Thank you for this excellent wall of text,
@william. With only 4 percent of what we take to be the 'visible' universe perceptible by us, here, in this point in spacetime, there is vast room for creative thinking about what exists in the other 96 percent, and I find your speculations both fascinating and informed in regard to current human scientific theories. The world beyond what we can see is as mysterious as consciousness, and its inherent structure(s) might well be connected to the limits of what we can understand about the nature of our experienced consciousness. That suggests to me, as it does to you, that we need to explore by all means possible the paranormal, psychic, and spiritual experiences reported by humans in the recorded past and in the present.
I'd be most interested in reading what you might be willing to describe of your own spiritual and theistic experiences, and I think that in general we ought finally in this thread to turn to lengthy discussions of the nature of these kinds of experiences. The most interesting aspect of quantum mechanics and theory for me has long been the general entanglement of q particles (and I'm guessing a similar entanglement of q fields). The deeper substrate you reason to exist in the vacuum would logically, it seems to me, interact with, further integrate, and indeed possibly guide {as in Bohm's thought} the measureable processes and structures we've discovered in the q substrate and in the classically described macro 'world' we exist in and have been able to make some sense of. Since we cannot achieve a point of view on all that exists, a view from everywhere, I think we need to proceed from the basis of phenomenological description of the range of what we experience, territory that materialist science has blocked from inquiry for more than two hundred years now. Many thanks for the doors opened in your thoughtful and carefully written post.
Constance, so sorry to have taken so long to give you a more direct response. I like visiting the forums here, and I try to keep up on the things I find interesting. But other things in life call beyond these forums, so I don't always have lots of spare time.
I think
this article might be of interest on the quantum front. There is so much that is not understood. I actually left a message for the author, asking him to write a piece on the quantum foam, which I hope he'll do.
Others commented above on my suggestion of a nested hierarchy of structure in the quantum foam, so I must make it clear that I did not, and I am not suggesting a "separate reality." As an example to explain this, until Van Leeuwenhoek's functional microscope was invented, no one was aware of micro-organisms (a very large source of biomass on the planet), or that living bodies contained cells. But that does not mean that either micro-organisms or the cells of living bodies constituted a "separate reality." Rather, they were always vital constituents of "the" reality, and eventually human researchers discovered them. Until the end of the 19th century, no one knew that visible light is only a tiny part of a much, much greater electromagnetic spectrum. Likewise, no one suggests that the immensely complex internal working of each living cell is a "separate reality," but no one knew about those complex functions until the 20th century. The double helix DNA strand containing an enormous library of coded information is not a "separate reality," but it was not known until the mid-20th century. And on and on with all kinds of other discoveries.
So, my suggestion is not for a separate reality, but for yet greater knowledge of very, very, very fine structures that contribute to "the" reality, including our consciousness and our ability to perceive "the" reality.
Another criticism given above says that quantum foam is only associated with known Standard Model particles, like electrons. True, but as yet that is simply all that physicists have been able to model about the quantum foam. I've made it very clear that
I am speculating that there's a whole lot more at that level that as yet no one can see, which is analogous to the huge unseen micro-biological world, which was unknown until a suitable microscope was invented. So, I'm further suggesting that certain quantum foam structures are vital to our individual human existence and consciousness, just like the double helix DNA strand in each cell has
always been vital for each of us and for all our ancestors. But just as the DNA strand was unknown until the second half of the 20th century, so the even finer quantum foam structures are yet to be discovered. It's a suggestion and I may be wrong. But the history of recent scientific discovery surely leads one to at least suspect that such very fine structures might well exist.
As I've said, some experiences have led me to such speculation, including some involving my understanding of theism. In short, like many others, I'm convinced there are non-human intelligences at work in "the" reality that we experience. People claim to have had interactive communication with non-humans, going far back in history, including "religious" texts. Nothing new on that. Researchers notice similarities between reports of religious interaction and the UFO and paranormal reports of interaction. So, if we humans use the Standard Model particle zoo for our communications, perhaps very powerful non-humans can use structures in the quantum foam to communicate with each other,
and with us. Plus, if each of us are also composed of fine structure quantum foam components, then perhaps non-humans can manipulate or influence those structures at that level to interact with us, to communicate with us, or to "tricksterize" us with a bunch of mesmerizing deception.
This also supports the idea that a conscious aspect of each of us might survive death of the "physical" body composed of Standard Model particles. The pre-scientific term "spirit" might be a fair place-holding description for the time being. Human consciousness is obviously highly involved with the physical brain, but maybe also to substances and structures far, far smaller that as yet we simply cannot detect at will. Not a new idea at all.
(Important questions related to a person's conscious survival after death, such as from a shamanistic view, or from an eastern Hinduistic view, or from an Abrahamic view, or from any other view, are for a different discussion.)
So here are a few examples of my experiences, most of which I'd previously posted here, that have led me to this kind of speculation. Compared to many, nothing is particularly spectacular, but they were very meaningful to me:
Luminescent ball of light on the floor that seemed to want to be seen
Articulate voice with a lethal suggestion
So-called sleep paralysis episodes
Strange vivid dreams
here
"Ting" heard many times in the dead of night, which seemed poltergeist-like (bottom of the post)
here
Initiating an impromptu exorcism (bottom of the post)
here
Healed from cigarette/nicotine addiction by an appeal to the Almighty
I'd had a similar, very powerful experience a few months earlier
(toward the end of the post)
here
I also had a single disturbing occurrence of what seemed like an OOBE up to the ceiling
Once, regarding a choice I needed to make, whether or not to undertake a major life-change involving a lengthy move from the US to another country, I appealed to the Almighty to please tell me "either by an angel or by a human" about this possible move. Within eight minutes of my request, walking back to my apartment on the city sidewalk, I unexpectedly met a woman I knew but whom I hadn't been in contact with for six months and whom I'd not expected to see again. Within a moment, before I could even speak, she excitedly
told me to do exactly what I'd requested clarification about just eight minutes earlier. I should say that some six months earlier this woman and I had discussed the possibility of my move, but since then I hadn't been in contact with her and I didn't expect to again, and I certainly did not expect to see her that evening on that sidewalk, which was quite far from where she lived.
I've had other experiences that I will refrain from posting because of highly complex or sensitive backstories.
So, in my experience, non-humans, including the
ultimate non-human have interacted with people, including me. I postulate that there are structures in the quantum foam that act as part of the medium of interaction.
Caveat Lector.
