William Strathmann
Paranormal Adept
One of the points made during the show was the pressing need to produce a useful "profile" on the person reporting the anomalous incident. Moreover, I think several of the comments here, including those above by Chuckleberryfinn, well-illustrate that pressing need.
C.B.Finn has been, and evidently is still going through some impressive experiences, whatever their ultimate origin. Will such striking synchronicities, and strongly reinforced impressions about demonic interaction, and communication with "higher beings" perhaps lead to something like a CE experience? Even if not in Finn's case, what about for many other people reporting UFO or CE events? I think it's possible, and perhaps likely.
I throw out the following thoughts to cuss and dis-cuss.
IMHO a UFO / anomalous experience reporting agency should focus, first of all on details of the event being reported: objects, lights, shapes, distances, times, other witnesses, effects, traces, humanoids, etc, etc. Essentially the standard modern report.
Perhaps, if possible, several days to a week later, the person reporting should again file the report, from zero, to see if inconsistencies with the first report appear, or if more details have been remembered, or forgotten.
Finally, perhaps two or three weeks after that second review of the case, the reporting person should be gingerly questioned as to worldview, spiritual views, theological views, previous knowledge about science, about UFOs, about paranormal, occult, etc., previous UFO sightings, previous so-called abductions, previous ghost experiences, paranormal sightings, religious experiences, etc.
All three stages of the report would comprise the "case" for the particular person reporting.
IMHO, the ETH seems to have dominated even the collection of information, essentially marginalizing "Oz factor" information, which might actually have a more significant impact on explaining events than many would prefer to admit.
I will say that I haven't filled out a UFO report in a few years, so I can’t say what may be on any of them today. But I do recall that no questions as to my worldview, or previous UFO sighting, or paranormal experiences, or religious experiences were requested.
Revamping the reporting system would have to be hashed out more thoroughly with leaders of the existing UFO reporting organizations. Perhaps someone with some mojo can get those information receivers to better standardize and broaden their data collection techniques.
On your experiences, C.B. Finn, I sympathize. In my experience there is such a thing as raw evil in this world, beyond mere tricksterism. Since you mentioned "The Exorcist" film . . . I will say that in 1981 the situation of a friend I'd known for a few years deteriorated below his previous difficulties and led to an impromptu exorcism. When I met him about '79, the fellow was lucid and friendly almost all the time, but he'd sometimes fall into a spell. He explained his background to me, that after he graduated high school in about '64 he'd professed faith in Jesus Christ in a Baptist church, and following that he had enlisted in the US Army. He met a German girl while stationed in Germany and they married. According to this fellow, his wife convinced him to renounce Jesus Christ and profess Satan as Lord, which he did. Within a few months he was a psychotic trainwreck and the Army gave him a medical discharge with 90 percent mental disability (meaning he was collecting a modest monthly VA sum). When I met him a decade later he was still on anti-psychotics, but he often complained of demonic attack that he could not repulse. At the time I was a new explorer of Theism in general, and of biblical Theism in particular, having grown up a naturalist-materialist with a science interest. So I was not jumping into exorcisms at all. But finally, as a last resort on my part, during an evening conversation in '81 the fellow's demeanor turned quite dark and very unlike normal. In short, he did some things that I thought warranted an attempt at exorcism, so I started. At one point during the exorcism he put his face about an inch from mine, highly contorted, and growled, "You'll never get him, he's mine." I was amazed, but not surprisingly, not frightened. I continued the exorcism, and was later was joined by a friend, and while continuing the exorcism both of us witnessed, over about an hour, about two dozen black streaks zip by the head of our tormented friend. We had no successful conclusion with our friend, and as things would have it, I saw the fellow only one more time after that. In any case, this experience, whether anyone takes it at face value or not, leads me to continually express my warnings about naive attempts to contact the unknown.
C.B.Finn has been, and evidently is still going through some impressive experiences, whatever their ultimate origin. Will such striking synchronicities, and strongly reinforced impressions about demonic interaction, and communication with "higher beings" perhaps lead to something like a CE experience? Even if not in Finn's case, what about for many other people reporting UFO or CE events? I think it's possible, and perhaps likely.
I throw out the following thoughts to cuss and dis-cuss.
IMHO a UFO / anomalous experience reporting agency should focus, first of all on details of the event being reported: objects, lights, shapes, distances, times, other witnesses, effects, traces, humanoids, etc, etc. Essentially the standard modern report.
Perhaps, if possible, several days to a week later, the person reporting should again file the report, from zero, to see if inconsistencies with the first report appear, or if more details have been remembered, or forgotten.
Finally, perhaps two or three weeks after that second review of the case, the reporting person should be gingerly questioned as to worldview, spiritual views, theological views, previous knowledge about science, about UFOs, about paranormal, occult, etc., previous UFO sightings, previous so-called abductions, previous ghost experiences, paranormal sightings, religious experiences, etc.
All three stages of the report would comprise the "case" for the particular person reporting.
IMHO, the ETH seems to have dominated even the collection of information, essentially marginalizing "Oz factor" information, which might actually have a more significant impact on explaining events than many would prefer to admit.
I will say that I haven't filled out a UFO report in a few years, so I can’t say what may be on any of them today. But I do recall that no questions as to my worldview, or previous UFO sighting, or paranormal experiences, or religious experiences were requested.
Revamping the reporting system would have to be hashed out more thoroughly with leaders of the existing UFO reporting organizations. Perhaps someone with some mojo can get those information receivers to better standardize and broaden their data collection techniques.
On your experiences, C.B. Finn, I sympathize. In my experience there is such a thing as raw evil in this world, beyond mere tricksterism. Since you mentioned "The Exorcist" film . . . I will say that in 1981 the situation of a friend I'd known for a few years deteriorated below his previous difficulties and led to an impromptu exorcism. When I met him about '79, the fellow was lucid and friendly almost all the time, but he'd sometimes fall into a spell. He explained his background to me, that after he graduated high school in about '64 he'd professed faith in Jesus Christ in a Baptist church, and following that he had enlisted in the US Army. He met a German girl while stationed in Germany and they married. According to this fellow, his wife convinced him to renounce Jesus Christ and profess Satan as Lord, which he did. Within a few months he was a psychotic trainwreck and the Army gave him a medical discharge with 90 percent mental disability (meaning he was collecting a modest monthly VA sum). When I met him a decade later he was still on anti-psychotics, but he often complained of demonic attack that he could not repulse. At the time I was a new explorer of Theism in general, and of biblical Theism in particular, having grown up a naturalist-materialist with a science interest. So I was not jumping into exorcisms at all. But finally, as a last resort on my part, during an evening conversation in '81 the fellow's demeanor turned quite dark and very unlike normal. In short, he did some things that I thought warranted an attempt at exorcism, so I started. At one point during the exorcism he put his face about an inch from mine, highly contorted, and growled, "You'll never get him, he's mine." I was amazed, but not surprisingly, not frightened. I continued the exorcism, and was later was joined by a friend, and while continuing the exorcism both of us witnessed, over about an hour, about two dozen black streaks zip by the head of our tormented friend. We had no successful conclusion with our friend, and as things would have it, I saw the fellow only one more time after that. In any case, this experience, whether anyone takes it at face value or not, leads me to continually express my warnings about naive attempts to contact the unknown.
