2012 and the maya

[Mothra]

Screw the lines of code...do you know how much money was made with bogus Y2K software? If Y2K were an issue then it was overshadowed by the people who took advantage of it.

Honestly...all those corporations that spent major $$$ becoming Y2K compliant would have saved a whole lot of cash if they just used a Mac.

The majority of that software was BIOS overlay software. It basically enhances your system BIOS. all it did was create a new layer to the logic. Which basically made it Y2K compliant. Most people didn't have a clue on how to update a BIOS. So it did its job..

As far as MACS go I remember OS8 and OS9 being the worst OS I'd ever seen. Absolute antiquated Garbage. Then Jobs dusted off the Next OS and suddenly they are relevant again. The minute that OS came out I fell in love with MACS. However I use PC's because I can build them cheap and I don't have thousands of dollars to buy a G series. If the OS/X OS came out as a retail OS I would be all over it.

 

[Gene Steinberg]

The majority of that software was BIOS overlay software. It basically enhances your system BIOS. all it did was create a new layer to the logic. Which basically made it Y2K compliant. Most people didn't have a clue on how to update a BIOS. So it did its job..

As far as MACS go I remember OS8 and OS9 being the worst OS I'd ever seen. Absolute antiquated Garbage. Then Jobs dusted off the Next OS and suddenly they are relevant again. The minute that OS came out I fell in love with MACS. However I use PC's because I can build them cheap and I don't have thousands of dollars to buy a G series. If the OS/X OS came out as a retail OS I would be all over it.

Macs start at $799, for the Mac mini. There is no G series Mac. There is a Mac Pro, a workstation beginning at $2,799 in a standard configuration. However, when you price it against the equivalent Dell product, a Precision Workstation, the Mac Pro is generally hundreds of dollars less -- but the configurations you compare must be the same.

Apple will never release Mac OS X for non-Apple products. The last time they tried to do that sort of thing, when they had an official clone program in the mid-1990s, it nearly killed the company.

One of the great Mac advantages is the fact that it is an integrated solution. Microsoft has to make an operating system that will work with thousands of third-party computers, and that causes trouble.

Let's take the rest of this discussion to the tech forum, OK?

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[valiens]

So, what excuse will the 2012 cult have in 2013 if nothing happens? The same one used in 2003 when Planet X never arrived?

I'm sure they're going to have another BS, money making venture up their sleeve. I guess we'll all know in due time.

If they're smart they'll say "It happened. Didn't you feel it? The great change is upon us!"

And then the great change can be upon us indefinitely.

 

[CapnG]

If they're smart they'll say "It happened. Didn't you feel it? The great change is upon us!"

And then the great change can be upon us indefinitely.

That or they'll say "We did it! Through meditation, positive reinforcement, rubbing crystals with sacred oils and veganism we saved the planet! Go New Age whackos!!"

 

[Jose Collado]

If the OS/X OS came out as a retail OS I would be all over it.

I'm not allowed to comment officially but Hell would have to freeze over first

 

[Anubis]

2020, 2036 and 2050 have already been announced by various groups as "backup" dates for armaggedon...

These types always remind me of the lyrics to Iron Maiden's Die With Your Boots On:

"Another prophet of disaster
Who says the ship is lost
Another prophet of disaster
Leaving you to count the cost
Taunting us with visions
Afflicting us with fear
Predicting war for millions
In the hope that one appears."

...and on it goes, ad nauseum.

 

[Kieran]

i think the maya 2012 is a lot of old rubbish, however take this experiment in Switzerland and Cern,and forward four years from the date of this experiment. If a black holes occured, and it seems possible from what i have read. could this be what the whole mayan debate is about! .I am just throwing this out there for a few laughs, I dont think seriously this will happen. i read somewhere it would take four years to develop and suck everything on earth into it , that just got me thinking

 

[Mothra]

i think the maya 2012 is a lot of old rubbish, however take this experiment in Switzerland and Cern,and forward four years from the date of this experiment. If a black holes occured, and it seems possible from what i have read. could this be what the whole mayan debate is about! .I am just throwing this out there for a few laughs, I dont think seriously this will happen. i read somewhere it would take four years to develop and suck everything on earth into it , that just got me thinking

Dude that would make a great friggin movie. I can imagine HP Lovecraft's Old Ones pouring out of the black hole and taking over, kinda like that scene in Hellboy.

Actually I hope something does happen. Man needs to be shaken up a bit, needs to be knocked off its high horse and humbled.

Raise your hand if your for monstrous, tentacled, creatures pouring out of a portal in December of 2012.

 

[Anubis]

Dude that would make a great friggin movie. I can imagine HP Lovecraft's Old Ones pouring out of the black hole and taking over, kinda like that scene in Hellboy.

Actually I hope something does happen. Man needs to be shaken up a bit, needs to be knocked off its high horse and humbled.

Raise your hand if your for monstrous, tentacled, creatures pouring out of a portal in December of 2012.

This certainly adds a little more validity to the "Cthulhu 2012" Presidential campaign. Why vote for a lesser evil when you can vote for the greatest evil of them all!

 

[Kieran]

Dude that would make a great friggin movie. I can imagine HP Lovecraft's Old Ones pouring out of the black hole and taking over, kinda like that scene in Hellboy.

Actually I hope something does happen. Man needs to be shaken up a bit, needs to be knocked off its high horse and humbled.

Raise your hand if your for monstrous, tentacled, creatures pouring out of a portal in December of 2012.

It might be possible roll on 2012

 

[Kevin Daly]

As others have pointed out, the fact that a Long Count cycle is nearing its end doesn't mean all that much.

But more to the point: even if the Maya centuries ago believed that the world would end in 2012, what of it? Why would you possibly imagine they knew what's going to happen? They were just normally clever human beings with a nifty calendar and an unfortunate attitude towards politics (winner has the loser tortured to death).

Be realistic people. If you're going to assume the Maya had some mysterious knowledge that we don't have, where do you draw the line - are you going to argue as well that they were right about the necessity of sadistic human sacrifice?

It actually does a disservice to their real achievements to bury them in a sugar-coating of New Age gibberish (and while we're speaking of that sort of thing, don't get me started on those morons who dress up in silly frocks and prance around Stonehenge calling themselves "druids"...)

The only way the world will end in 2012 is if Sarah Palin is elected US President - and in that case of course it wouldn't actually end until 2013 when she's been inaugurated and mistakes the Big Red Button for the "power on" on her DVD player...

 

[SoCalGNX]

The majority of that software was BIOS overlay software. It basically enhances your system BIOS. all it did was create a new layer to the logic. Which basically made it Y2K compliant. Most people didn't have a clue on how to update a BIOS. So it did its job..

As far as MACS go I remember OS8 and OS9 being the worst OS I'd ever seen. Absolute antiquated Garbage. Then Jobs dusted off the Next OS and suddenly they are relevant again. The minute that OS came out I fell in love with MACS. However I use PC's because I can build them cheap and I don't have thousands of dollars to buy a G series. If the OS/X OS came out as a retail OS I would be all over it.

Once Mac, you never go back.....

 

[Gene Steinberg]

The cheapest Mac, the mini, is $599 US. There is no "G" series. Hasn't been since the Power Mac G5 in 2005. Apple has used Intel chips since 2006.

 

[schticknz]

Once Mac, you never go back.....

Ahhh Macs. I started on Classic Macs in 1990 (was using a mainframe vax to do my University work and programming before that ... and even before that, a Sinclair ZX81 !!!). Stayed with Macs until 1995 and then used OS/2 and Windows 3.11 and Win 95 ... and ... ... and .... .... and ... ... never went back!!!

Really don't understand this love of Macs. Blimey ... I like to fiddle with my computers AND to some reasonable extent understand the bloody error codes. Yeah Windows sucks sometimes ... but ... at least I CAN FIDDLE with it if I feel the need, and replace bits if I want to upgrade something.

So yahh boo sucks to your smug Macs ... I like my operating systems to be buggy and insecure and downright irritating. At least it gives the computer some sort of personality (oh my computer by the way is called Terry today ... he'll be Fiona tomorrow).

Oh and Linux?? Gee whiz ... all very nice you know but you have to be a bloody Unix expert or a 17 year old geek to understand whats truly going on there.

In another universe all computers are OS/2. Best operating system I've ever used (oh and I worked with it by the way at the European Patent Office in The Hague ... so put that in your pipe and smoke it!) ... in my opinion (better throw that in before someone gets the wrong idea ... agaain ).

This has been yet another truly unfocussed rant from yours truly (hmm thats a coincidence ).

schtick

ps you mac users may get out your napalm fuelled flamethrowers now. I of course am above that sort of thing

pps weird ... from the Mayans to the vagaries of using computers in the 21st century. What interesting times these are ...

 

[CapnG]

Ah, iSmug... you Mac cheerleaders do realize that the only thing that ever stopped Bill Gates from simply aquiring Apple was the need to maintain the illusion of competition and thus avoid antitrust lawsuits, right?

 

[schticknz]

Ah, iSmug... you Mac cheerleaders do realize that the only thing that ever stopped Bill Gates from simply aquiring Apple was the need to maintain the illusion of competition and thus avoid antitrust lawsuits, right?

Blimey ... I thought I would have been torn to shreds by now . Or maybe I'm right

I agree CapnG ... he didn't become a billionaire after all by being completely stupid (he's done some seriously stupid things, of course, but as we all know us true geniuses still do stupid things ... we're only human after all )

schtick ... backing away from this thread as the sound of very expensive but supposedly cool looking iscythes and iothergardeningequipment are being isharpened

 

[mike]

not an apple fan myself, and i was there from the very beginning.

the problem for me was connectivity, where the PC used standards like rs-232. the apple gear needed apple cables and apple peripherals to talk to.

proprietary cabling was my big issue, even today in the dept of health here in NSW PCs are supported, macs are not. a Dr or student bringing a mac to work is on his own, the computer service dept will offer "best effort" but they are not covered in the official service level agreements.

ah the good old days when a peek and a poke were still fun

 

[Aaron LeClair]

Meek mok Meek mok.

 

[schticknz]

not an apple fan myself, and i was there from the very beginning.

the problem for me was connectivity, where the PC used standards like rs-232. the apple gear needed apple cables and apple peripherals to talk to.

proprietary cabling was my big issue, even today in the dept of health here in NSW PCs are supported, macs are not. a Dr or student bringing a mac to work is on his own, the computer service dept will offer "best effort" but they are not covered in the official service level agreements.

ah the good old days when a peek and a poke were still fun

Ahh ... [Poke anything, anything] ... what an easy way to crash a ZX81 (without a ram pack of course ).

Anyway, yeah i played around with networking apples in a kids camp I remember it being fairly hideous. Mind you I also played around with Nimbus PCs, Acorns, BBC Micros ... so it was a strange time working in that place anyway

Getting back to the Mayans. I wonder if the Mayans had Apple Macs or PCs made out of impossible large pieces of stone ... to vaguely get back to the subject

 

[schticknz]

Meek mok Meek mok.

Blimey ... is that what a pole shift will do to youtube in 2012?

My neck hurts ... nooooo ... and why does Sean David Morton look like the British Astrologer Russell Grant???

See chunky bloke under "Video Horoscopes" on this page:

Russell Grant Horoscopes

ps ... why isn't Morton more worried about this pole shift thing?? I would be brown trousers time for me if I knew this for certain

pps ... and by the way ... what a load of crap!