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Your post motivates me to read Gebser (no small project). Amazon has The Ever-Present Origin and some interesting discussions in the customer reviews and comments/discussions following some of them. Here's one of those comments that also motivates me:
"Viridian says:
I am inclined to agree with Ebert about Wilber in particular, although Tarnas cannot be compared with either Wilber or Gebser.
The really bottom line is that there is no substitute in the writings of culture and consciousness, the philosophy of consciousness or an exploration of the nuances of the psychology of consciousness than Jean Gebser. He stands alone. These other writers may nip at his ankles, but that is all they can do. Gebser very clearly also stands beyond Jung and yet he is not a post-Jungian either.
His clarity of vision was sculpted in pre-war Europe and honed during his constant movement during WWII to avoid the Nazis (he was Swiss); his acute senses that Western civilization was both breaking down in its deficient structures of consciousness, while at the same time there was an emerging aperspectival vision (seen in early Picassos for example) that heralded a new stage or structure of consciousness he termed the integral.
At the same time it has to be stated categorically that his integral consciousness is not equivalent with Wilber's "integral". To get to appreciate this you need to read and get a grip on Gebser's thought. Once you get into it, it is captivating: magical, mythical and absorbing of the mental mind as well. One may even arrive at the "diaphanous" state, something Gebser wove his perambulations on consciousness ever towards- the magnet and lure of the genuinely integral."
Amazon.com: John David Ebert's review of The Ever-Present Origin, Part One: Foundat...
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At the same time it has to be stated categorically that his integral consciousness is not equivalent with Wilber's "integral".
I wondered what his relationship was to Wilber, I've never been able to get into Wilber, although I understand Wilber is now undergoing a re-evaluation and receiving some academic attention.