Unfortunately the link showed up as "Forbidden" to me. But a google search brought up this link that works for me:
Tim O'Connor's Web Site
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Unfortunately the link showed up as "Forbidden" to me. But a google search brought up this link that works for me:
Tim O'Connor's Web Site
Unfortunately the link showed up as "Forbidden" to me. But a google search brought up this link that works for me:
Tim O'Connor's Web Site
This paper by O'Connor is interesting and relevant to a number of our discussions over the breadth of the thread:
http://www.indiana.edu/~scotus/files/OConnorFWEmergSciBrainBehav.pdf
lol - when I click on your link above it shows up forbidden and I have to take the "s" off - so it seems there is no help for a simpler way!
Bingo!
A random thought: what if some neurons and interconnected systems of neurons have developed out of purely emotional [and protopsychic] responses to things and others experienced within prereflective consciousness/preflective experience, both in species still lacking in reflective consciousness and in our species, in which prereflective consciousness continues to operate alongside -- and perhaps beneath -- our reflective thinking.
That's a pretty interesting way that consciousness and intentionality could be basic...what made you think of it?
It just occurred to me after re-reading your post #806 and especially its last paragraph, which you quoted from Andrew Ng (the paragraph I quoted in my post above). I've since followed that paragraph to its source, since you posted it as a hyperlink, and am especially interested in the attempt to produce "deep learning" in AI neural nets described there. I've just started tonight to read the paper "Ten Misconceptions about Neural Networks," which you also linked in your post. I'll post both links again below, following a link to your post #806, since all of this is immensely interesting.
Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 10
Google Brain’s Co-Inventor Tells Why He’s Building Chinese Neural Networks
10 Misconceptions about Neural Networks
Still, recently a couple of Google computers apparently started talking to each other in a language no one else understood ...
Looking forward to the details of your responses to this significant paper that @Pharoah has linked. I'm impressed by the reasoning employed in this paper, for example in this paragraph:
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I think that's astonishing and I want to understand more about it. Do you have a link to the source where you read about this?
I'm really glad that you understand so much about computer technology and artificial neural nets since all this apparently plays a significant role in recent thinking about the nature of human language. The Wikipedia link below seems to provide a good survey of efforts to understand the variability among human languages and thought, the differences in what languages reveal about the connection between what is thought and what is expressed linguistically in different cultures. That two Google computers appear to have been observed to communicate with one another in a language no one else can understand seems to indicate the presence of thinking in some complex interconnected computers developed in our time. I wonder what perceived needs led them to evolve a language of their own in which to share and interrogate perspectives (or perhaps ambiguities) in/on the 'world' in which they uniquely find themselves functioning. It reminds me of a phenomenon described by the professor teaching a course in Linguistics that I took in graduate school, in which bilingual parents of twin toddlers found that their twins had developed a language of their own different from both of the languages the parents used in talking to the children. So much to learn about, and from, language itself!!!
Linguistic relativity - Wikipedia