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An Abduction Gone Horribly Wrong?

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skunkape said:
I used to feel that way myself, but I eventually concluded that any weapons I have access to are all but useless against whatever these things are. It's hard to counter an opponent that can shut your consciousness off like a lightswitch. I suppose you could rig all the cattle in your herd with explosive booby-traps. Maybe use an altimeter for a triggering device.
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Actually, I think we've been subjected to a massive con in that regard. I honestly think that a lot of whatever truth may lie at the basis of the abduction phenomenon consists of a deliberate staged-managed attempt to spread the idea that Resistance Is Useless. In fact an attempt to domesticate us.
And @#$$ that. It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
 
Tommy Allison said:
I'm of the mind that in theory, with the right technology, a farmer, or hunter could mask their presence to where when one of these things snagged a cow, they could document it with video, or shoot one or all of the occupants if they were doing it hands on.

I think humans need to be knocking these aliens off with extreme prejudice. It would send a message to whatever entities are killing our cattle, and people that we are not a species to be screwed with.
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As profoundly as I disagree with you about economic systems, politics, war, peace, etc. etc...I agree with you a hundred per cent on this one.

If they're doing this to our people, let them have first-hand experience of the fate of the cave bear.
 
I distinctly recall hearing about sheep mutilations a few years back ('97-ish). Also a spate of cat mutilations in (07-08?). And you could theoretically include goat attacks attributed to chupacabras if you really wanted to.

I'm also inclined to agree with skunkape on the whole resistance is futile aspect. I'm sure the average tiger must think he's pretty badass right up until the time he gets a chest full of hot lead.

Overconfindence in ones own abilities is no defense against superior intelligence and superior weaponry.
 
Tommy Allison said:
Here's a thought.

Why haven't we found Deer Mutilations, and every other kind of animal mutilations? Is it because we don't care?

I'm wondering if we're blind to the fact that other animals could be grabbed up and mutilated the same way?

I had another thought about this guy. He was by himself, alone when it happened.

The same thing with Cattle Mutilations, usually it's one cow, singled out of the herd that gets tractor beamed up to the ship, vivisected, then dropped back to earth.
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See the thing is, deer not cultivated and tended as cattle are. Deer are overpopulated to begin with and are culled as the hunting seasons and licenses allow. The only time we, humans, would recognize basic mutilation cases are when the human caretakers find something wrong with their livestock.

In general when we find a deer or wild goat or boar dead in the woods, we can only think that it died of natural causes...unless it looks like something we've never seen before; like a coyote with severe mange. Then we consider it to be a chupacabra.

I've heard of deaths of poultry by exsanguination, yet no blood found at the scene. Usually deaths like this are attributed to practioners of voodoo or santeria.

I think the human mutilation is a very frightening event, probably how frogs in a physiology lab would feel if they had a certain thing called "consciousness of self."
 
Well the Todd Sees case has me thinking that if we started an extinction program for the aliens, we'd probably curtail some of these late night visitations.

Aliens are not benevolent. If they were, they'd have the mentality of a REAL scientist. Do no harm. Do not interact. Watch from above. DO NOT INTERVENE.

Instead, what do we have? Aliens showing up, doing things to people, killing animals, and of course killing humans.

I'm actually of the mind that humans are responsible. Human scientists. Aliens, if they had superior technologies, could simply extract a blood sample, painlessly, and you'd never even know it, than exsanguinate an entire cow, or a person, and chop off parts of them.

I really think it's humans.
 
Tommy Allison said:
Aliens are not benevolent. If they were, they'd have the mentality of a REAL scientist. Do no harm. Do not interact. Watch from above. DO NOT INTERVENE.
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I agree they're not benevolent but scientists interact with what they're studying e.g. they put tracking devices on animals.

I'm actually of the mind that humans are responsible. Human scientists. Aliens, if they had superior technologies, could simply extract a blood sample, painlessly, and you'd never even know it, than exsanguinate an entire cow, or a person, and chop off parts of them.
I really think it's humans.
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No, they're aliens. True they could operate in ways that are painless but who says they care enough about life here to bother?
 
Trajanus said:
True they could operate in ways that are painless but who says they care enough about life here to bother?
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Indeed. As Gene and David often point out on the show, to speculate on the morals and motives of beings who are truely alien is somewhat pointless.
 
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