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CapnG said:
Look at it the same way I do: this is all you're ever going to get so you better make the most of it.
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Nah, I'd just blow my head off and cut to the chase. All is lost in the end. Happiness, sadness of others etc. have no meaning for me if we don't live on in some way. The joys in life isn't worth the pain. Luckily, I've had some experiences that suggest we do survive after death, and read some compelling cases of others too, so I don't despair much about it. I don't believe in the Christian dogmatic god however. That shit is beyond silly.
 
As I grow older I am increasingly convinced that we are souless meatbots, assigning the misnomer "spirit" to what is simply the unconcious chatter of our own brains. No heaven, no hell, no nothing... only soil and worms await you post-mortem.
 
Aaron LeClair said:
I don't see a point to living if when we die that's it. Hard for me to enjoy life believing there's no hereafter. That's just me though.
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i have no problems with the concept, i find it liberating.

i have a section at the rear of my property thats a pets cemetary..... do they all go to the afterlife ?
according to roy or was it siegfreid (whoever got mauled by tiger) said at the end of the tunnel all the animals he had owned and had died were waiting for him......

so maybe.......

no one likes the idea of oblivion when your biosystems age and fail, but to me it seems the obvious result.
i now live life without the safety net, and learned a lesson or two from marleys ghost.

if you think about it, its your oldest fear, every other obstacle in life can be surmounted , overcome.

but this one remains, most dont look it in the eye and acknowledge it with honesty, most shun its dread gaze and throw up barriers such as heaven to block its reality.

as i said i found it liberating to strip away those barriers (culturally installed while i was young and impressionable) and face it full on.

it was literally a "life changing" moment
 
i say.... you do have me thinking here.

lets say i could hypothetically prove to you there was only oblivion on termination of biofunction.

would your reaction be like aarons, ie negative ?

i wonder what percentage of the population would go into wrist slitting mode in this case

i think this is an important question and it relates directly to the UFO one......

how would your life change, if it were proven beyond any doubt that only oblivion awaits.......
 
mike said:
i say.... you do have me thinking here.

lets say i could hypothetically prove to you there was only oblivion on termination of biofunction.

would your reaction be like aarons, ie negative ?

i wonder what percentage of the population would go into wrist slitting mode in this case
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When I came to my "meatbot" conclusion, that was also my intial reaction. But after a while I decided that life should be lived simply because of the experience. Not so much for myself of course, my life will probably never be anything of great importance or value but rather in an observaional capacity. After all, tomorrow's history books will be written about today's events...
 
CapnG said:
When I came to my "meatbot" conclusion, that was also my intial reaction. But after a while I decided that life should be lived simply because of the experience. Not so much for myself of course, my life will probably never be anything of great importance or value but rather in an observaional capacity. After all, tomorrow's history books will be written about today's events...
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mmmm meatbot
 
you realise that if ET does land on the lawn, and the game of 20 questions ensues, this one will be up there in the top ten..... is there a god, and what happens when we die.

from an ET pov what a nightmare our case could be, if the truth, the honest reality is there is no god, and oblivion awaits you if your bioform is rendered inoperable by accident or age.....

if a large percentage of the superstitious natives were to go into wrist slashing mode on receipt of this data......

maybe its not us as a species a bioform they are avoiding....maybe its our questions and the consequences of getting the answers........

how do you rationalise with a being who is programmed to transfer all personal responsibily and reasoning to a fictional character.....
 
mike said:
if a large percentage of the superstitious natives were to go into wrist slashing mode on receipt of this data......
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That's not really a problem. Having large numbers of superstitious, ignorant, psychologically fragile people voluntarily remove themselves from the genepool can only be benefitial to the species as a whole.
 
CapnG said:
That's not really a problem. Having large numbers of superstitious, ignorant, psychologically fragile people voluntarily remove themselves from the genepool can only be benefitial to the species as a whole.
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if thats all they do as a result.......
 
Crumbs, if they all found out there is no afterlife, killing themselves would be the last thing on their agenda! lol

Seriously i dont really understand people spending their whole lives looking forward to and worshiping death, but then most of it is due to indoctrination. Remember what the Catholics said 'Give me the child before 7 and I will give you then man' - translated means 'Even an 8 year old wouldnt believe this bullshit' lol.
 
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