David Biedny
Paranormal Adept
BBC News - Newsnight - Witch-doctors reveal extent of child sacrifice in Uganda
Need I say more? Humans are savage creatures.
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Need I say more? Humans are savage creatures.
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Another reason why advanced species should avoid us
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aNorthernSoul
Professional Breather
While I actually totally agree with you, if there is any truth to many abduction cases and mutilation cases, whatever these things are seem pretty savage as well... whether they are more advanced or not.
David Biedny
Paranormal Adept
I totally agree. And the interview we recorded yesterday, to be broadcast this Sunday, will get into some depth on that issue. Scary stuff.
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aNorthernSoul
Professional Breather
Oh, I am very intrigued to hear that show! I'll be looking forward to listen to it!
Siani
Despiser of religious nuts
Ignorance is a truly terrible thing. We've had at least one such killing here in the UK:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1788452.stm
And people wonder why I prefer animals to humans...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1788452.stm
And people wonder why I prefer animals to humans...
dusty
Skilled Investigator
I find this sort of thing absolutely disgusting,
There are few things in life where I really get out of my pram, and when that happens I'm sad to say the darker side to my personality gets woken up and all the worst kind of vengeful thinking kicks in. After reading that article and specifically the part about the ex witch doctor being exonerated after all this time cuts no ice with me I'm afraid, and even now writing this the thoughts of what I would do to him dont bare mentioning.
Some years ago there was a case like this in the UK,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4098172.stm
I remember well just how chilling I found all this and it really makes me sad to be a part of humanity when these things come up.
If you think that's bad then just look at this. I found it by accident and found it very disturbing. Be aware this is TRULY SICK. I thought about posting it some days ago but refrained as to be honest I think to much of you all. So read the link first and think do you really want to see this?
http://thewondrous.com/2009/12/ever-shocking-chinese-boiled-baby-soup/
A very upset,
Mark
There are few things in life where I really get out of my pram, and when that happens I'm sad to say the darker side to my personality gets woken up and all the worst kind of vengeful thinking kicks in. After reading that article and specifically the part about the ex witch doctor being exonerated after all this time cuts no ice with me I'm afraid, and even now writing this the thoughts of what I would do to him dont bare mentioning.
Some years ago there was a case like this in the UK,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4098172.stm
I remember well just how chilling I found all this and it really makes me sad to be a part of humanity when these things come up.
If you think that's bad then just look at this. I found it by accident and found it very disturbing. Be aware this is TRULY SICK. I thought about posting it some days ago but refrained as to be honest I think to much of you all. So read the link first and think do you really want to see this?
http://thewondrous.com/2009/12/ever-shocking-chinese-boiled-baby-soup/
A very upset,
Mark
Ron Collins
Curiously Confused
I could not agree more. I have a very vengeful dark side when it comes to children being exploited, beaten, or killed. I admittedly go completely off the reservation. That dark side took increased several orders of magnitude in depth when I became a father.
TO ANYONE READING THIS, PLEASE DO NOT CLICK ON THAT LINK.
I honestly wish to god or whatever I didn't click that link. That is going to stay with me for the rest of my life. I can't think rationally right now. I am filled with true hate. Humans truly are the most savage animal in all the universe.
Tom From Hong Kong
Sleeping with one eye open . . .
I still think that the majority of humanity is fundamentally decent - not perfect but decent. Unfortunately the powerful few and the truly ignorant tend to wield disproportionate power, whether it be in a developed country like the U.S. or Germany, or a developing economy like Uganda. If broader humanity is guilty of something I believe it is passivity and a lack of willingness to stand up against what they know is fundamentally wrong.
skunkape
Paranormal Maven
Especially when we get hopped up on religion. That shit is worse than crack.
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aNorthernSoul
Professional Breather
That's exactly what I was about to reference. While somethings are just too horrible for humans to allow themselves to say they were duped into it, one must not ignore the fact that the source of this and many other tragedies and downright criminal activities is putting religion before basic human rights and freedoms.
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pixelsmith
Guest
"Especially when we get hopped up on religion".... or war... sacrifice or dropping bombs... no difference to me.
jpw.in.wi
Still Seeking Samantha
I was wondering how long it would take before someone blamed this on "religion" as a concept rather than this religion. No one would agree that these witch-doctors are tantamount to the Salvation Army, since they are both motivated by "religion". I remember soon after the 911 attacks hearing atheist talk show guests on Wisconsin Public Radio proclaiming that "religion" was to blame for killing all those Americans. If we could just remove "religion" from human societies, we could finally achieve a Utopia.
I'd be inclined to say this is what primitive superstition and witchcraft do to people. And the Chinese thing just leaves me speechless ...
boulders and sticks
Occupation: Astronaut and Juggler
TO ANY ADVANCED BEING.
STICK YOUR SHIP INTO WARP DRIVE AND DO NOT EVER THINK ABOUT COMING TO THIS VERY, VERY SICK PLACE. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LEARN HERE. EXCEPT WE ARE COMPLETE FUCK HEADS!!!
Cheers John
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Mark that link is the most disturbing thing i have ever seen.
STICK YOUR SHIP INTO WARP DRIVE AND DO NOT EVER THINK ABOUT COMING TO THIS VERY, VERY SICK PLACE. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LEARN HERE. EXCEPT WE ARE COMPLETE FUCK HEADS!!!
Cheers John
ps
Mark that link is the most disturbing thing i have ever seen.
David Biedny
Paranormal Adept
A Utopia, no, but would it perhaps lessen the number of people who must die for the sake of a faceless God? It would be worth a shot. Organized religion has had thousands of years to leave an impression, we've seen what it's resulted in, so maybe it's time to try something else. Like reason and logic, for example.
I know, a little radical, but my own experience with religion and those devoted to it, is a little less than positive, so that's the reality of my tunnel. Your own vision may vary.
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DamnDirtyApe
Skilled Investigator
I was wondering how long it would take before someone blamed this on "religion" as a concept rather than this religion. No one would agree that these witch-doctors are tantamount to the Salvation Army, since they are both motivated by "religion". I remember soon after the 911 attacks hearing atheist talk show guests on Wisconsin Public Radio proclaiming that "religion" was to blame for killing all those Americans. If we could just remove "religion" from human societies, we could finally achieve a Utopia.
I'd be inclined to say this is what primitive superstition and witchcraft do to people. And the Chinese thing just leaves me speechless ...
Stalin, Mao, Pol-Pot etc. prove that the absence of religion has no effect on mass murder and the evil that men do. Were guys like Genghis Khan or Hitler motivated by religion? For every " holy warrior" type like Saladin in history there are 5 more Mugabes or Kim Jung ils who just loved the money and power they aquire and who kill and torture enemies simply for pleasure or to instill fear.
Sure some of these tyrants used religion tangentially as a manipulation tool, but core religious fever was not the prime motivator. Religion is only one part of the formula than contributes to culture clashes and I think it's often a scapegoat thrown up to hide other things (ie Ireland vs England etc). I think if religion never existed, man would have invented something else to manipulate and control the masses and we'd end up with the same sort of world.
jpw.in.wi
Still Seeking Samantha
Great post, DDA!
I just got through watching the heart-wrenching story of Katie Piper on 20/20, and it made me think of this thread.
Katie was raped by a piece of human filth named Daniel Lynch (left), and It later had another pile of excrement named Stefan Sylvestre (right) calmly walk up to Katie on a North London street and throw sulfuric acid in her face.
This is what she looks like today after over 40 surgical procedures and untold physical, emotional, and spiritual agony:
During the report, Katie's parents said that she now has a general fear of men. After the atrocity committed against her, certainly NO ONE can blame her for that!
But would any of us here then feel justified in using this crime against Katie to say, "If it weren't for men, this never would have happened! We've seen what men have done to women over thousands of years. Maybe it's time to get radical and imagine a world without men."
Or how about, "If England were still an all-white country, this crime never would have happened. Everyone knows the track record of crime and violence that exists in areas where non-whites collect. Let's get radical and imagine an England without those coloreds."
There are people who would argue BOTH of those positions, and that's because either they are too stupid or too bigoted to come to terms with the fact that they are operating under one of the most fundamental logical fallacies--or they've got some major baggage they really need to deal with. However, when it comes to "religion" ...
(By the way, Katie sited one of the few 'positive' things that resulted from her suffering was that she now looks beyond surface appearances to find the truth about who a person is, on the inside; and she now has faith in God and a greater sense of what our purpose for being here in the first place is--before, she was wrapped up in herself, in appearances, and in the hollow attractions of our materialistic world.)
Again, just some thoughts, for whatever little they're worth.