dorkbot said:
I actually meant "atypical" in the sense of expecting a human face and being confronted by a grey instead.
I find this to be a very interesting account specifically because there is no claim that it happened in a direct physical sense. You are very clear that this was an inner vision experience yet one that you were not overtly seeking. That is not to say that a quasi-mystical inner vision experience is unimportant and unrelated to the larger picture.
I personally try to maintain as large a number of running speculations about the phenomena as I can manage. I'm comfortable keeping the ETH, EDH, CTH, TTH and about a dozen other bizarre possibilities around to think about as they all have their good and bad points. I mention this because I think it is useful to have at least a basic overview in mind of the historical esoteric literature that deals with contacting non-human intelligence.
What interests me here is that on one hand elements of this telepathy-like account seem strikingly similar to, for example, accounts I have heard of telepathy-like interaction with Enochian entities. What seems different to me is that the Enochian interactions were something that had to be specifically sought out in a meticulous, methodical and laborious manner through very precise ritual work and that they seem to modify their appearance somewhat in accordance to a particular person's expectations. On the other hand, the greys seem to barge in uninvited in most cases and the image of their appearance seems relatively static.
And this is one of my running questions to people like Greenfield who are quick to draw the comparison to the denizens of the occult. That is to say, even if I accept this comparison there needs to be some addressing of the question on how they seem to be able to sort of forcefully manifest and protrude into our reality with little or no prompting when, traditionally, contact with entities like this are supposed to have involved a large amount of focused ritual effort.
Most authorities I have read on such topics state that "magical" effects in the physical world are like water in that they will always tend to take the path of least resistance as it were. Pots of gold do not materialize in a puff of smoke, rather somebody forgets to cash a check you wrote them. Yet the greys seem to be riding into Pleasantville's business district in a motorcycle gang, snatching purses from grandma and breaking shop windows as it were.
So what's up with that?
Understand that I don't practice channeling, ritual magic(k), mediumship or anything similar, I'm just somewhat familiar with the literature.
I find it remarkable that you appear to have quite a good understanding of "channeling, ritual magic(k), mediumship or anything similar", although you say you don't practise any of it. These kinds of experiences are very difficult to put into words, yet everyone who experiments with channelling and the like knows how they feel. They are, in a way, easier experienced than talked about. (This is particularly true for genuine spiritual healing, which is nigh impossible to rationalise).
Yes, I agree with you, it is a good idea to keep an open mind as to the true nature of the phenomena. I do think that that they ultimately all tie in, although this can be difficult to imagine at times. We are dealing with extremely complex issues here.
Kim323 started a thread called "Bernard Haisch Articles: MUST READS!". Let me quote from Haisch's home page. He proposes a greater reality, in which "the natural and the supernatural are just the red and the violet ends of a vastly rich spectrum". With regard to alien encounters, it occurred to me a while ago that this must be the reason as to why many accounts are reminiscent of daydreams, lucid dreams, OBEs, or even drug-induced experiences. Also, the well documented physical effects, such as UFOs blinking in an out of our reality, or executing seemingly impossible manoeuvres, tracked by radar, form part of this puzzle.
All alien races that visit Earth seem to have in common advanced psychic capabilities. Even our best psychics and mediums (and I have worked with a few) are mere first-graders, so to speak, by comparison. Telepathy is the only way greys communicate. It is entirely natural, even vital to them. To draw a comparison, humans are about as talented in the use of telepathy, as monkeys are in the use of mechanical tools: They both can do it, but the results aren't going to be too impressive.
To humans, telepathy and psychism belong to the realm of the paranormal, ethereal, and mystical. We like to attach terms such as "irrational" or "unscientific" to them. However, to the ETs all of this is just another aspect of nature, and the greater reality. It has been said elsewhere that ETs don't discriminate between what we term religion, and science. To them, religion and science are different aspects of one and the same reality: "Just the red and the violet ends of a vastly rich spectrum".
Coming back to the grey, in this experience, it became clear to me that greys project their ethereal, or astral, body with the greatest of ease. It is like second nature to them. For this reason, they appear to occupy the astral realms just as much as the physical realm. They are at home, and totally competent, in either.
You ask: "The greys seem to be riding into Pleasantville's business district in a motorcycle gang, snatching purses from grandma and breaking shop windows as it were. So what's up with that?" Well, speaking from my own experience, I guess I was accidentally attuned to their frequency, and this brought me to their attention. I felt as if I had appeared on their "radar screen", so to speak, and they were simply checking out who I was, and also perhaps if I could be useful to them. Again, I would compare their general behaviour with that of ants: Most of the time, they don't bother with the goings on in the vicinity of their colony. However, if you happen to step right into their colony, they soon are all over you, and deal to you. They seem to alternate between giving something no attention, or all of it.
In total, I believe I had at least three encounters with greys, although there might have been one more: I once had a missing time experience, where I couldn't account for about 5 hours. I was not intoxicated in any way.
My first encounter was when I was about 16. I was with a group of musician friends. We had finished a rehearsal and then went to a local pizza place in the middle of town (Germany). This town has a strong military presence, there are two US air bases nearby. It was about 10 PM, and a clear night. We left the restaurant, and walked up a passageway in between two large department stores. Suddenly, one of my friends stopped and pointed at the sky. We all looked up, and saw an orange glowing object, like a fireball, slowly approaching the town from the horizon. It was not possible to determine its size, since the actual object was obscured by the glow. I could, however, work out that the glow was not static, but seemed to revolve around the object, which almost gave it a pulsating appearance. As we were discussing the nature of the object - satellites were mentioned, which sometimes can be seen at night - the object suddenly stood still, in mid-air, several kilometres above ground (I couldn't give a more precise estimate than perhaps 3-4 km).
Up until this point, I had been curious, but little bothered by the sighting. However, as the object stopped advancing, something most peculiar happened: Suddenly, I had the sensation of the distance between the object and myself collapsing to zero, as if I - or at least my mind - was right there with them. Them - because for some inexplicable reason, I could see small, very slender creatures with large heads standing upright inside a craft, all facing each other, and I knew they were telepathically discussing what to do next. I knew that they knew they had been discovered, and that they were unsure about their next move. Please understand that, at that age, I had no conception of UFOs, aliens, telepathy, or any of that sort. None whatsoever. UFOs and aliens were not part of my reality. I may have watched Star Trek on telly, but that was about it.
This sense of collapsing distance between myself and the UFO lasted for a few moments, and as I was observing the creatures inside the craft, I also felt scanned and quite powerless. Something was happening to me, but I could not work out what. However, this condition only lasted for a few seconds, since the UFO suddenly, abruptly, without any phase of acceleration, leapt back and towards where it had come from, and disappeared. It moved so fast, it was quite unbelievable. I have seen rockets fly on TV, but by comparison, a rocket would have seemed to move at a snail's pace. UNBELIEVABLE!
Afterwards, me and my friends briefly discussed the experience, and we all agreed that this must have been a UFO. I did not mention the psychological effects that I had felt, consequently I am not sure if I was the only one who had felt them.
