So I don't have really have a clue, eh? I've had experiences. I've talked to people who've had experiences - including bankers, law enforcement and sucessful business people. Not the social misfits and mentally disturbed victims many people try to paint of experiencers/abductees. No one of them feels they have THE answer. No one of them agrees verbatim with Hopkins or Jacobs or Mack or Cannon or Smith or Carpenter. All of them are grateful for a body of work from guys (and gals) that have done their best with meagre resources in the face of overwhelming disbelief and ridicule. I would bet I've read more books on the subject than you and I've made it my business to meet with 3 of those I mentioned above. I've also read Vallee's ideas on the subject, Graham Hancock's, Rick Straussman's among others. So who the hell are you to tell me or anyone else that they don't have a clue? All because we don't agree with some pathetic, ill-informed, vindictive rant by two guys on a podcast trying to make a name for themselves.
BTW their outrageous attack on Gene's stance on this matter is more that 'just a bit unfair' (WTF? A 12 minute rant at about a host of another podcast?). These guys want to lead a witch hunt in order to make a name for themselves. It's pathetic. Anyone who disagrees or even tries to be neutral while waiting for more evidence is attacked. Are these the professional standards they want to see in ufology? LoL
I hope they've kept the day jobs.
Ok Friend. I know nothing about you. So what do you expect from me? You can live in that world of fantasy, but the fact is there is not alot of evidence to support the theory 3 million Americans have been taken by small little grey guys during the night. I have enough familiarity with this topic to understand that. I live outside the United States. This is something that has always puzzled me. Why would beings from offplanet abduct American citizens predominantly. The air-space over the United States is the most guarded and patrolled airspace in the world. So why would aliens go there? If aliens wanted bodies to do medical research on, you'd expect more abductions to be happening in countries, that are far more remote than the United States. There is only 365 days in a year--do the math.. time example--24 clock does not add up 3 million! If it is happening on any scale, it in the very low hundreds over many generations.
Well if the people you are talking to have no answers to what happened to them, that is perfectly fine, but the plain fact is here Budd and Jacobs, as UFO researchers, have being pushing an agenda out for years with thier published works. Their books have institutionalized, a belief system in Ufology. The grey type-biological lifeform is doing the abductions, this in turn, lead on to the perception the pilots of the UFO's are the little grey guys.
This is a strange and disturbing reality if true, but I have pointed out to you in my last post. There is some grave inaccurancies with the descriptions of the aliens seen by Streiber and Betty Hill. Betty and Streiber originally claimed the small aliens had hair like human hair. Streiber knew that always, Betty also knew the small people she experienced had hair, but after Betty Hypnosis session with Doctor Simon the little bald headed boys emerged with no hair. I personally thing is strong reason to question Hypnosis the changing of the stories seems to be a regular thing.
You've read more books than me on the subject ok, but are you able though to differentiate between what is abundantly obvious and not, so far, reading your post, I have feeling you are not able to. Do you not understand this. Hypnosis is no wonder-drug it only relaxing you, it is only a form of meditation to relax yourself. It can't work if your asleep so everyone who has ever undergone Hypnosis for treatment is still awake not matter what state of conscious one achieves. You'd therefore would be acceptable to suggestions by the Hypnotist. Be Rational Keiko, I said their points were informed from 12 minutes on!
People who have gone to Budd or Jacobs in the past, had percieved ideas already inplanted in their heads. Why else would those people show up at their door? I think the Paratopia folks are supporting their argument wrongly, their supporting this "Emma Woods" character and attacking the work of Budd and Jacobs and others. Picking sides was wrong way to go for Paratopia, their information was good enough not a illusion, so no need for them to choose a side over another. I also think the Paracast Hosts and members should avoid coming down on one side themselves.
You can't have fire without the matches. Budd and Jacobs work is imposing, but this work was only achieved because both men had people coming to them as patients. Emma Woods is a women who'd one time believed aliens were involved with her on a personal-level. I think Jeff and Jer should realise she viewed Jacobs in the past as being a good humanitarian. It went sore. OK did this women have any experiences with aliens in the first place? She visited Jacobs, even if he suggested stuff to her. She is solely responsible for her own wellbeing. She was telling him she was involved with Aliens she came to Jacobs not the opposite way-round.
We can attack Jacobs and Budd, but this two men were just providing a service in the belief, something was happening to people. Their imaginations probably got the better of them hearing this stuff, but Humiliating both men is not something I will support. I think all parties are wrong in this, I have stated my position.