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Alex Jones - A Message To The Future

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skeptoid humanoid said:
I've been monitoring Jone's podcasts for the last few years. He just keeps getting more paranoid and delusional as time progreses. For example, I agree with Alex Jones that George W Bush has evil policies. But I don't think Bush is a shape-shifting reptilian, do you guys?

It seems you are confusing Alex Jones with David Icke.
 
musictomyears said:
That's an incredibly lame video, I'm sorry to say. Why does William Cooper talk about himself for what seems like an eternity?

You have to watch all six parts (the first clip is Bill Cooper just prevaricating a bit for some straaange reason) ... or listen to them anyway. I cannot for the life of me see how anyone can look at AJ the same way after hearing him talk such nonsense in these clips ... but thats just me maybe (??). Maybe my BS detector is more finely tuned than others :P
 
AJ even admits he has grown in the past few years. i cant believe some of the crap i used to believe in. like God and the Bush family. wtf was i thinking. AJ has to make money like the rest of us. i believe he is a true Patriot.
 
pixelsmith said:
AJ even admits he has grown in the past few years. i cant believe some of the crap i used to believe in. wtf was i thinking. AJ has to make money like the rest of us. i believe he is a true Patriot.

Agreed... we have all been wrong in the past, hopefully we all grow in learning and wisdom over time, and I too believe him to be a true patriot... not perfect, but deeply caring for us all.

Also, he always encourages people to make copies of his videos and share them freely... he even has them posted to Google Video himself... pretty admirable overall.
 
I don't know Alex Jones' older stuff - and, frankly, I don't have the time to dig through it all - but his new material is well researched and fact based. He usually backs up his claims with news items from the MSM, or produces his own video footage, as in the case of the Bohemian Grove.

I guess where opinions are bound to differ is the way Jones interprets the facts. For example, warrantless wiretapping, tagging of livestock and humans, and forced vaccinations are, according to him, part of a concerted effort to enslave us. It is impossible to prove or disprove this conclusion. You either intuitively resonate with it, or you don't.
 
The guy is a doomsday profit. Er, excuse me, doomsday prophet.

He's seriously religious and seriously into Armageddon.

I think he thinks he's a patriot. He's on target about abuses that have occurred in the system of late. The abuses could have a great negative impact one day. But his message is delivered in the style of plain old Southern Sunday Evangelism and that's a huge turnoff. He makes himself unbelievable. (Thank goodness???)

I think the best (or worst) that can be said of him is that he believes himself. I find him as scary as any other Hell, Fire and Damnation preacher I ever came across.
 
I remember reading that the Gates Foundation only spends a legally required minimum on charitable activities, something like a certain percentage of the annual profit on their investments. That's only a few million dollars per year. The "billions" that are quoted ad nauseam remain largely untouched.

I agree with Jones: People like Gates and Buffet are wolves in sheep's clothing. Utterly phoney and detestable.
 
I use Occam's Razor with just about everything Alex Jones talks about. In most—if not all—cases the simplest explanation is that Alex Jones is Bat Sh*t insane.
 
icculus said:
In most—if not all—cases the simplest explanation is that Alex Jones is Bat Sh*t insane.

So you're saying that there is no group of really, really, really rich people who control the world more or less at their whim, and who have some among them that would really like to get rid of a lot of us because we are getting hard to "manage"? Like, you're saying that we are not seen as livestock in the eyes of our ranchers? What a relief then!
 
Frozen E.T. Burrito said:
icculus said:
In most—if not all—cases the simplest explanation is that Alex Jones is Bat Sh*t insane.

So you're saying that there is no group of really, really, really rich people who control the world more or less at their whim, and who have some among them that would really like to get rid of a lot of us because we are getting hard to "manage"? Like, you're saying that we are not seen as livestock in the eyes of our ranchers? What a relief then!

I believe what you stated above is a bit paranoid quite frankly. After listening to some of these people like Alex Jones or Jeff Rense I can see where these feelings come from, however, IMHO there is little substance to the enormous tales they weave by cherry picking news stories and obscuring facts.

That said, I think it's highly probable that a rather small organization exists parallel to our government that has taken enormous amounts of knowledge and technologies deep black and for whatever reason keeps a very tight lid on it. But to say this extends to Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Bono etc. is folly.

Singling out Bill Gates is silly. I don't know about Warren Buffet, but I know Bill Gates is a genuinely good guy—and that's saying alot given my current place of employment (Apple). I worked at Microsoft for a good chunk of time in the 90s and met him on a few occasions. I have friends that know him on closer basis and what Alex and others say are ludicrous. In fact look no further than the headlines today!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/01/25/davos.main/index.html
 
icculus said:
I have friends that know him on closer basis and what Alex and others say are ludicrous.

So, have you looked into the charges that Jones makes against Gates? Or do you simply trust that your friends are in a position to accurately inform you about his foundation's activities?
 
Frozen E.T. Burrito said:
So you're saying that there is no group of really, really, really rich people who control the world more or less at their whim

I wouldn't say that's paranoid, I'd say that's the defaut situation. I would not go so far as to say these people represent a secret agenda to wipe out good chunks of humanity, however. The wealthy do a significant amount of infighting amoungst themselves, after all.
 
Frozen E.T. Burrito said:
That's not what they said when they erected the GA Guide Stones.

People SAY lots of crazy things. That doesn't necessarily mean their goals are being accomplished.
 
CapnG said:
Frozen E.T. Burrito said:
That's not what they said when they erected the GA Guide Stones.

People SAY lots of crazy things. That doesn't necessarily mean their goals are being accomplished.

The same was said about Hitler too. "He's just a crazy guy, all his talk will amount to nothing".
 
musictomyears said:
The same was said about Hitler too. "He's just a crazy guy, all his talk will amount to nothing".

And there it is... what's is called? Hoyle's law? If that's the case then we won't know until after it's too late anyway.
 
CapnG said:
musictomyears said:
The same was said about Hitler too. "He's just a crazy guy, all his talk will amount to nothing".

And there it is... what's is called? Hoyle's law? If that's the case then we won't know until after it's too late anyway.

Ahh ... Hitler ... a guy financed by all sorts of lovely corporations, major banks and helped out by companies like IBM, I G Farben and people like the Bush family. Just another puppet?

Quite definitely I think :eek:

My point being that the "conspiracy" has been going for a very long time and the powers that be know all the tricks of the trade and have been using them with great effect for a very long time.

No one person like Alex "Infowrestler" Jones is going to change things in any way shape or form ... and the chances are that he's a puppet like a lot of the world leaders are.
 
..."If ANYONE takes him seriously after this then ... they're bad guys too ... I'm mean what a load of total twaddle."

you dont know Jack Schticknz.
 
pixelsmith said:
..."If ANYONE takes him seriously after this then ... they're bad guys too ... I'm mean what a load of total twaddle."

you dont know Jack Schticknz.

I know enough to know false evangelical and fearmongering nonsense when I hear it ... but if people are going to be taken in my such twaddle ... who am I to complain?

People find "God" everyday, apparently ... which is a bit odd since I've been looking for him for ages ever since he borrowed my secateurs to prune his roses and failed to return them ... that was 3 years ago now 8), and I've yet to find him ... just buggered off with them never to return by the look of it.

But this is all starting to get a bit wearying really. I should know by now that you can't tell anyone anything any more. They've got to work it out for themselves in their own time ... and nothing can get in the way of cold hard facts.

Ahh well ... better go and make myself another very large coffee, and hit my head against a brick wall for a while ... all in all thats marginally a bit more fun ... schtick out
 
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