Alien message: Get rid of your nukes

[Ezechiel]

Yes, a lot of these military cases could be fabricated to incite intentional leaks. Do they want to start a religion? I don't know. If they are intentional leaks, the military certainly seems to desire that the public believe in extraterrestrial UFOs.

Looks like:

Is the perfect cover for stuff like this:

 

[Schuyler]

Problem with ufology, is that whatever is out there has busted these limits a long time ago. The intersection between their framework and ours offers us very little insight on their limitations.

Saying that you can evaluate a civilization working beyond Einsteinian limitations is a bit pretentious

When you get right down to it, we don't know anything at all. You could easily take the position that everything anyone says or said about UFOs is pretentious. Saying that there even is 'a civilization working beyond Einsteinian limitations' is a HUGE leap of faith. We don't know that. We have very little to work with except quasi-mythological stories from popular culture, many promulgated by outright charlatans.

When I evaluate UFO stories, my position is to start out with the statement: "Let's pretend for the sake of argument that this happened as reported. Now, where does that lead us?" If I don't do that, then I have literally nothing to discuss. We're paralyzed into inaction because what we say may be considered pretentious. Fuck pretention. Let's just deal with the case. In my opinion, this method of evaluation is a whole lot better than simply saying, "It's all bull shit" in hopes it will go away, or taking off on wild fancies of speculation that have absolutely nothing to do with the case as reported.

Sure, this may all be a joke perpetrated by officers against the men or the men against the officers. Or it may be a psych ops scenario. If any of those possibilities strike a chord with someone to the extent they can put a lid on it and walk away saying, "I figured it out. I'm done." by all means have at it. Make your case. Show your evidence. Or just walk away satisfied. Your choice. I personally do not think that thinking of a logically possible alternative lends weight or evidence to that alternative.

I fully understand that the UFO Guys (tm) may have far different motivations than those ascribed to Homo sapiens. On the other hand, they might not. So where do I start? With the evidence I THINK I have (which may be wrong). From that evidence my conclusions on motivations are these: The UFO Guys (tm) are not altruistic. They do not have a sense of morality that is anywhere close to Earth-based religious systems. They are not gods or angels. They and their machines are fallible. They have not exhibited great intellectual achievement beyond their technology. That's about a far as I can go.

So here thay are ALLEGEDLY buzzing our nukes. We have stories already from the Soviet Union that they buzzed their nukes, too. Now why would they do that? They MUST have a vested interest in not having a bunch of nukes go off. What could that vested interest be?

When we start ticking down the reasons from the standpoint of the ETH we don't get very far. Every star in the Universe puts out more space/time disruption, energy, and radiation than our pop guns. If we blew up the planet you'd barely know it from Mars or Venus. "Oh, yeah. It seems to have changed color and there aren't as many lights as there used to be. Wonder what happened?"

So that leads me to the conclusion that their vested interest has to be local to the planet. Why would it be local? Because they are here, too, and a bunch of nukes going off WOULD disrupt their 'lifestyle.' Given lots of OTHER stories about their behavior, craft, and presence of numbers, this leads me to some sort of inter-dimensional hypothesis. It's not well-developed. I don't have a rock-solid theoretical framework for it. I don't think theoretical physics with membranes, eleven dimensions, and string theory helps me out very much here, but my own thought processes as outlined above have led me in this direction. This is the direction I would like to explore. After considering all the other alleys in this burg, I think I want to sniff up this one for awhile. It may not be the right one, but it looks promising and worth my effort.

Now, if other people want to sniff up other alleys, that's okay. They probably deserve a sniff or two for complete coverage. And if you don't want to sniff up any alleys, that's okay, too, but I don't feel compelled to report back or take your counsel. If you don't want me to sniff up this alley, then I have some curiosity for why that is, but I'm not about to stop because of it. I'd rather be proactive about this rather than stand on the steet scratching my head for the rest of my life.

 

[methshin]

Good post Schuyler.

 

[Tommy Allison]

But we need our nukes to keep our planet at peace.

That, and we might need them if we have to fight some unfriendly space aliens.

Now if the aliens had said "Get Rid Of Sean Hannity", I'd be thinking WOW, an enlightened advanced alien race is looking out for us.

If the aliens said "Get Rid Of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, And All The Commie Democrats" I'd be thinking, the aliens want us to have a perfect world.

 

[Ezechiel]

So that leads me to the conclusion that their vested interest has to be local to the planet. Why would it be local? Because they are here, too, and a bunch of nukes going off WOULD disrupt their 'lifestyle.' Given lots of OTHER stories about their behavior, craft, and presence of numbers, this leads me to some sort of inter-dimensional hypothesis. It's not well-developed. I don't have a rock-solid theoretical framework for it. I don't think theoretical physics with membranes, eleven dimensions, and string theory helps me out very much here, but my own thought processes as outlined above have led me in this direction. This is the direction I would like to explore. After considering all the other alleys in this burg, I think I want to sniff up this one for awhile. It may not be the right one, but it looks promising and worth my effort.

If they're acting up here, they definitely have a vested interest.
Knowing this, I'd first want to establish an international timeline of this type of action and see if it all balances out or if there's an obvious concentration of interventions on US soil menacing my vested interests.

By disrupting our defense mechanisms, they can change the balance of power on the planet.

This kind of localized intervention is extremely weird if you place it in a global context... and the intent was transmitting a message to humanity.

 

[Tommy Allison]

When you get right down to it, we don't know anything at all. You could easily take the position that everything anyone says or said about UFOs is pretentious. Saying that there even is 'a civilization working beyond Einteinian limitations' is a HUGE leap of faith. We don't know that. We have very little to work with except quasi-mythological stories from popular culture, many promulgated by outright charlatans.

When I evaluate UFO stories, my position is to start out with the statement: "Let's pretend for the sake of argument that this happened as reported. Now, where does that lead us?" If I don't do that, then I have literally nothing to discuss. We're paralyzed into inaction because what we say may be considered pretentious. Fuck pretention. Let's just deal with the case. In my opinion, this method of evaluation is a whole lot better than simply saying, "It's all bull shit" in hopes it will go away, or taking off on wild fancies of speculation that have absolutely nothing to do with the case as reported.

Sure, this may all be a joke perpetrated by officers against the men or the men against the officers. Or it may be a psych ops scenario. If any of those possibilities strike a chord with someone to the extent they can put a lid on it and walk away saying, "I figured it out. I'm done." by all means have at it. Make your case. Show your evidence. Or just walk away satisfied. Your choice. I personally do not think that thinking of a logically possible alternative lends weight or evidence to that alternative.

I fully understand that the UFO Guys (tm) may have far different motivations than those ascribed to Homo sapiens. On the other hand, they might not. So where do I start? With the evidence I THINK I have (which may be wrong). From that evidence my conclusions on motivations are these: The UFO Guys (tm) are not altruistic. They do not have a sense of morality that is anywhere close to Earth-based religious systems. They are not gods or angels. They and their machines are fallible. They have not exhibited great intellectual achievement beyond their technology. That's about a far as I can go.

So here thay are ALLEGEDLY buzzing our nukes. We have stories already from the Soviet Union that they buzzed their nukes, too. Now why would they do that? They MUST have a vested interest in not having a bunch of nukes go off. What could that vested interest be?

When we start ticking down the reasons from the standpoint of the ETH we don't get very far. Every star in the Universe puts out more space/time disruption, energy, and radiation than our pop guns. If we blew up the planet you'd barely know it from Mars or Venus. "Oh, yeah. It seems to have changed color and there aren't as many lights as there used to be. Wonder what happened?"

So that leads me to the conclusion that their vested interest has to be local to the planet. Why would it be local? Because they are here, too, and a bunch of nukes going off WOULD disrupt their 'lifestyle.' Given lots of OTHER stories about their behavior, craft, and presence of numbers, this leads me to some sort of inter-dimensional hypothesis. It's not well-developed. I don't have a rock-solid theoretical framework for it. I don't think theoretical physics with membranes, eleven dimensions, and string theory helps me out very much here, but my own thought processes as outlined above have led me in this direction. This is the direction I would like to explore. After considering all the other alleys in this burg, I think I want to sniff up this one for awhile. It may not be the right one, but it looks promising and worth my effort.

Now, if other people want to sniff up oher alleys, that's okay. They probably deserve a sniff or two for complete coverage. And if you don't want to sniff up any alleys, that's okay, too, but I don't feel compelled to report back or take your counsel. If you don't want me to sniff up this alley, then I have some curiosity for why that is, but I'm not about to stop because of it. I'd rather be proactive about this rather than stand on the steet scratching my head for the rest of my life.

Taking a page from your book, let's go a bit further.

What do we know about nuclear explosions in general?

What known effects do they have on this planet?

Could the power of a nuclear explosion propel matter, and energy past our known reality affecting others dimensional realities?

Neutrinos? I think having read some on string theory, we could be looking at a possible reason why they do not like our nuclear warheads, and or reactors.

 

[David Biedny]

If the aliens said "Get Rid Of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, And All The Commie Democrats" I'd be thinking, the aliens want us to have a perfect world.

Tommy,

If you think that ridding the world of those folks would make it "perfect", you've been drinking Drano. Put that bottle down, go stick your finger down your throat and freak the kitties out.

I'll take those commies over a bunch of repugs any day, they listen to better music and have cooler women.

dB

 

[Bixyboo]

Tommy,

If you think that ridding the world of those folks would make it "perfect", you've been drinking Drano. Put that bottle down, go stick your finger down your throat and freak the kitties out.

I'll take those commies over a bunch of repugs any day, they listen to better music and have cooler women.

dB

LOL! Who are you and what have you done with David Biedney? I've never heard you so witty/funny before! (Uh, NOT to detract from your well-placed point....:redface

 

[Schuyler]

Could the power of a nuclear explosion propel matter, and energy past our known reality affecting others dimensional realities?

I'm with you on that. I realize I'm just speculating, but it seems to me we know an atomic explosion is a very fundamental event. It's not like gunpowder; it's messing with the stuff of existence at a very basic level. IF there is something to the IDH thing, then such an explosion in one 'dimension' might mean one in another as well. If we're peeing on their grass, their behavior makes consistent sense.

Of course, getting from here to there is a big stretch. I guess I'm not very far up that alley yet.

 

[SyS_Config]

Why nukes, which of course we know what would happen, at least to us and most of the species, on it. Yet Earth seems to regenerate itself, -albeit -perhaps differently next time around.
This feels a lot like the old Greek mythology when someone gave man the secret of fire, and the gods angered by all this, "punished" him by chaining him to a cliff, where an eagle would come and devour his liver forever.
By this Time, If ETs know how to give a red signal, then they should also know our propensity to be contrarian, even to our own interests and well being.
Therefore, "they" know they are wasting their breath, or whatever they use for lungs.I didn't see any signals for any cataclysmic event natural or manmade. Whether war, the Holocaust, that Tsunami, or those China syndrome events in the Ukraine. Nor for the production of biological and genetic weaponry and foodstuffs, , which if they are somehow "related" genetically, or rely on the same substinance, should be of some really serious concern to 'them'. I don't think they really care less, if they are there at all. Those of us concerned with the grand issues of our time, climate, disclosure, peace and war, famine, etc, and who dread each coming day, in fear of this very fragile thread we live on and call existence, can only speculate, and of course , will interpret just about anything as a sign from them or God, or God dressed as them, or them dressed as Gods. Its a primal scream for help, from a time the world did seem to revolve around us, and it did. To me, this is all,almost, like seeing patterns in a cloud. We must give things a "meaning".
I know, I know, its depressing, we have to find our own answers. We just want simple answers to the cures from disease, pain, hunger, their technology, and of course the answer to the age old questions when we meet them, "wheres all the womens", and the end to any responsibility at all in making our own way.Perfectly honest, humble and understandable reasons to want to meet "them".

After thousands of years, or just 60 from Roswell, the message if anything should be, don't worry about us, take care of your own selves. Which they,if they are out there, are letting us do admirably.

 

[Chuckleberryfinn]

Well said, Mr. Schuyler. I certainly hope that it's more interesting than government psych ops.

You make a good case about the local interest scenario, vis a vis, inter-dimensional entities. Personally, I like the idea of extra terrestrial space aliens who have had listening posts in our solar system for several centuries. The local interest scenario still applies here, since the aliens may have a base on the back of the moon, Mars or Mars' moons, or the asteroid belt, or Jupiter's moons, Saturn's moons, the Oort cloud, etc. I am still interested in the UFOs and Nukes cases. Military cases in general, however, make me skeptical because the military likely infuses the facts with so much disinfo.

-CBF