain?

Ian

 

[Randall]

Linda Moulton Howe at Earthfiles.com Headline News tends to report on this stuff, but I think she charges a rate to access all the information. Some people say that it's not fair for her to charge, but she doesn't have the resources of big media to go out and investigate, so really, I don't have a problem with it because she tends to do good reporting when she does go out.

 

[Muadib]

I remember reading an article that showed the mysterious box thing to be a hoax, I'm sure if you do some Google searching you can find it. As far as the strange noises thing goes, I'm pretty sure it's still happening, at least I remember reading an article about a recent strange noise happening so I doubt anyone has reached any firm conclusions about it yet. From what I've read about the so called Montauk Monster it was identified by a few different experts as a raccoon that was water damaged and badly decomposed, at least that's what the Montauk Monster wiki page says:

Although the creature's body was never reported as recovered or physically examined, palaeozoologist Darren Naish studied the photograph and concluded from visible dentition and the front paws that the creature was a raccoon, with its odd appearance merely a byproduct of decomposition and water action removing most of the animal's hair and some of its flesh.[3]

Montauk Monster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some have disputed that it's a raccoon saying that the legs are too long in proportion to the body so I guess we really don't know for sure. I find it interesting that the Plum Island Animal Disease Center is nearby.

As for Linda Howe, she did some good work early on in her career but imo she likes to latch on to outlandish theories and seems to be rather stubborn when it comes to accepting the fact that some things she's reported on have been debunked rather thoroughly or shown to be outright hoaxes like the whole drone thing that went down a couple years ago or some of the more ridiculous abduction cases she's been involved in. See her entry at ufowatchdog here: Linda Moulton Howe She seems to be willing to extrapolate alien involvement in just about anything based on very little or no real evidence. That's just my opinion on her. I certainly wouldn't put down hard earned cash to be a member of her site when you can get the same information for free elsewhere on the web.

 

[Wade]

not only that but it seems like whenever I've listened to her on c2c she had this habit of asking leading questions and implanting her desired answer to her interviewee

 

[Randall]

I've also heard LMH debunk stuff too. Generally speaking she does a good job ( Notice I didn't say "top notch" ), but she has won awards, and as an independent reporter I respect the efforts she's made. I also see her "implanting her desire" not as something nefarious, but as legitimate questions along the lines of inquiry I'm interested in hearing about. What's wrong with that? For example, she might ask the question of whether or not the interviewee thinks the topic might be related to some issue, but unlike Noory who seems to simply accept whatever he's told, she doesn't automatically agree. Instead she tends to report that "So there you go, so and so believes that whatever is associated with whatever because of whatever." and for the most part leaves us to draw our own conclusions. At least that's always been my experience listening.

 

[Ian]

Thanks for the replies. Yes, I realised early on the boxes thing was a hoax, the 'strange noises' too, possibly leading to some film or TV series, but reporting of it seemed to fizzle out.

LMH did interview someone 'sensible' (an astrophysicist, or similar) about the noises who kept to his guns and insisted there was no known mechanism from the northern lights, solar flares or any other atmospheric/ionospheric phenomena that could make any noises. He made it clear that in his opinion there was probably some other (rational) explanation. My money is on a co-ordinated hoax where the momentum gets the wilfully gullible whipped up to assume any normal distant train/plane/industrial sounds are 'The Noise'.

OK about the raccoon. Just seems odd that a common animal, even in a state of decomposition, could give rise to such a high-profile mystery.

LMH gave an interview recently (Binall of America?) where she explained in detail the 'hidden pyramid' underground in Alaska and all the indisputable evidence was on her website. What she didn't say was that it is beyond the pay wall. Well I'm not THAT keen to read what is probably just more fabricated bollocks than I can read elsewhere for free!

BTW, when WAS her award, and for what? It can't have been very recent...

Ian

 

[Muadib]

BTW, when WAS her award, and for what? It can't have been very recent...

Ian

As far as I know she hasn't won anything recently, most of the stuff is from her work on environmental subjects not her work on the paranormal or UFO's, here's a list of her awards from her Wiki page:

Film Awards:

• Chicago Film Festival Golden Plaque, Documentary, A Radioactive Water.
• Denver Int'l. Film Festival, First Place, Documentary, Borrowed Faces.
• National Emmy Award Finalist, Community Service, Documentaries Poison in the Wind and A Sun Kissed Poison.
• Regional Emmy, Writing Achievement, Fire in the Water.
• Regional Emmy for Directing Achievement, A Radioactive Water.
• Regional Emmy for Sound Effects and Editing, A Strange Harvest.
• Regional Emmy Finalist, Best Documentary, The Guilty Madonnas.
• George Foster Peabody Award (Howe contributing producer of science and medical programming) for station excellence to WCVB-TV, Boston, Massachusetts.
• Sigma Delta Chi Excellence In Journalism Award, A Radioactive Water.
• Award for Writing Excellence, Aviation & Space Writers Association, A Prairie Dawn.
• Florence Sabin Award for "outstanding contribution to public health in documentary films and programs," presented by Colorado Public Health Association.
• Ohio State Award, Natural and Physical Sciences, Fire in the Water.
• Ohio State Award, Performing Arts, Borrowed Faces.
• Cine Golden Eagle, "for excellence to represent the United States in international motion picture events abroad," Borrowed Faces.
• American Film Festival, Gold Ribbon Award, Borrowed Faces.
• Colorado Broadcasters Award, Best Documentary, Colorado On Trial.
• Colorado Broadcasters Award, Best Documentary, Fire in the Water.
• Outstanding Film Award, Association for Educational Communications and Technology, Information's Electronic Future.
• Creative Excellence Award, U.S. Industrial Film Festival, Information's Electronic Future.
• New York Film and TV Festival, Bronze Award, Information's Electronic Future.
• Citizens Participation Award from U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, for documentary films about air pollution and energy alternatives to fossil fuels.

 

[pong]

Multiple second-hand witnesses have been telling Linda Howe about an "underground pyramid" located west of Mt. McKinley in Alaska, as Ian mentioned. I would pay close attention to this story. Our planet is peppered with pyramids and it wouldn't surprise me if one exists in Alaska. If the military really is concealing a pyramid structure buried deep in Alaska, this could be the most significant story of our time. For those interested, extensive reporting of this story is on Linda's website and in the Coast-to-Coast and Dreamland audio archives.