Jose Collado said:
I wonder how western nations would cope if they had their support resources cut. No welfare, unemployment benefits, social security, medical benefits etc. All of which are generally methods of relief in a sense. Take a look at the social chaos surrounding natural disasters. Hurricane Katrina is a great example (sorry to drum that up). Cut the resources people rely on and relief and then everything goes to shit. You essentially have a situation that people in developing nations have to deal with for prolonged periods.
I guess the difference between people today and our ancestry is, back then people had the skills to survive because they relied on their own knowledge. Today, we rely on others to keep food in our stomachs and a roof over our head. Back then it was a necessity with no safety net.
What you're talking about, and what I am talking about are two different things entirely.
Nobody is entitled to life at someone else's expense. Developing nations should be developing on their own without the meddling of outsiders who are doing nothing but keeping them down, and taking their material wealth. Do you think that people are helping out Africa out of the goodness of their heart? Sorry, but there's all kinds of money to be made, and all kinds of natural resources to exploit, and the people who live there are an inconvenience to those who want to take everything for themselves.
Leaving Africa to develop on its own, will be a VERY good thing. Here's why.
When someone is forced to take care of themselves, the either succeed, or fail. Failure is a deterrent to laziness. If it wasn't then everyone would be sitting on their collective behinds and nothing would get done in the world. There are penalties for stupidity, ignorance, laziness, and dependence. Those penalties should indeed be painful.
Letting indigenous people evolve socially and economically on their own is a good thing. Because in a thousand years, they'll either be up where everyone else is, or extinct. Humanity has been factoring out the weak, sick, stupid, and irresponsible for millenia and there's no reason to stop now.
The stuff you're talking about, are things that people have WORKED AND PAID FOR. Which is significantly different than the situation in Africa where people are going through the motions, learning, and finding themselves impeded by either their own people, government, or some greedy bastard keeping them dumbed down.
You have no idea the differences between the modern world, and the third world. I've been to both and I know why things are different. People by and large do things out of necessity. If there's no need to grow food, they don't. If there's no need to build, they don't. If there's no disease, there's no need to prepare for it. For God's sake we have people living no differently in the jungles of South America than they did 10,000 years ago. Living in trees, and with no written language. Do they really need to be brought up? Do they really need to become shackled like the rest of humanity? To me, that's real freedom, and a real paradise.
Then along comes some guy who sees these people living like they just strolled out of a cave, and says, They need to be like me. They need education. They need money. They need to be just like the rest of the world. Sorry, but that doesn't do anything other than create a false value system for the primitive people to follow. Everything that we are as a species and a people come from necessity. It's when you have abstract thought, imagination, and ingenuity that you see progress, and by telling them how to do everything, we deny them the learning process.
Why would I need to grow crops if I've got people from the peace corps coming in and doing it for me? Why would I need to learn how to build something, when I've got people coming in to do it for me? Why would I need to learn about harnessing my natural resources if someone else is going to do it for me?
People are primates. They act like primates when they are put in a primitive situation. The notion of civilization is a joke. What we do to people in the name of progress is an abomination.
