World War Two UFO?

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

Very interesting article which begs the question how many more UFO incidents happened on the British Isles during WW2?

UFO files: Winston Churchill 'feared panic' over Second World War RAF incident - Telegraph

 

[Ted Roe]

If you review Dominic Weinsteins catalog of aviation UAP incidents the majority of those reported during the 1940s were military reports.. (just found the link is broken on the NARCAP site, here is a good one -http://www.ufocasebook.com/pdf/pilotsightings.pdf<cite> </cite>)
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena - Eighty Years of Pilot Sightings
Weinstein, Dominique 2001
If you plot the reports you see a bell curve rising steadily that seems to correspond with the fielding of a global military presence and centralized reporting... the numbers definitely increase in 1944-45 and continue upward from there. By the time the USAF was founded in Sept 1947 the curiosity was great enough to motivate the new General of the AF General Schulgen to offer a list of intelligence requirements on flying saucers that included some background as to why the request was being made... The Schulgen Memo
There really is no question that it was a security issue for all major players of WWII and postWWII so it is consistent with the UKMOD release and Churchill's concerns....
If I were in their shoes and the best technology we had consisted of tubes mounted on plywood with copper wire attached with screws I think I would have handled it the same way....

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

If you review Dominic Weinsteins catalog of aviation UAP incidents the majority of those reported during the 1940s were military reports.. (just found the link is broken on the NARCAP site, here is a good one -http://www.ufocasebook.com/pdf/pilotsightings.pdf<CITE> </CITE>)
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena - Eighty Years of Pilot Sightings
Weinstein, Dominique 2001
If you plot the reports you see a bell curve rising steadily that seems to correspond with the fielding of a global military presence and centralized reporting... the numbers definitely increase in 1944-45 and continue upward from there. By the time the USAF was founded in Sept 1947 the curiosity was great enough to motivate the new General of the AF General Schulgen to offer a list of intelligence requirements on flying saucers that included some background as to why the request was being made... The Schulgen Memo
There really is no question that it was a security issue for all major players of WWII and postWWII so it is consistent with the UKMOD release and Churchill's concerns....
If I were in their shoes and the best technology we had consisted of tubes mounted on plywood with copper wire attached with screws I think I would have handled it the same way....

Thanks Mr Ted Roe,
I will check it out and yes many incidents out there most likely with amazing stories . Furthermore, would that correlate with so called experiments with EMP devices and avionics developments?

Cheers,
BF

 

[Ted Roe]

With respect to emp, I have no idea. I would suppose it was a predictable consequence of atomic testing and blasts though I have never heard any discussion of it related to the use of the Bomb on Japan..If it was a concern or an intentional outcome of testing, again, I don't know.
Aviation development was moving right along, the Germans were working hard on the first jets and, so they say, on some unusual aircraft of disc design like the Vril and Honobu designs. No idea if there is any validity to German flying discs but I can't imagine that they were very effective or impressive. We got the brain trust from the Nazis and if that included scientists that could design working flying discs there doesn't seem to be much in the public domain. There was a definite interest in flying wings by several different countries. The Germans had some as did the US and, I think, the Russians. At one point that design was considered very promising....
However, with respect to UAP/UFO reports the discs and spheres were already well established as a phenomenon by the beginning of WWII. One of the earliest aviation reports was from the 1920s and involved a pilot who claimed to have been accosted by a "flying manhole cover" and there were even more reports in the 1930s...NICAP has a good list including some UK cases from 1939 through the end of the war at Pre-1947 Chronology; 1939-1946 with many of them being military reports of various kinds..

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

Hi Ted,
Thank you once again and will enjoy reading. What's your thoughts on UAP incidents are more reported during major conflicts than during peacetime? Secondly, the 'SCHULGEN MEMO' 28th Oct 47 is very intresting reading.

Cheers,
BF

 

[Ted Roe]

Happy to share.... with respect to more UAP reports during war or peacetime, I have no idea. There are a number of books out and pending with respect to observations in war zones.... Dr. Haines wrote one on incidents during the Korean war and I think one is in the works about UAP during Viet Nam though the author's name escapes me at the moment. I think that it is more likely that there is a more or less steady rate of UAP observations. I think the Larry Hatch UFO map is a pretty good argument for the idea that UAP are seen most anywhere there are people to see them at some time or other. Almost every town has a story, often more than one and there are plenty of examples of rural observations as well...
That having been said there are hot spots were UAP of various types appear. I have been going to a site in the Southern US to observe UAP that manifest there... Massimo Teodorani did a preliminary report on the site when he was there. I met Erling Strand from Hessdalen there a few years ago and he felt that it was like Hessdalen on steroids... I think the point is that there are probably several sources of UAP observations. Some probably have a natural source while others are not so clear cut. So people are seeing several different things and that raises the potential that anyone might see at least one variety of UAP regardless of war or peace...