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Shocking article in Sweden angers Israel


An article by a Swedish newspaper suggesting that Israeli troops kidnap and kill Palestinians to steal their body organs has triggered the ire of Israeli officials.

The article published in Sweden's largest circulation daily Aftonbladet on Monday claimed Israeli soldiers abduct young Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza Strip and return their bodies to their families after removing their organs.

The shocking report was revealed following the arrest of a New York rabbi accused of trafficking in human organs.

The article,They plunder the organs of our sons, nonetheless, was heavily criticized by Israeli media as well as officials who accused its writer, Donald Bostrom, of being "anti-semite."

Bostrom, however, says he has based the story on testimony from Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza and has denied accusations that he was motivated by anti-Semitism.

In the article, he mentions an incident in which a Palestinian was shot and killed by Israeli soldiers apparently for hurling stones at their vehicle in the northern West Bank city of Nablus.

The Palestinian, who was shot in his chest, stomach and both legs, was moved to an unknown location while being in critical condition. Five days later, his body was returned to his family with a visible scar from his neck to stomach.

Autopsy revealed that some of his organs were removed.

Bostrom believes a shortage of organs for transplant in Israel is the real cause behind the violent crime and mentions a 1992 government campaign to recruit new donors.

''At the same time that this organ campaign was going on, young Palestinian men were disappearing and being delivered back to their villages five days later at night, dead and cut open,'' he writes.

Responding to the shocking report, an Israeli military spokesman denied the charges and said Palestinians killed by Israeli forces were routinely subjected to autopsies.

The Israeli Foreign Ministry has also condemned the report, saying ''This piece is so blatantly racist and can induce to hate crimes in such a way that we think authorities need to take care of the matter.''

The ministry is also reportedly considering summoning the Swedish ambassador to protest against his government policies as well as the article.

The Israeli Embassy in Stockholm has also sent a strong diplomatic protest to the Swedish government.

Bostrom said another Swedish newspaper, Dagens Nyheter, refused to publish his piece "with no explanation" while Aftonbladet, a popular newspaper in Sweden, published the article without making any editorial changes. :eek:
 
Oh, yeah? Well I heard Swedes make falukorv out of the elderly when their socialist medical system doesn't want to pay for them anymore.
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skunkape said:
Oh, yeah? Well I heard Swedes make falukorv out of the elderly when their socialist medical system doesn't want to pay for them anymore.
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Falukorv is people!!!! Falukorv is people!!!!
 
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cottonzway said:
Zionist conspiracy IMO.
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After the Palestinian massacre last December and January, and Ahmadinejad's speech at the world conference in Geneva in April 20th, I looked into "zionism". After a while "zionism" seems like a U.S. patsy. Involved with conspiring with the U.S. but also used as a cover for the U.S. and it's continued crimes around the world. Most things I have read point to it being the other way around. What do you think? BTW, I'm not asking you to choose one point of view over the other, I would like your opinion.
 
truthpandemic said:
After the Palestinian massacre last December and January, and Ahmadinejad's speech at the world conference in Geneva in April 20th, I looked into "zionism". After a while "zionism" seems like a U.S. patsy. Involved with conspiring with the U.S. but also used as a cover for the U.S. and it's continued crimes around the world. Most things I have read point to it being the other way around. What do you think? BTW, I'm not asking you to choose one point of view over the other, I would like your opinion.
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I've made a vow to myself not to take part in discussions where the topic contains both the words Israel and Palestine.

I'm not touching that issue with a 21 1/2" foot pole.
 
methshin said:
Because I feel that I don't know enough about such a huge piece of history to make smart statements for or against either side.
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And in the midst of very heated debates of this kind, people throw names around far too easily, as well. But you'd better believe that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is an important topic to be educated on. Don't flee from controversy.

A website I've found to be very helpful, rational, and educational in understanding one perspective on the topic is the homepage of Dr. Normal Finkelstein.

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I'll be cautious with my opinion on this delicate subject, but I do think it is fair to point out that it is a normal mammalian instinct to hit back when one is cornered. Sometimes in a 2 way battle it is possible that both sides may be righteous in some way, and wrong in some way.
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jpw.in.wi said:
And in the midst of very heated debates of this kind, people throw names around far too easily, as well. But you'd better believe that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is an important topic to be educated on. Don't flee from controversy.

A website I've found to be very helpful, rational, and educational in understanding one perspective on the topic is the homepage of Dr. Normal Finkelstein.

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I'm certainly not ignorant to the issue at hand or its history. I just don't feel right debating for one side or another. All I can say is that there needs to be some sort of resolution to all of this violence.
 
skunkape said:
I'll be cautious with my opinion on this delicate subject, but I do think it is fair to point out that it is a normal mammalian instinct to hit back when one is cornered. Sometimes in a 2 way battle it is possible that both sides may be righteous in some way, and wrong in some way.
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One of the founders of Israel has a quote. I don't know it exactly, but it goes something like this. Jews were persecuted in Europe for centuries, culminating in the atrocity of the Nazis, and the Jews returned to Israel, which was not a Jewish state before 1948. But the muslims who lived there didn't do any of these things to the Jews. In the quote this guy was kind of predicting that there would be trouble, and that people do not forget things like being displaced from what they considers to be their homeland.

In a book called the Holocaust Industry, the author, a Jew himself whose parents were holocaust survivors, equates the founding of Israel as a Jewish state was as unprecidented as the holocaust was, because politically that sort of thing had never happened like it did. The displacement of muslims to Palestine, some of them still in posession of the keys to their houses that they will never see again, the subsequent reaction of the terrorist organisation Hamas against Israel, well, how would you feel?

And, if the holocaust was brought up as an argument that the Jews deserve to live in Israel and have the right to, surely you would think "that had nothing to do with me".

Being from Ireland, and thinking of all the trouble that was up the north, how Catholics were discrimated against in all areas of life (from jobs to politics to housing) and the segregation that happened, and the troubles that erupted in the 70s and ended (or quietened down) only recently, and how during a peaceful march, a civil rights demonstration (inspired by Martin Luthor King, because Catholics in Northern Ireland actually could relate to the discrimination against African Americans at that time), 7 people were killed by English soldiers, and how a terrorist organisation, the IRA - before that a dying organisation with few members before the deaths (most Catholics believed at that time that the peaceful result that was achieved in America could be achieved up there) - could grow to such huge numbers ... well, violence begets violence.

I know that there are many sides to any story, but being Irish, from the South but yet growing up with news of yet another bombing here, or retribution killing here, well, I can sympathise much more with the Palestinians than do the Israelis.
 
truthpandemic said:
After the Palestinian massacre last December and January, and Ahmadinejad's speech at the world conference in Geneva in April 20th, I looked into "zionism". After a while "zionism" seems like a U.S. patsy. Involved with conspiring with the U.S. but also used as a cover for the U.S. and it's continued crimes around the world. Most things I have read point to it being the other way around. What do you think? BTW, I'm not asking you to choose one point of view over the other, I would like your opinion.
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My comment to be honest was a joke on the various "Zionist/Jewish" conspiracies that are out there.

I'll weigh in as best as I can though.

I look at hardcore Zionism no different then any other fundemental outlook. It's a zealot view of the world and irrational IMO. It's also dangerous for such a powerful country as Israel to have such a strong group of people with this mindset, say the Likud party that has the same exact outlook at the American Neo-Conservative branch of the Republican party. The Likud party members in America were/are often dual citizens in the Bush admin. That is an outrageous conflict of interest IMO.

It's often overlooked by the flatout racist crowd who just hate "Jews" because they are ignorant bigots. It makes the topic difficult to talk about to be honest. Groups like AIPAC and JINSA had huge amounts of pull in the previous admin. Their irrational idea on foreign policy was a danger to all life on earth IMO. I honestly feel we came close, circa 2006, to an actual pre-emptive stike on Iran that would have lead us into WW III due to this influnce from the Likud party in Israel and the US. That is scary.

Isreal has the right to defend itself as it sees fit. I am just not willing to fight their wars if they are to ever attack Iran and Syria, like they have been pandering to do for several years now. That concept that comes from the hawkish Likud is dangerous to Israel in general. That idea on foreign policy is not the majority over there, many people just want peace and to live a normal life. There are irrational megalomaniacs that threaten their own country IMO and I wish for those people to not be in power. There is a vast difference between being vigilant and being a danger to your own people and land. The hardcore right, Zionist Likud are dangerous to Isreal and everyone else IMO.
 
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