A thought on the potential reaction by the masses to "disclosure"

[Gareth]

So do you guys thing that with all this interest online and podcasts and books and DVDs that we are getting any closer to a critical mass? Or is just a big boiling pot of noise that has zero effect on anything?

Maybe Rich Dolan is right on the money saying that we wouldnt get a peep out of anyone until a serious crisis was facing the world. I often wonder if my Govt down here in Australia has the slightest clue about anything. Id be hugely surprised if they did.

 

[Aaron LeClair]

So do you guys thing that with all this interest online and podcasts and books and DVDs that we are getting any closer to a critical mass? Or is just a big boiling pot of noise that has zero effect on anything?

Maybe Rich Dolan is right on the money saying that we wouldnt get a peep out of anyone until a serious crisis was facing the world. I often wonder if my Govt down here in Australia has the slightest clue about anything. Id be hugely surprised if they did.

We're one inch closer than we were in the 80s. It will take another 300 yrs before we get there. That's my estimation.

I'm not a fan of Dolan's. If he said that, I'm in agreement with him though.

 

[Daedalus]

There is a BIG difference between saying you can accept an "alien" lifeform and actually coming to the grand realization that it is actually true. This may be akin to thinking that there are UFO's and actually experiencing and seeing one for yourself. I think of Biedneys sighting Caracas(sp?). There must be a huge step(both frightening and wondrous) involved between thinking and knowing. I've read recent polls that over 50% of the US is some type of fundamentalist Christian. That means, in my book, we have major problems with that type of knowledge. And we have major reactions to it as well. Coalitions, bunkers, tinfoil hats, mass suicides, paranoia, etc.

I think thats a great point. I had absolutely no idea that the fundamentalist Christian segment of American society was anything even close to approaching half. No wonder you guys seem so screwed up down there sometimes (Views & Opinions etc... No offence. Not that I'm anti bible thumper by any means I think I'm pretty open minded but my tolerance for closed minded people wanes.

The whole mass panic scenario is a good possibility I admit. I think we have to look to the last big thing that has happened (9/11) what happened to people? I understand it is different but we can draw some conclusions based on the actions and thoughts of the masses. I think this topic is WAY to complicated and someone would need to write a stack of f**kin books on the different possibilites and intracacies.

I think we have to differenciate the difference between: Yes there are UFOs and Yes we've been in contact with aliens. The most plausible scenario if the government does know what's going is a slow acclimation to life previously existing on mars, more extra solar planets that would be inhabitable. Maybe another 5 or 10 years of this with scientists now saying that its probable life exists closer than previously expected and some cool new physics from the LHC.

 

[Gareth]

So do you guys thing that with all this interest online and podcasts and books and DVDs that we are getting any closer to a critical mass? Or is just a big boiling pot of noise that has zero effect on anything?

Maybe Rich Dolan is right on the money saying that we wouldnt get a peep out of anyone until a serious crisis was facing the world. I often wonder if my Govt down here in Australia has the slightest clue about anything. Id be hugely surprised if they did.

We're one inch closer than we were in the 80s. It will take another 300 yrs before we get there. That's my estimation.

I'm not a fan of Dolan's. If he said that, I'm in agreement with him though.

Really? Any particular reason? I thought he was great on all 3 appearances on the Paracast.... although I havent read his book yet - I intend to do so after the 2nd Ed.

 

[Tommy Allison]

I assure everyone. The only people who are going to care about the truth about Extra-Terrestrial Life, are the churches, and the governments of the world. The people by and large could care less. Anyone that stands to profit from alien technologies will definitely want to make sure that the common citizen has to pay for it first.

The governments and churches will be deemed irrelevant, as the churches will have lied for thousands of years, and of course the government not being able to protect the people will be looked at as ridiculously ineffectual.

Those are the only people who actually give a shit about Aliens showing up, because all the lies the rest of humanity have been told for so long, will result in a massive backlash.

 

[Aaron LeClair]

So do you guys thing that with all this interest online and podcasts and books and DVDs that we are getting any closer to a critical mass? Or is just a big boiling pot of noise that has zero effect on anything?

Maybe Rich Dolan is right on the money saying that we wouldnt get a peep out of anyone until a serious crisis was facing the world. I often wonder if my Govt down here in Australia has the slightest clue about anything. Id be hugely surprised if they did.

We're one inch closer than we were in the 80s. It will take another 300 yrs before we get there. That's my estimation.

I'm not a fan of Dolan's. If he said that, I'm in agreement with him though.

Really? Any particular reason? I thought he was great on all 3 appearances on the Paracast.... although I havent read his book yet - I intend to do so after the 2nd Ed.

I got your pm, and sent a response in more detail. I thought he was ok on the Paracast. I don't hate the guy, just not fanatical about him.

 

[Atrayo]

So do you guys thing that with all this interest online and podcasts and books and DVDs that we are getting any closer to a critical mass?

We're (meaning the common person) as close to it whenever humanity first laid eyes on a UFO. All the media, be it books, articles, films etc... has only saturated the topic to overkill. Including the entertainment industry giving us new genres of science-fiction and science fantasy.

The science-fiction may help slightly in wrapping our minds around such a broad topic. Akin to forecasting from a futurist point of view like Genne Roddenbery did with the initial Star Trek franchise. That much of the technology showcased in the 1960's original series has come to pass in today's reality.

We're working out of a vacuum of intellectual and imaginative speculation for many decades now. With only a few nuggets of truth, wrapped in a tapestry of layered Lore. That at worst is clouding our judgment and at best our ability to reason overall with the scale of this topic.

 

[Tony2013]

I think the whole mass-panic disclosure scenario is complete BS. Who knows who put it there, or how it was dreamed up in the first place, but it functions beautifully to keep disclosure from ever happening. The government/whoever could endlessly justify not revealing everything it knows because it would disrupt society to the point of collapse. No one in their *right mind* wants that right? I don't think, however, that the government or some secret disinformation agency planted that mindset to begin with. It was probably born out of "War of the Worlds" or others of that ilk.

On the other hand, I don't think disclosure would be the liberating, earth-changing experience that some people imagine. I think in the event of a mass sighting or UFO contact, the people of this nation (or anywhere) would instantly default all response and reaction to their elected officials. I don't think people are as apathetic as to say, "So what?" and continue with their life completely unaffected, but I do think people are conditioned to a point to where they would sit by the TV and wait for the government to do something, or wait for the media to gift them an opinion. If the government went to war, the people would support it. If they greeted aliens with peace, the people would support that. Speaking in broad strokes, society seems to fall effortlessly into whatever line the government or media takes, heaping all responsibility onto them, because no one has either the intellect or clear sense of direction to think deeply or meaningfully on what an alien presence would do for society, be it positive or negative, completely ignoring the fact that our elected officials and TV anchors are neither intellectual or clear-minded.

 

[macavity]

You know, I think I've modified my opinion on this somewhat. I still believe that the existence of intelligent alien life is a profoundly moving concept but I think only a minority of the population would feel the same way. Sadly, most would probably either:

- not notice,
- not care, or
- not know what to think/feel until told

On a brighter note I'm reminded of the newsreader on the Simpsons whose first words on learning of an alien invasion are:

"Ladies and gentlemen, uh, we've just lost the picture, but what we've seen speaks for itself. The Corvair spacecraft has apparently been taken over -- 'conquered' if you will -- by a master race of giant space ants. It's difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive earth men or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves."

 

[mike]

remember that during the first gulf war, there was a spin off phenomena that was of concern to govt all over the world, it certianly happened here in australia.
people stopped going to work..........

unsure if ww3 was about to start and with the media gone into 24 hour war news mode, people started calling in sick and sat glued to the screen, in a lot of cases wondering if they should be heading for the hills.

i worked for a large public hospital system, and it came up in the managment meetings absenteism was rife.

Aliens would be even worse, the media would again go to 24 hour news mode, and the questions the event would cause the common man to ask himself would cause social chaos.

if "someone" parks a 10 mile wide saucer over a city, it will be every man for himself. we are as a species far too reactive . the safest course is to disclose such info bit by bit, not as a torrent of fact delivered up "one day"

productivity would be "hurt" by such an event, but worse essential services would be at risk of shutting down.

 

[Gareth]

Mike youre in Australia too? I just saw on the 'Today' show that they have footage of a cow being abducted by a UFO.... waiting now to see said footage. (Im in Perth right now, so 2 hrs behind the rest of the country).