Why is there a lack of coverage of man-made UFOs and defense contractors?

[cottonzway]

One of the things that is perplexing to me in the UFO field is the lack of coverage, research, and to some extent interest in what is likely a large % of these UFOs, planes/crafts that are man-made and under the control of various militaries around the world.

I just don’t see a lot of research in this field that covers what is “black projects” and how that correlates to a portion of the UFO phenomena for many years now. The sensational stories about either crafts coming from “somewhere else” seems to really over shadow getting some understanding on what we have on earth and how some of that can explain what we have seen in the skies.

My primary interest in the actual UFO area is “our own” stuff as I have been a huge fan of aerospace and aviation. My interest sure does extend beyond that, but I find what we have created that is even known about is rather amazing. What is unknown, but speculated on is even more amazing and when you throw in interesting speculation on where technology that some of our own crafts uses it makes the topic very interesting to say the least.

I just don’t see that a lot in this field. The only person who seemed to do a lot of that is Bill Sweetman, who is not at all a “UFO” guy. Why is this topic not covered as much as it should be? Why are there not more researches who look into what Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northup Grumman, Raytheon, SAIC, and others are doing in general/creating? Either from a “UFO” or just a general fascination of aviation and technology.

Even for people who enjoy the “fantastic” side of the UFO lure, don’t you think getting clearer answers narrows down a lot of sightings? To have people cover more aviation in the field that directly relates to the Unidentified Flying Objects makes sense on many levels, but I don’t see it talked about. Even to those who think we have man-made crafts based on technologies that were reverse engineered this should be a part of the topic that is talked about more frequently. If that is the case, who do you think has this technology? The “government” or very secretive, quasi-government aerospace defense contractors with unlimited budgets?

The lack of coverage of what flies in our skies that may be by our own and the companies that may hold technologies that people have this interest in is perplexing to me. Are there others who are covering this who I am not aware of? What is your take on this, Paracast forum members?

 

[Chuckleberryfinn]

You should check out "The Hunt For Zero Point," by Nick Cook.

 

[cottonzway]

Thank you, I will.

 

[Chuckleberryfinn]

Sure, dude. That book has exactly what you're looking for. Nick Cook is an excellent writer and does good research. He's looking into this from the world of mainstream aviation journalism. He writes for Jane's Defense Weekly.

 

[Gareth]

Thank you, I will.

Youre gonna dig it. And I think youre gonna find that there really is a lot of research going on in this area, but researchers are gonna hit just as many hard concrete walls as they do when they research purpoted non-human angles to things.

 

[cottonzway]

Youre gonna dig it. And I think youre gonna find that there really is a lot of research going on in this area, but researchers are gonna hit just as many hard concrete walls as they do when they research purpoted non-human angles to things.

Who else is doing the research in this area?

I just don't "get" why this is not a more important part of the subject. To be able to take a huge portion of the equation out seems really useful to getting answers.

Also, so many people think we have this technology and are using it. I'm on the fence with that one. To those who do for sure think that, who do you think has this technology? The "gubmint" or Raytheon/SAIC/ect.? There is ZERO research in this area of specific aerospace defense contractors who may have this technology IMO. I just have not seen it.

 

[Bixyboo]

Why are there not more researches who look into what Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northup Grumman, Raytheon, SAIC, and others are doing in general/creating? Either from a “UFO” or just a general fascination of aviation and technology?

Maybe they ARE looking into those Plants (and others you've not mentioned) and due to the amount of time to research such (not to mention find concrete answers or proof), haven't (or can't) share their findings, yet.

 

[dorkbot]

Who else is doing the research in this area?

There is Michael Schratt. I don't really know anything about him other than what he wrote in his own bio. He does seem pretty steeped in aircraft development info but his presentation ranged from soberly interesting to passing along a Clifford Stone story about retrieving anti-gravity pods from one of our crashed triangles. He did flash a photo of an interesting Air Material Command logo that cryptically hints at a 3rd delta-shaped companion to the B-2 and F-117.

Cook is certainly interesting. On one hand he has Jane's name attached but in my view of what he has presented on various ufo cases he seems pretty sloppy in terms of doing his homework. As an example, in one of his films he presents Lonnie Zamora's close encounter with a white, egg-shaped, landed craft by showing an animation of the Silverbug[pdf] design and describes the encounter such that if you knew nothing about the particulars you could very easily interpret it as being a likely military prototype, probably from desert-dwelling Paperclip Nazis. Seeing how he treated a case in which quite a bit is known makes me wonder how careful he is in researching some of the other stuff he presents. If I'm not mistaken, didn't Cook introduce Boyd Bushman to the world? I'm interested in what he has to say but there are some yellow "CAUTION" lights that blink above my mental image of Cook.

As to why there isn't more interest in researching this stuff I can see how there are some substantial roadblocks to doing so. If you are interested in what is happening at the Skunkworks you can ask their public relations desk or go camp out in the desert with binoculars. Anything more is probably considered spying. That leaves you with rumour. Bill Scott shows up on UFO Hunters but then again he worked for the same magazine as Klass so I'm guessing that if Aviation Week prints gossip then it has been signed off on by somebody who wants the info put into circulation. One aspect of this subject that I have wondered about is, if we do have the kind of stuff that people speculate about, is it not reasonable to think that competitive nations that are technically competent(China, Russia, etc.) would be actively working to "out" them, ala the U-2 overflights of the Cold War? Russia and China both have spy satellites and any kind of monitoring gear there is so you would think it would be a major score for them to catch us operating something that doesn't exist. China seems to particularly delight in catching us stepping on or over the line. Perhaps they don't publicly reveal such findings so as to gain leverage of some kind but it seems an interesting question.