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pixelsmith
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i have never heard of them tipping on end. that would explain the descriptions of them being square or rectangle shaped at times.
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Black Triangles
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Raevenskye
Seer of All Things Spooky
pixelsmith said:
maybe...except that we only saw it do that once, and it was point up, still triangular shaped, and then just...lowered flat... that might have even been the first time we saw them. I remember it was being tailed by a chase plane that time. Afterwards, the chase planes and helicopters were a little further behind. It's funny, but it almost seems like on other sightings, the weren't there, then they were. I don't remember ever seeing them morph after that first one.
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pixelsmith
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the object i saw recently was also being followed by a small jet. the local airport said they had nothing in the air where i was during this event. the local FAA didnt want to talk to me about it.
knichol5
A Created Universe
Raevenskye et al.,Raevenskye said:
Anyone else use Greer's meditation techniques to "allow" for alien contact?
My experience was mixed: mind pictures of aliens, and then my first (only) shadow person experience (was not alarmed). Yet another experience (mind - vibrational) with a malevolent entity took prayer to rid this terrible experience. Perhaps entities piggyback such mind exercises?
Nevertheless, my greatest UFO interest is the power drives that allow for such transport if such craft (regarding alien origin) do indeed exist. Thanks for your observations.
Aaron LeClair
Paranormal Maven
Raevenskye said:
No way. Someone from my city. Odd, there's been quite a few NCers here. I never came across so many elsewhere on the net.
I've dealt with reports of triangles in our area.
Feel free to send me a personal message here at the site if you want. I can maybe share some info. with you. I see you are into sky watching. I did some years ago, but haven't in awhile. If you are part of a sky watch group I might be interested in joining in. If you're looking for members that is.
Aaron LeClair
Paranormal Maven
Raevenskye said:
Did some, or all of your sightings happen in Charlotte? I don't recall you giving a city other than what MUFON said in regards to I-85. What college did one (or however many) of your sightings take place at?
Tom Levine
Skilled Investigator
Friend or Foe?
NoAnswers: Excellent tip on the news article! Fear of ridicule, I suspect, keep a lot of people away from reporting their experiences. I think the professor provides very little insight into the encounter. Not all astronomers respond that way. It's interesting that he teaches three disciplines. I looked up Black Hawk College. It's a community college. Nothing wrong with that, unless you're a reporter looking for some solid experience in the field of anomalous flying structures in the sky. Not sure planet-boy from Black Hawk was the right person to go to. And, by the way, yes that does fit the regional connection I'm reporting on...The Heartland is certainly no stranger to UFO's these days, is it? That seems to be an important insight into this phenomenon, most definitely. If you see any more news reports, please send me a link or post it on the forums. I'd love to catalog it for a future date! Good find, N.A..!
Raevensky: Welcome to the forums, and thank you for sharing your incredible encounter(s) with us.
Pixelsmith: Hi there! RE: morphing craft, go check out Part 2 on my blog. There's a huge piece of testimony in there from QM4, along with graphics and my analysis. It's absolutely riveting, I agree.
To both of you, I'm not sure if I suggested this before, and if I did I apologize, but please consider reporting your sightings to NUFORC. Make your sightings part of this database, so that it can be researched and studied. It's never too late to do that.
A.LeClair: I've gotten quite a few emails from North Carolina. It is definitely getting its share of sightings. One particular contact I had struck me as an extremely compelling witness. I may get the opportunity, down the road, to conduct some telephone interviews with her, her husband, and her daughter, and possibly some neighbors. I find those types of cases, where you have multiple witnesses, and especially including non-family members, to be absolutely compelling. It would be the next step for me in this process, and I have to decide whether or not to move forward, but I may be just too curious and diving in too deep to say no. In any event, this particular individual is from North Carolina.
By the way Raevensky, the next report on my blog will feature several reports involving military activity on the 2-19-07 through 2-22-07 time period. From strictly an evidenciary perspective, it's anyones' guess what we may be doing, if we are doing anything at all, relating to this phenomenon. If the triangles are ours, than that part of the riddle can be easily solved I would think. But if the triangles are not ours, than the military component begs the question: Are they friend, or foe? I wonder.
Sincerely, Tom
NoAnswers: Excellent tip on the news article! Fear of ridicule, I suspect, keep a lot of people away from reporting their experiences. I think the professor provides very little insight into the encounter. Not all astronomers respond that way. It's interesting that he teaches three disciplines. I looked up Black Hawk College. It's a community college. Nothing wrong with that, unless you're a reporter looking for some solid experience in the field of anomalous flying structures in the sky. Not sure planet-boy from Black Hawk was the right person to go to. And, by the way, yes that does fit the regional connection I'm reporting on...The Heartland is certainly no stranger to UFO's these days, is it? That seems to be an important insight into this phenomenon, most definitely. If you see any more news reports, please send me a link or post it on the forums. I'd love to catalog it for a future date! Good find, N.A..!
Raevensky: Welcome to the forums, and thank you for sharing your incredible encounter(s) with us.
Pixelsmith: Hi there! RE: morphing craft, go check out Part 2 on my blog. There's a huge piece of testimony in there from QM4, along with graphics and my analysis. It's absolutely riveting, I agree.
To both of you, I'm not sure if I suggested this before, and if I did I apologize, but please consider reporting your sightings to NUFORC. Make your sightings part of this database, so that it can be researched and studied. It's never too late to do that.
A.LeClair: I've gotten quite a few emails from North Carolina. It is definitely getting its share of sightings. One particular contact I had struck me as an extremely compelling witness. I may get the opportunity, down the road, to conduct some telephone interviews with her, her husband, and her daughter, and possibly some neighbors. I find those types of cases, where you have multiple witnesses, and especially including non-family members, to be absolutely compelling. It would be the next step for me in this process, and I have to decide whether or not to move forward, but I may be just too curious and diving in too deep to say no. In any event, this particular individual is from North Carolina.
By the way Raevensky, the next report on my blog will feature several reports involving military activity on the 2-19-07 through 2-22-07 time period. From strictly an evidenciary perspective, it's anyones' guess what we may be doing, if we are doing anything at all, relating to this phenomenon. If the triangles are ours, than that part of the riddle can be easily solved I would think. But if the triangles are not ours, than the military component begs the question: Are they friend, or foe? I wonder.
Sincerely, Tom
RavensRock
Paranormal Novice
In New York along the Canadian border they use Black Triangle UAVs full size vehicles....
This is for Illegal entry and drug running prevention...
In Pine Bush NY..."Hudson Valley UFOs" of the 80s...this phenomena was still going on when I went there in 1996...We parked at the Jewish Cemetery driveway and first saw 3 big white lights over the field across the highway...As they came closer there were now only 2 white lights...one came right up to telephone pole just above it approx. 100-150 ft. high and inside this white light was a small reddish light...this white ball light (huge) was completely silent...Then instantly this light turned into a Black Triangle that was now over us at Treetop level and it was extremely loud....across the cemetery the other white light paced this Triangle over us which moved extremely slow...giving us complete "tingling" feeling on our entire bodies...which lasted a day....
This Triangle had 3 white... lights One in each corner...it had under it a projectile ball (size of VW bug) like black mesh looking, we could see thru it...and the underside of this Triangle was all this marking or tubing of sorts...
This is for Illegal entry and drug running prevention...
In Pine Bush NY..."Hudson Valley UFOs" of the 80s...this phenomena was still going on when I went there in 1996...We parked at the Jewish Cemetery driveway and first saw 3 big white lights over the field across the highway...As they came closer there were now only 2 white lights...one came right up to telephone pole just above it approx. 100-150 ft. high and inside this white light was a small reddish light...this white ball light (huge) was completely silent...Then instantly this light turned into a Black Triangle that was now over us at Treetop level and it was extremely loud....across the cemetery the other white light paced this Triangle over us which moved extremely slow...giving us complete "tingling" feeling on our entire bodies...which lasted a day....
This Triangle had 3 white... lights One in each corner...it had under it a projectile ball (size of VW bug) like black mesh looking, we could see thru it...and the underside of this Triangle was all this marking or tubing of sorts...
Tom Levine
Skilled Investigator
RavensRock said:
RavensRock, welcome to theparacast forums:
Interesting sighting. This would speak to the question posed, with regard to "why" DOD would build such a craft. I think the idea of a full-sized UAV is absolutely as possible as the ET explanation, especially with what you described. Several technologies exist right now, which would explain many aspect of your sighting. I'm not saying that's what they are, but UAV certainly do exist, so, I can see why you are drawing those conclusions. I'm also scratching my head about other factors of your sighting, but I find myself doing that alot lately
Welcome. Sincerely, Tom.
RavensRock
Paranormal Novice
tomlevine1 said:RavensRock, welcome to theparacast forums:
Interesting sighting. This would speak to the question posed, with regard to "why" DOD would build such a craft. I think the idea of a full-sized UAV is absolutely as possible as the ET explanation, especially with what you described. Several technologies exist right now, which would explain many aspect of your sighting. I'm not saying that's what they are, but UAV certainly do exist, so, I can see why you are drawing those conclusions. I'm also scratching my head about other factors of your sighting, but I find myself doing that alot lately
Welcome. Sincerely, Tom.
On the UAV along Canadian Border ..thats one craft...but what we saw in PineBush NY was a different type of craft...the corners of the Triangle were rounded, the sides you could see depth..and the white ball of light that turned into the Triangle I know is "they bend light" to protect seeing the vehicle which itself it cool as hell..The Tingling effect we felt would have been from electromagnetic energy from the craft...
Now, that were in Texas...My daughter is an RN in Houston...one night going to work here...she saw a Black Triangle flying treetop level right in the city...it was going along the "Buffalo Bayou." wavering as it went along the curve of the small waterway....This was completely silent...
Also..
My friend who lives in Missouri City outside Houston..saw a Black Triangle going along the waterway (bayou) behind his home just above telephone poles completely silent...
I half think this is some sort of Triangle used to check out enviromental concerns that they use....or to do with power companys ...in past they'd use
4 wheelers to go along power areas and check things out...now maybe its this Black Triangle ...
Raevenskye
Seer of All Things Spooky
Aa I recall, the whole triangle incident kicked off with what my roomie and I thought was a plane going down. We were on a country road headed back to the city when we saw a low-flying aircraft. We acutally followed it, b/c we thought it was plane crashing. Then it abruptly changed directions, and flew off! We were stunned. I called the airport to see if there were any reports of anything weird, and as expected, they laughed me off. After that, the triangles started to appear.
knichol5: I haven't used any method of meditation to try to make contact. The sightings came with all kinds of dreams, and weirdness. I got to the point where I just wanted to forget the scary parts.
As far as shadow people go: I see them all the time. A lot of people think they're "evil", but I don't. In fact, if I see a spirit, it's usally grey, or dark..not the traditional "Casper-white"! Sometimes, they look like a transparent fully-clothed person.
I DO believe that once you open a door, it works both ways: you send out energy, and it acts like a beacon to bring energy back. It's not always good energy. I'm by no means a beleiver that everything is demonic, however!
knichol5: I haven't used any method of meditation to try to make contact. The sightings came with all kinds of dreams, and weirdness. I got to the point where I just wanted to forget the scary parts.
As far as shadow people go: I see them all the time. A lot of people think they're "evil", but I don't. In fact, if I see a spirit, it's usally grey, or dark..not the traditional "Casper-white"! Sometimes, they look like a transparent fully-clothed person.
I DO believe that once you open a door, it works both ways: you send out energy, and it acts like a beacon to bring energy back. It's not always good energy. I'm by no means a beleiver that everything is demonic, however!
Aaron LeClair
Paranormal Maven
Friend or Foe?
Yes, NC has a high amount of ufo reports. Back when I was in MUFON we were ranked 5 out of all the states. However, most of the sightings weren't anything special. We have a lot of bad - mediocre cases. Triangle sightings are relatively common in the area however.
tomlevine1 said:
Yes, NC has a high amount of ufo reports. Back when I was in MUFON we were ranked 5 out of all the states. However, most of the sightings weren't anything special. We have a lot of bad - mediocre cases. Triangle sightings are relatively common in the area however.
Tom Levine
Skilled Investigator
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Great forum! Fascinating stuff.
Apologies if someone has already mentioned this, but there's a program on the Travel Channel regarding the Jan. 2000, Illinois triangle sightings.
Here is a link with date / times:
http://travel.discovery.com/tv-listings-1234/0/23008/0/TRV.shtml
Apologies if someone has already mentioned this, but there's a program on the Travel Channel regarding the Jan. 2000, Illinois triangle sightings.
Here is a link with date / times:
http://travel.discovery.com/tv-listings-1234/0/23008/0/TRV.shtml
Aaron LeClair
Paranormal Maven
macriver said:
Yeah, I saw the show awhile back. Good to see they are still running it.
Noanswers
Skilled Investigator
It looks like the US isn't the only place the triangles have been appearing this winter/spring. While the American Chronicle has posted some rather questionable things, this might be a good jumping off point to look at triangle reports north of the border.
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=23096
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=23096
So, I've been loosely following the whole Black Triangle thing for a number of years. I've never seen one, just read the stuff on the net. I have no professional qualifications whatsoever...just a sci-fi nerd. I thought it would be fun to just write down some of the questions that have occurred to me over the years in regards to the subject. Some of these questions and speculations are probably silly, impractical, impossible but maybe they will trigger a better question or idea on your part. If by some chance I happen to have hit on something accurate, well, I'm not the one who decided to go fly them around w/ the lights on.
For this exercise I'm laying down the basic assumption that they are in fact a classified aircraft that is operated by either a branch of the U.S. military or at least something loosely connected to it. I can't completely rule out an ETH here but if I include aliens the speculation will go too far afield to make this exercise practical. There is no logical end to the speculation of potential possibilities in the case of an ETH. With humans we can make semi-educated guesses.
I'll restrict speculation to the recent Big Black Deltas...ie. the really huge ones, mostly seen in low and slow flight w/ the big lights, mostly seen from mid to late 1980's until present. Small triangles, triangles from ufo reports of the 1960's etc, or high altitude triangles are arbitrarily omitted for this speculation exercise. I'm also a bit lazy so I haven't really gone back and re-examined all the sightings reports etc. Some of my recollections of these reports are probably a bit off. Feel free to correct me if you have documentation handy.
Performance
1. Why so large?
2. Rigid dirigible is easiest explanation. A non-lighter-than-air craft of this size likely requires Star Trek technology.
3. Speculation of heavy lift cargo airship. This would have many practical applications.
4. If not pure heavy lift purpose it could be a multi-purpose platform w/ different roles. Might make an ideal platform for different communications, surveillance systems. An airship of this size could likely pack as many electronic systems, computers, radars, telescopes as you could possibly want.
5. Could the size simply be a function of a novel propulsion mechanism...ala Ionocraft type EHD propulsion or something similar combined w/ lighter than air lift? Take a look at Ionocraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Interested parties might be able to work out some rough estimations on what performance specs might be using the listed calculations and witness reports of BBD size.
6. Seems like 90%+ sightings reports are of hovering or low and slow motion. Some much smaller percentage, including 2000 Illinois case describe I believe 1-2 bursts of very fast horizontal travel. I'm not aware of any reports describing high speed 90 degree turns, falling leaf descents, or other highly erratic flight patterns.
7. Only radar case I'm aware of is from Belgium. Ground radar reports of low and slow flight. One F-16 radar lock but the pilot did not have a simultaneous visual. Second F-16 not equipped with radar? Colonel De Brouwer's press briefing I believe use the F-16 radar report to state a calculated acceleration of "30-40g". Could the F-16 radar be spoofed by some stealth technology? While there were thousands of eye witnesses in Belgium over a long periods of time, I believe most of these were of the "low and slow" type reports. Unsure how many claimed visual on high speed flight.
8. Impressed w/ the amount of work put into Sigma Animation's 3D modeling recreation of the 2000 Illinois case. I don't recall them ever stating any estimations on the high speed bursts which strikes me as odd. One witness I believe thought ~6 miles covered in ~3-4 seconds.
9. Is it possible that optical illusions of some sort are used to give the impression of high speed? Some speculation on various stealth/camo techniques employed such as cameras filming topside and projecting a sky image onto bottom of fuselage and vice versa? Could large lights be used for visual references for ground observers and then manipulated in such a way as to promote impresson that the craft was smaller/farther away than it actually is?
10. If craft of this size can actually move that fast, regardless of power source and propulsion system, it would displace an incredible amount of air unless there were some additional technical solution to this, ala NIDS "air spike" theory. Tech for eliminating sonic booms on high speed air craft is discussed in mainstream science mags. I believe there was some discussion of electrical methods of ionizing air in front of craft and such. Even if possible it would seem that high speed flight at such low altitudes would create enormous ground effects and air disturbances in the vicinity? Are high speed bursts accompanied by disturbed trees, dust? Do high speed bursts occur over open fields, forests, buildings, etc?
11. If craft speed is an optical illusion, possibly combined with technology to spoof radar returns, power source and propulsion could be entirely low tech, such as propellers hidden in fuselage, well muffled diesel engines or generators, batteries, possibly some additional noise reduction technology. Suggestions of tethered power source seem highly impractical and defeat much of the advantages of a heavy lift blimp. Suggestions of remote microwave power source are interesting but would also seem to defeat the many advantages of a large autonomous heavy lift blimp.
12. Fouche's TR3-B claim included nuclear powerplant combined with other advanced Star Trek technology, ala plasma based Magnetic Field Disruptor. This claim seems at odds with large numbers of operations over populated areas. Some speculation that the bright lights were a novel way of venting the reactor's unused heat, possibly active in low and slow flight and then dimmed during high speed when more power is required? I have no idea if this makes practical sense or not. May not be convential lights per se but some device that emits visible light as a side effect. Reports that lights do not illuminate ground as a spotlight would.
13. As sightings dates/times/locations are known, what are moonlight and weather conditions like? Should be easy enough to Google this kind of data after the event. Are these things operated only on still, moonless nights or are they operated during high winds and a full moon? Surface area of the cross section would seem to make it vulnerable to high winds if it is a conventional airship.
14. UFO researchers are the primary trackers of BBD sightings. If classified DOD craft it could be easy to spike the sightings databases w/ reports that include innacurate locations, visual characteristics, flight behavior, etc in order to alter perception of true capabilities. Probably wiser to speculate on what is known from specific, documented cases rather than semi-anonymous reports which may include outright attempts to poison the well.
15. I believe all known sightings reports are from the ground. I don't recall any sightings reports that have seen the topside from other aircraft or from tall buildings. Belgian F-16s never had visual contact w/ the BBD.
16. Some witnesses report buzzing, humming, "transformer-like" sound. One Illinois witness reported sound like well-tuned V8 engine at 40 feet. Sound could be result of power source, propulsion, some secondary system or net result of some noise-suppresion technology. It is not difficult to make internal combustion engines or generators very quiet, especially at 500 feet or farther.
Regardless of any speculations on exotic technology and even if this is just a clever package of conventional technology the really enormous question is why is a classified craft being operated in a semi-public manner?
1. Large numbers of operations in a semi-public, non-stealthed manner. Semi-public meaning that obviously they are not flying over Central Park at noon or over football games. Operating in such a manner could likely produce real deaths in the forms of car crashes, trampling etc.
2. Large numbers of sightings over somewhat populated areas, freeways etc. I believe all or nearly all sightings are at night.
3. Two possibilities: Craft is either in a testing phase or in an operational phase.
4. DOD has enormous amount of controlled airspace. They could test flight performance to their hearts content in Nevada etc with little to no risk of observation. What would testing a system like this outside of controlled airspace give you that a place like Nellis doesn't have?
5. Controlled desert airspace doesn't have: lots of urban buildings, the general public, freeways with traffic, etc. Perhaps testing systems or mission types that demand real-world environments? Highly unusual.
6. To my knowledge it has never even been hinted at that this craft has run missions in real conflicts, ie. Desert Storm, Serbia-Kosovo, current Iraq conflict. I would think that if it was in use in hostile conflicts there would be rumors floating around on the net from the various military gossip type sites. I recall at least one F-117 being shot down in Serbia which was probably a much more difficult task than hitting something like this. Something this large, low and slow would seem extremly vulnerable to almost any kind of weapon you could imagine in hostile territory. Unless it truly can maintain Star Trek type flight characteristics full time and/or react instantly and/or has some kind of super force field it would seem trivial to locate with ground spotters and use machine guns, artillery, anti-aircraft, RPGs, whatever against it. This may suggest that it is not designed for use in hostile territory or that it is somehow still in a testing phase that demands operation in an area that, while somewhat public, doesn't contain jihadis with light artillery.
7. One site had speculation that this was a reconnaissance/spotter craft for B2 bombers, designed to locate Russian train based missile platforms. I might be wrong but this seems to be a highly vulnerable, clumsy package for such a task unless of course it has all kinds of Star Trek type tech, which, once again, seems at odds with semi-public operations over small towns.
8. I don't immediately recall any sightings outside the continental US other than the ones in Belgium. I may be wrong on this point but keep in mind I'm only considering the BBD that are mostly low and slow and have the enormous lights. Seems like the first major reports were from Belgium. If this is a DOD craft it seems odd that it would be seen first in Belgium rather than the US where the DOD would likely have much more control over the media, law enforcement, FAA etc.
9. Seems like there are two choices here: Either the operators want the craft to be observed, seemingly by a relatively small population of potential observers or they have no choice, ie. if it is performing a mission that is of such value that it must occur whether observed or not. Again, they are not hovering over football games.
10. What's w/ the lights? I believe even Apache pilots do fast tree-top flight with no lights, using only night-vision. If this is a stealth craft why wouldn't they use the same techniques? Bright lights and stealth do not go together. Could be that the lights are some inevitable side effect of the power, propulsion or other on board system? They may not have a choice about the lights?
11. Lighting lends weight to idea that they want it to be observed. Why? Undoubtedly foreign military services keep an eye on UFO reports. Are these operations designed to convey disinfo of some type to other military powers? Are we trying to hoax other military forces into believing that we have a big ace up our sleeve? Perhaps they are spectacular distractions designed to attract attention in one location while something more innocuous looking but more important happens elsewhere? Insert favorite theory of spook psyops on the general public here.
12. Lighting may be part of some optical illusion/camo system. If testing such a system they may need to attract attention then analyze sightings reports by average people to get a true idea of effectiveness. Testing such a system w/ military observers on a secret airbase might not provide real-world data.
13. Either the operators are supremely confident of the safety of the platform or they have no choice about flying it in the open. They don't seem to mind the possibility that some yokel with a deer rifle might start shooting at them. They seem to feel that the possibility of a critical accident or crash is either non-existant or nearly so, that such a crash wouldn't matter(unlikely due to press coverage if crashing in a populated area) or, once again, that the mission priority is high enough to warrant the risk regardless of compromised secrecy and political fallout.
14. Obviously if Fouche was right about a nuclear powerplant then the political fallout from floating a reactor, no matter how safe it might be, would be untenable. If non-nuclear but using some kind of novel propulsion like an Ionocraft's EHD method that produces lots of carcinogenic ozone there would be all kinds of inquiries into the environmental safety of the platform. Were there any reports of an ozone or other strange smell? Clearly you would want to keep it classified if it had exotic or unusual tech but this again begs the question of why it is displayed openly.
What would you use such a craft for?
1. Possible roles: Heavy lift transport? Sensor platform? Spectacular distraction/disinfo/psyops? Join the Air Force: "We're Wicked Cool!" recruiting campaign?
2. What kind of heavy lifting would you want to do within the United States that couldn't be more practically and safely accomplished by truck or train? Things that don't fit onto trucks or trains? Other secret aircraft? Giant machinery that, if observed, might reveal other classified projects? Nukes? Nuclear waste? Large quantities of outbound illegal arm and inbound illegal drugs ala Iran-Contra? If you wanted to move nukes around, a platform like this might actually be much safer than by truck or train from an accident, hijacking perspective. Material transport to/from existing or under construction secret bases where a convoy of semi's would draw attention from the locals?
3. Is it possible that this might be an ideal method for shuffling strategic assets around? It might be resistant to ground and satellite observation from foreign powers. A transport method that is a clever variation on the shell game? Is it possible that the craft is operating in a stealth mode but that it is stealthed from above rather than below? Projecting an image of the ground below onto it's topside in order to resist showing up on satellite images? Such a platform could move around mobile ICBM launching systems and drop them off in all kinds of random locations inaccessible to trucks and trains.
4. Someone pointed out that reconnaissance platforms are trending towards the small these days. This is true but if this is a 20-30 years old platform the computers, batteries, miniature electronics common to the latest small UAVs did not exist in the early 80's. If this is the same thing that was in Belgium in 1989 then you would guess development must have started no later than the early 1980s. Also, the sheer size of this platform means you could include an enormous amount of sensor systems that would not be possible on a small UAV.
5. Would this make a good mobile communications relay platform? Radar platform? Some kind of surface mapping platform? Ground penetrating radar? What kinds of sensor systems/electronics could you put in a giant heavy lifting platform that could hover over the treetops that would not be better served in a conventional aircraft or from a satellite? Could you go around w/ a giant X-ray type machine looking inside of buildings?
6. What kind of clever things could you do w/ electronics if you had 2 or 3 of these things flying in a big formation?
7. Someone suggested this was being used for border control and drug interdiction. This strikes me as somewhat improbable. If it was doing that kind of duty full time it seems like the cartels would know it by now and this kind of info would be out on the net to a much greater degree than it is.
8.On the weird side, something like this would be super platform for abducting cattle...much better suited than a helicopter I would think.
9. The NIDS guess that it is being used for transport between existing military bases seems possible but it begs the question what you would be transporting that you couldn't just stick under a tarp on the back of a truck. If it were something super-secret you would think it would be stuck out in the desert in a controlled space ...not moving around to standard military bases.
So, lots of questions. No real answers. Any of these speculations seem likely to you?
For this exercise I'm laying down the basic assumption that they are in fact a classified aircraft that is operated by either a branch of the U.S. military or at least something loosely connected to it. I can't completely rule out an ETH here but if I include aliens the speculation will go too far afield to make this exercise practical. There is no logical end to the speculation of potential possibilities in the case of an ETH. With humans we can make semi-educated guesses.
I'll restrict speculation to the recent Big Black Deltas...ie. the really huge ones, mostly seen in low and slow flight w/ the big lights, mostly seen from mid to late 1980's until present. Small triangles, triangles from ufo reports of the 1960's etc, or high altitude triangles are arbitrarily omitted for this speculation exercise. I'm also a bit lazy so I haven't really gone back and re-examined all the sightings reports etc. Some of my recollections of these reports are probably a bit off. Feel free to correct me if you have documentation handy.
Performance
1. Why so large?
2. Rigid dirigible is easiest explanation. A non-lighter-than-air craft of this size likely requires Star Trek technology.
3. Speculation of heavy lift cargo airship. This would have many practical applications.
4. If not pure heavy lift purpose it could be a multi-purpose platform w/ different roles. Might make an ideal platform for different communications, surveillance systems. An airship of this size could likely pack as many electronic systems, computers, radars, telescopes as you could possibly want.
5. Could the size simply be a function of a novel propulsion mechanism...ala Ionocraft type EHD propulsion or something similar combined w/ lighter than air lift? Take a look at Ionocraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Interested parties might be able to work out some rough estimations on what performance specs might be using the listed calculations and witness reports of BBD size.
6. Seems like 90%+ sightings reports are of hovering or low and slow motion. Some much smaller percentage, including 2000 Illinois case describe I believe 1-2 bursts of very fast horizontal travel. I'm not aware of any reports describing high speed 90 degree turns, falling leaf descents, or other highly erratic flight patterns.
7. Only radar case I'm aware of is from Belgium. Ground radar reports of low and slow flight. One F-16 radar lock but the pilot did not have a simultaneous visual. Second F-16 not equipped with radar? Colonel De Brouwer's press briefing I believe use the F-16 radar report to state a calculated acceleration of "30-40g". Could the F-16 radar be spoofed by some stealth technology? While there were thousands of eye witnesses in Belgium over a long periods of time, I believe most of these were of the "low and slow" type reports. Unsure how many claimed visual on high speed flight.
8. Impressed w/ the amount of work put into Sigma Animation's 3D modeling recreation of the 2000 Illinois case. I don't recall them ever stating any estimations on the high speed bursts which strikes me as odd. One witness I believe thought ~6 miles covered in ~3-4 seconds.
9. Is it possible that optical illusions of some sort are used to give the impression of high speed? Some speculation on various stealth/camo techniques employed such as cameras filming topside and projecting a sky image onto bottom of fuselage and vice versa? Could large lights be used for visual references for ground observers and then manipulated in such a way as to promote impresson that the craft was smaller/farther away than it actually is?
10. If craft of this size can actually move that fast, regardless of power source and propulsion system, it would displace an incredible amount of air unless there were some additional technical solution to this, ala NIDS "air spike" theory. Tech for eliminating sonic booms on high speed air craft is discussed in mainstream science mags. I believe there was some discussion of electrical methods of ionizing air in front of craft and such. Even if possible it would seem that high speed flight at such low altitudes would create enormous ground effects and air disturbances in the vicinity? Are high speed bursts accompanied by disturbed trees, dust? Do high speed bursts occur over open fields, forests, buildings, etc?
11. If craft speed is an optical illusion, possibly combined with technology to spoof radar returns, power source and propulsion could be entirely low tech, such as propellers hidden in fuselage, well muffled diesel engines or generators, batteries, possibly some additional noise reduction technology. Suggestions of tethered power source seem highly impractical and defeat much of the advantages of a heavy lift blimp. Suggestions of remote microwave power source are interesting but would also seem to defeat the many advantages of a large autonomous heavy lift blimp.
12. Fouche's TR3-B claim included nuclear powerplant combined with other advanced Star Trek technology, ala plasma based Magnetic Field Disruptor. This claim seems at odds with large numbers of operations over populated areas. Some speculation that the bright lights were a novel way of venting the reactor's unused heat, possibly active in low and slow flight and then dimmed during high speed when more power is required? I have no idea if this makes practical sense or not. May not be convential lights per se but some device that emits visible light as a side effect. Reports that lights do not illuminate ground as a spotlight would.
13. As sightings dates/times/locations are known, what are moonlight and weather conditions like? Should be easy enough to Google this kind of data after the event. Are these things operated only on still, moonless nights or are they operated during high winds and a full moon? Surface area of the cross section would seem to make it vulnerable to high winds if it is a conventional airship.
14. UFO researchers are the primary trackers of BBD sightings. If classified DOD craft it could be easy to spike the sightings databases w/ reports that include innacurate locations, visual characteristics, flight behavior, etc in order to alter perception of true capabilities. Probably wiser to speculate on what is known from specific, documented cases rather than semi-anonymous reports which may include outright attempts to poison the well.
15. I believe all known sightings reports are from the ground. I don't recall any sightings reports that have seen the topside from other aircraft or from tall buildings. Belgian F-16s never had visual contact w/ the BBD.
16. Some witnesses report buzzing, humming, "transformer-like" sound. One Illinois witness reported sound like well-tuned V8 engine at 40 feet. Sound could be result of power source, propulsion, some secondary system or net result of some noise-suppresion technology. It is not difficult to make internal combustion engines or generators very quiet, especially at 500 feet or farther.
Regardless of any speculations on exotic technology and even if this is just a clever package of conventional technology the really enormous question is why is a classified craft being operated in a semi-public manner?
1. Large numbers of operations in a semi-public, non-stealthed manner. Semi-public meaning that obviously they are not flying over Central Park at noon or over football games. Operating in such a manner could likely produce real deaths in the forms of car crashes, trampling etc.
2. Large numbers of sightings over somewhat populated areas, freeways etc. I believe all or nearly all sightings are at night.
3. Two possibilities: Craft is either in a testing phase or in an operational phase.
4. DOD has enormous amount of controlled airspace. They could test flight performance to their hearts content in Nevada etc with little to no risk of observation. What would testing a system like this outside of controlled airspace give you that a place like Nellis doesn't have?
5. Controlled desert airspace doesn't have: lots of urban buildings, the general public, freeways with traffic, etc. Perhaps testing systems or mission types that demand real-world environments? Highly unusual.
6. To my knowledge it has never even been hinted at that this craft has run missions in real conflicts, ie. Desert Storm, Serbia-Kosovo, current Iraq conflict. I would think that if it was in use in hostile conflicts there would be rumors floating around on the net from the various military gossip type sites. I recall at least one F-117 being shot down in Serbia which was probably a much more difficult task than hitting something like this. Something this large, low and slow would seem extremly vulnerable to almost any kind of weapon you could imagine in hostile territory. Unless it truly can maintain Star Trek type flight characteristics full time and/or react instantly and/or has some kind of super force field it would seem trivial to locate with ground spotters and use machine guns, artillery, anti-aircraft, RPGs, whatever against it. This may suggest that it is not designed for use in hostile territory or that it is somehow still in a testing phase that demands operation in an area that, while somewhat public, doesn't contain jihadis with light artillery.
7. One site had speculation that this was a reconnaissance/spotter craft for B2 bombers, designed to locate Russian train based missile platforms. I might be wrong but this seems to be a highly vulnerable, clumsy package for such a task unless of course it has all kinds of Star Trek type tech, which, once again, seems at odds with semi-public operations over small towns.
8. I don't immediately recall any sightings outside the continental US other than the ones in Belgium. I may be wrong on this point but keep in mind I'm only considering the BBD that are mostly low and slow and have the enormous lights. Seems like the first major reports were from Belgium. If this is a DOD craft it seems odd that it would be seen first in Belgium rather than the US where the DOD would likely have much more control over the media, law enforcement, FAA etc.
9. Seems like there are two choices here: Either the operators want the craft to be observed, seemingly by a relatively small population of potential observers or they have no choice, ie. if it is performing a mission that is of such value that it must occur whether observed or not. Again, they are not hovering over football games.
10. What's w/ the lights? I believe even Apache pilots do fast tree-top flight with no lights, using only night-vision. If this is a stealth craft why wouldn't they use the same techniques? Bright lights and stealth do not go together. Could be that the lights are some inevitable side effect of the power, propulsion or other on board system? They may not have a choice about the lights?
11. Lighting lends weight to idea that they want it to be observed. Why? Undoubtedly foreign military services keep an eye on UFO reports. Are these operations designed to convey disinfo of some type to other military powers? Are we trying to hoax other military forces into believing that we have a big ace up our sleeve? Perhaps they are spectacular distractions designed to attract attention in one location while something more innocuous looking but more important happens elsewhere? Insert favorite theory of spook psyops on the general public here.
12. Lighting may be part of some optical illusion/camo system. If testing such a system they may need to attract attention then analyze sightings reports by average people to get a true idea of effectiveness. Testing such a system w/ military observers on a secret airbase might not provide real-world data.
13. Either the operators are supremely confident of the safety of the platform or they have no choice about flying it in the open. They don't seem to mind the possibility that some yokel with a deer rifle might start shooting at them. They seem to feel that the possibility of a critical accident or crash is either non-existant or nearly so, that such a crash wouldn't matter(unlikely due to press coverage if crashing in a populated area) or, once again, that the mission priority is high enough to warrant the risk regardless of compromised secrecy and political fallout.
14. Obviously if Fouche was right about a nuclear powerplant then the political fallout from floating a reactor, no matter how safe it might be, would be untenable. If non-nuclear but using some kind of novel propulsion like an Ionocraft's EHD method that produces lots of carcinogenic ozone there would be all kinds of inquiries into the environmental safety of the platform. Were there any reports of an ozone or other strange smell? Clearly you would want to keep it classified if it had exotic or unusual tech but this again begs the question of why it is displayed openly.
What would you use such a craft for?
1. Possible roles: Heavy lift transport? Sensor platform? Spectacular distraction/disinfo/psyops? Join the Air Force: "We're Wicked Cool!" recruiting campaign?
2. What kind of heavy lifting would you want to do within the United States that couldn't be more practically and safely accomplished by truck or train? Things that don't fit onto trucks or trains? Other secret aircraft? Giant machinery that, if observed, might reveal other classified projects? Nukes? Nuclear waste? Large quantities of outbound illegal arm and inbound illegal drugs ala Iran-Contra? If you wanted to move nukes around, a platform like this might actually be much safer than by truck or train from an accident, hijacking perspective. Material transport to/from existing or under construction secret bases where a convoy of semi's would draw attention from the locals?
3. Is it possible that this might be an ideal method for shuffling strategic assets around? It might be resistant to ground and satellite observation from foreign powers. A transport method that is a clever variation on the shell game? Is it possible that the craft is operating in a stealth mode but that it is stealthed from above rather than below? Projecting an image of the ground below onto it's topside in order to resist showing up on satellite images? Such a platform could move around mobile ICBM launching systems and drop them off in all kinds of random locations inaccessible to trucks and trains.
4. Someone pointed out that reconnaissance platforms are trending towards the small these days. This is true but if this is a 20-30 years old platform the computers, batteries, miniature electronics common to the latest small UAVs did not exist in the early 80's. If this is the same thing that was in Belgium in 1989 then you would guess development must have started no later than the early 1980s. Also, the sheer size of this platform means you could include an enormous amount of sensor systems that would not be possible on a small UAV.
5. Would this make a good mobile communications relay platform? Radar platform? Some kind of surface mapping platform? Ground penetrating radar? What kinds of sensor systems/electronics could you put in a giant heavy lifting platform that could hover over the treetops that would not be better served in a conventional aircraft or from a satellite? Could you go around w/ a giant X-ray type machine looking inside of buildings?
6. What kind of clever things could you do w/ electronics if you had 2 or 3 of these things flying in a big formation?
7. Someone suggested this was being used for border control and drug interdiction. This strikes me as somewhat improbable. If it was doing that kind of duty full time it seems like the cartels would know it by now and this kind of info would be out on the net to a much greater degree than it is.
8.On the weird side, something like this would be super platform for abducting cattle...much better suited than a helicopter I would think.
9. The NIDS guess that it is being used for transport between existing military bases seems possible but it begs the question what you would be transporting that you couldn't just stick under a tarp on the back of a truck. If it were something super-secret you would think it would be stuck out in the desert in a controlled space ...not moving around to standard military bases.
So, lots of questions. No real answers. Any of these speculations seem likely to you?
Tom Levine
Skilled Investigator
Long posts, Canadian Triangles, and Chocolate Sangria!
Hi everyone:
Macriver: Welcome to theparacast forums, and great link!
A.LeClair: I owe you a tasty chocolate Sangria!
NoAnswers: Great article, thanks for the link! It reminds me of some of the RavensRock post regarding his/her experience at the border. It's hard not to see this as a flap going on. Perhaps it's more perception of a flap, than any real change. Perhaps as we all become more focused on triangles, the reports start flowing in. Perhaps it's been going on for some time, and journalists like Brian Vike et al. are just now joining the trumpet cry. Still, perception or not, there's a rise in the reporting of this phenomenon, and I definitely welcome it!
Dorkbot: (and I say your name, with nothing but the highest automated and cybernautic respect I can muster...) Wow, what a long post! I have been told once or twice that I have the unfortunate gift to gab well beyond the attention span of any normal human being. I'm afraid you may have me beat my friend. Not sure everyone read your post in its entirety. You're in good company, though. I'm not sure everyone reads my posts in their entirety, either.
That said, I'll jump right to the end: All good questions. Definitely agree that there are no real answers yet. All speculation, at this point, is fair game. I lean one way or the other on theories, depending on who I'm talking to, and what evidence is crossing my desk today.
Sincerely, Tom.
Hi everyone:
Macriver: Welcome to theparacast forums, and great link!
A.LeClair: I owe you a tasty chocolate Sangria!
NoAnswers: Great article, thanks for the link! It reminds me of some of the RavensRock post regarding his/her experience at the border. It's hard not to see this as a flap going on. Perhaps it's more perception of a flap, than any real change. Perhaps as we all become more focused on triangles, the reports start flowing in. Perhaps it's been going on for some time, and journalists like Brian Vike et al. are just now joining the trumpet cry. Still, perception or not, there's a rise in the reporting of this phenomenon, and I definitely welcome it!
Dorkbot: (and I say your name, with nothing but the highest automated and cybernautic respect I can muster...) Wow, what a long post! I have been told once or twice that I have the unfortunate gift to gab well beyond the attention span of any normal human being. I'm afraid you may have me beat my friend. Not sure everyone read your post in its entirety. You're in good company, though. I'm not sure everyone reads my posts in their entirety, either.
That said, I'll jump right to the end: All good questions. Definitely agree that there are no real answers yet. All speculation, at this point, is fair game. I lean one way or the other on theories, depending on who I'm talking to, and what evidence is crossing my desk today.
Sincerely, Tom.
Tom Levine
Skilled Investigator
Hi everyone:
Part 3 has been completed and published. Here's a couple excerpts. Please let me know what you think
MILITARY ACTIVITY AND OTHER ANOMALIES OF FEBRUARY, 2007
INTRODUCTION
Over the States of Illinois, Kentucky, Tennessee, Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana, and Pennsylvania, black triangles and rectangular shaped craft were seen in close, vivid detail. From up in Dorval Quebec, Canada to the north, on Feburary, 19th, 2007, then down through the south, to Fort Lauderdale, Florida, on February 22nd, 2007: Black, silent, hovering craft were witnesssed and reported by very normal people, doing very normal things.
They saw them through binoculars, and over apartment buildings. They experienced them alone while out walking the dog, or together with daughters, brothers, and friends. They reported them to NUFORC, they drafted diagrams of their encounters, they videotaped these strange craft in the sky, reacting to the surrealism of the moment, much the same way that you and I probably would.
But it doeesn't end there...
A: THE MILITARY COMPONENT
As the Suffolk, Virigina NUFORC witness states: "Something big is happening in Suffolk, Virginia!"
Eastward direction: The Orange to Amber lights from Suffolk, Virginia, moved in an eastward direction being chased by 2 military jets; The "hazy light ball" UFO in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, was seen over the ocean as the witness was facing "due east". He described the object as moving in a horizontal path across the earth. Later, he saw 2 jets coming from the north. Could they have been the same jets seen earlier in Suffolk, Virginia? The "axe-head" craft seen over Arlington Heights, Illinois, was also described as heading in an eastward direction. This graph represents all UFO activity on the evening of 2-22-07. Orange tags represent orange-colored UFO reports; The red lines serve to illustrate the possible connection between some of these events.
There's more, but here's a peak at the final conclusion of part 3:
THE SHAPE OF THE BLACK TRIANGLES PUZZLE:
Fireballs, unusual lights in the sky, and unexplainable military activity does not, on its own, present any compelling evidence of a phenomenal event. But like a jigsaw puzzle, the pieces do, in fact, fit together. We might not be able to see the final solution, but the puzzle begins to take shape.
The shape of this puzzle, looks something like this:
People were reporting close encounters with black triangles, at the same time that other people were reporting close encounters with rectangular shaped craft, at the same time that other people were reporting military activity around orange and amber lights in the sky, at the same time that other people were reporting strange descending orange orbs, at the same time that other people were reporting fireball-like sightings with no reported fireballs having descended to the earth.
The shape of this puzzle has a date, a time, and a location. It has principle players, and key elements:
The date is from 2-19-07 through 2-22-07. The time is between approximately 7:00pm and 12:00am. The location is the general midwestern United States. The principle players are normal people having close-encounters with unexplainable craft. The key elements, as you now know, are black triangles and rectangular shaped craft of unknown origin, and of unknown intent.
Sincerely, Tom
Part 3 has been completed and published. Here's a couple excerpts. Please let me know what you think
MILITARY ACTIVITY AND OTHER ANOMALIES OF FEBRUARY, 2007
INTRODUCTION
Over the States of Illinois, Kentucky, Tennessee, Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana, and Pennsylvania, black triangles and rectangular shaped craft were seen in close, vivid detail. From up in Dorval Quebec, Canada to the north, on Feburary, 19th, 2007, then down through the south, to Fort Lauderdale, Florida, on February 22nd, 2007: Black, silent, hovering craft were witnesssed and reported by very normal people, doing very normal things.
They saw them through binoculars, and over apartment buildings. They experienced them alone while out walking the dog, or together with daughters, brothers, and friends. They reported them to NUFORC, they drafted diagrams of their encounters, they videotaped these strange craft in the sky, reacting to the surrealism of the moment, much the same way that you and I probably would.
But it doeesn't end there...
A: THE MILITARY COMPONENT
As the Suffolk, Virigina NUFORC witness states: "Something big is happening in Suffolk, Virginia!"
Eastward direction: The Orange to Amber lights from Suffolk, Virginia, moved in an eastward direction being chased by 2 military jets; The "hazy light ball" UFO in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, was seen over the ocean as the witness was facing "due east". He described the object as moving in a horizontal path across the earth. Later, he saw 2 jets coming from the north. Could they have been the same jets seen earlier in Suffolk, Virginia? The "axe-head" craft seen over Arlington Heights, Illinois, was also described as heading in an eastward direction. This graph represents all UFO activity on the evening of 2-22-07. Orange tags represent orange-colored UFO reports; The red lines serve to illustrate the possible connection between some of these events.
There's more, but here's a peak at the final conclusion of part 3:
THE SHAPE OF THE BLACK TRIANGLES PUZZLE:
Fireballs, unusual lights in the sky, and unexplainable military activity does not, on its own, present any compelling evidence of a phenomenal event. But like a jigsaw puzzle, the pieces do, in fact, fit together. We might not be able to see the final solution, but the puzzle begins to take shape.
The shape of this puzzle, looks something like this:
People were reporting close encounters with black triangles, at the same time that other people were reporting close encounters with rectangular shaped craft, at the same time that other people were reporting military activity around orange and amber lights in the sky, at the same time that other people were reporting strange descending orange orbs, at the same time that other people were reporting fireball-like sightings with no reported fireballs having descended to the earth.
The shape of this puzzle has a date, a time, and a location. It has principle players, and key elements:
The date is from 2-19-07 through 2-22-07. The time is between approximately 7:00pm and 12:00am. The location is the general midwestern United States. The principle players are normal people having close-encounters with unexplainable craft. The key elements, as you now know, are black triangles and rectangular shaped craft of unknown origin, and of unknown intent.
Sincerely, Tom
Ah, well it's definitely a good mystery.
Some additional misc thoughts:
The black rectangles are a bit new to me. When did the first reports of these start to occur in the context of the BBD's? The report of a triangle transforming into a rectangle is entirely new to me. Probably be good to either identify previous reports of same or pin this one down.
Some other thoughts I had as I challenge my own speculation:
-In regards to creating an illusion of speed it seems that a lot of the reports simply aren't as detailed as I would like. People use terms like "blink of the eye" and the Illinois cop says he reached into his car for 3-4 seconds and then the craft was much farther away. I'm interested in knowing if the craft is seen accelerating in a linear way, if it appears to obtain a high speed instantly or if it is doing the disappears here/reappears over there thing.
-I neglected to mention earlier that the most obvious reason for running around with huge lights on a huge craft would be so that a helicopter or plane doesn't run into it even if you are flying off the books. I guess it may not technically conform to FAA specs but I guess most of the reports of the lit craft indicate it has a blinky red.
-It occurred to me that if you were operating a pair of these craft on a moonless night you could possibly run one w/ the lights on and another blacked out and then switch, giving the impression that the ship had moved a great distance instantly.
-It also occurred to me that while projecting a starfield on your belly and a ground image on your topside is likely quite feasible, a convincing illusion of speed would be very problematic to pull off. I might imagine it somewhat workable if you had an observer at a known, fixed position but fooling a moving observer at a random location from a moving platform seems, at best, unlikely. Even if possible, as a defense mechanism an illusion of speed would likely be discovered very quickly and then become instantly worthless as a battlefield tactic thereafter.
-Another "crazy" idea, one that even I would put extremely low on the list, is the idea of the entire thing somehow being a projected image. I have no idea how you would go about doing this but it would neatly tie up things like, improbable size, improbable speed, the air displacement issue and so on. If you bring up the idea of the accompanying sound that complicates it a bit but there are working, well documented techniques for projecting localized sound.
Of course, at best, I'm really stretching to make things fit with all this speculation but that is why it is a good mystery. Frankly, I want the damn things to be full of advanced black budget Star Trek stuff.
Some additional misc thoughts:
The black rectangles are a bit new to me. When did the first reports of these start to occur in the context of the BBD's? The report of a triangle transforming into a rectangle is entirely new to me. Probably be good to either identify previous reports of same or pin this one down.
Some other thoughts I had as I challenge my own speculation:
-In regards to creating an illusion of speed it seems that a lot of the reports simply aren't as detailed as I would like. People use terms like "blink of the eye" and the Illinois cop says he reached into his car for 3-4 seconds and then the craft was much farther away. I'm interested in knowing if the craft is seen accelerating in a linear way, if it appears to obtain a high speed instantly or if it is doing the disappears here/reappears over there thing.
-I neglected to mention earlier that the most obvious reason for running around with huge lights on a huge craft would be so that a helicopter or plane doesn't run into it even if you are flying off the books. I guess it may not technically conform to FAA specs but I guess most of the reports of the lit craft indicate it has a blinky red.
-It occurred to me that if you were operating a pair of these craft on a moonless night you could possibly run one w/ the lights on and another blacked out and then switch, giving the impression that the ship had moved a great distance instantly.
-It also occurred to me that while projecting a starfield on your belly and a ground image on your topside is likely quite feasible, a convincing illusion of speed would be very problematic to pull off. I might imagine it somewhat workable if you had an observer at a known, fixed position but fooling a moving observer at a random location from a moving platform seems, at best, unlikely. Even if possible, as a defense mechanism an illusion of speed would likely be discovered very quickly and then become instantly worthless as a battlefield tactic thereafter.
-Another "crazy" idea, one that even I would put extremely low on the list, is the idea of the entire thing somehow being a projected image. I have no idea how you would go about doing this but it would neatly tie up things like, improbable size, improbable speed, the air displacement issue and so on. If you bring up the idea of the accompanying sound that complicates it a bit but there are working, well documented techniques for projecting localized sound.
Of course, at best, I'm really stretching to make things fit with all this speculation but that is why it is a good mystery. Frankly, I want the damn things to be full of advanced black budget Star Trek stuff.