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Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 7

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"Intuitively each level has a characteristic kind of object, characteristic kinds of properties and facts, and usually a different profession for people that study or work with it: quantum physicists, solid-state physicists, chemists, biologists, psychologists, sociologists. Nearer the top, mathematicians and theologians. And then, at least according to Aristotle, at the very top: philoophers. He put philosophers there because we think about Being --- that is, the whole shebang, and we try to figure out how the different levels are related. Most contemporary philosophers feel more in the middle than at the top. And their approach to the issue of levels of reality focuses on the topic of reduction."

Levels of Reality

The author goes on in this fashion ... until most everything is given over to the physicists - ...

(Theologians even more brusquely dismissed ... and God knows what is to be made of the mystic, the gnostic, the navel gazing eastern sage - much less the magus - and the supernatural is incomprehensible, even though simply defined: being that which is above (and beyond) the natural - after talking about these things for thousands of years, we've suddenly wised up and what is funny is how few can see how we might go back to talking about them, likely will, can't see it because our own mythology of progress is so brilliant.

But likely it is ... and to go back to many other things too, the paths back into the woods are clear and numerous wheras the way forward is ... opaque. Not to mention that historically civilizations turn away from science - the past 500 years, 300 most especially, could be historically contingent. Could be.

But in the meantime, does the philosopher accept her position just in the middle - a kind of academic custodian - ambitious only to sweep up the odd bits that won't stay tidy?

Well ... if no one asks them anymore how they should live ... what is true or what is good ... I suppose they should stay busy.

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As some things we can't break down with the ultimately blunt tools of logic, analysis (from the Greek for "loosen up" ... which is just what the analytical school most needs to do) ... some things we need to "cope" with and become acquainted with, come to know - this is what learning phenomenology feels like to me, getting to know how what Husserl and Heidegger both are doing is phenomenology - that it is this way, for me, is why it's hard to say what it is and why it's important - and you might not even see that, if you don't hold your tongue just right, after reading hundreds of pages.
 
Hi Steve. I read Dreyfus's papers re AI years ago but don't remember his commentary on Being and Time. Would you link it again? Is this the work you mean, evidently available online at Questia ---

Being-in-the-World: A Commentary on Heidegger's Being and Time, Division I by Hubert L. Dreyfus, 1991 | Online Research Library: Questia
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E. F. Kaelin. You'll find the preface and introductory chapter of his Being and Time: A Reading for Readers available following the summary of Drefus's work on Being and Time on the same Questia page linked above.

The following extract from Kaelin's introduction exemplifies his comprehensive understanding of the 'Continental' tradition in philosophy in which phenomenology and existentialism developed and evolved into the post-structuralist philosophy underlying contemporary literary, cultural, and social theory in what has become designated as interdisciplinary 'Critical Theory'.

"It was the poststructuralists, under the direction of the Parisian historian of philosophy, Jacques Derrida, [25] who created the most effective answer to my leading question, What is in a literary work of art in addition to a represented fictional world? The answer is cogent and stems from considering a literary work merely as a piece of writing, a text -- indeed, a set of signs, not with an associated set of signified meanings but a set of signs for which the reader of the piece of writing merely substitutes another set of signs, the critical text.

These, too, to be "understood" must be interpreted, and so on ad infinitum. And if there is no ultimate meaning of a given text, there is likewise no initial structural relationship or essence that constitutes the source of the given text.

Heidegger, we recall, described the artist's being-in-the-world as the ultimate source of an artwork's working; and what gets expressed in that source is the human artist's opening to being, indeed to feeling, to interpretive understanding, and to the act of speech. But without a
reader's interpretive response the artist's expression would be a 'meaningless' gesture. . . . ."
I don't seem to be able to copy the link ... Google "being in the world dreyfus pdf" should turn it up - free doenload.

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The Kelly paper looks like a valuable contribution. I'll try to read it during time-outs in the midst of moving. :)

Reading the first few pages of this paper (starting with Searle's thinking), the following extracts from major works of phenomenological philosophy suggest strongly that Searle has not read or understood these works. First Sartre:

"In the image, indeed, a certain consciousness gives itself a certain object. The object is therefore correlative with a certain synthetic act, which includes among its structures a certain knowledge and a certain ‘intention’. The intention is at the centre of consciousness: it is the intention that aims at the object, which is to say, that constitutes it for what it is. The knowledge, which is indissolubly linked to the intention, specifies that the object is such or such, adds determinations synthetically. To constitute as an image in oneself a certain consciousness of the table is at the same time to constitute the table as an object of imaging consciousness. The object as imaged is therefore contemporary with the consciousness that I have of it and it is exactly determined by that consciousness: it includes in itself nothing but what I am conscious of; but, inversely, everything that constitutes my consciousness finds its correlate in the object. My knowledge is nothing other than knowledge of the object, knowledge concerning the object. In the act of consciousness, the representative element and the knowledge element are linked in a synthetic act. The correlative object of this act is therefore constituted as a concrete, sensible object and at the same time as an object of knowledge. This results in the paradoxical consequence that the object is present for us externally and internally at the same time. Externally, because we observe it; internally, because it is in it that we observe what it is. This is why extremely poor and truncated images, reduced to a few spatial determinations, can have a rich and profound sense for me. And this sense is there, immediate, in these lines, it is given without a need to decipher it. This is also why the world of images is a world where nothing happens. I can easily, at my liking, move such-and-such an object as imaged, turn a cube, make a plant grow, make a horse run, there will be never the smallest time-lag between the object and the consciousness. …

I will call the different immediate modes of apprehension of the real as a world ‘situations’. We can then say that the essential condition for a consciousness to imagine is that it be ‘situated in the world’ or more briefly that it ‘be-in-the-world’. It is the situation-in-the-world, grasped as a concrete and individual reality of consciousness, that is the motivation for the constitution of any irreal object whatever and the nature of that irreal object is circumscribed by this motivation. Thus the situation of consciousness must appear not as a pure and abstract condition of possibility for all of the imaginary, but as the concrete and precise motivation for the appearance of a certain particular imaginary.

From this point of view, we can finally grasp the connection of the irreal to the real. First of all, even if no image is produced at the moment, every apprehension of the real as a world tends of its own accord to end up with the production of irreal objects since it is always, in a sense, free nihilation of the world and this always from a particular point of view. So, if consciousness is free, the noematic correlate of its freedom should be the world that carries in itself its possibility of negation, at each moment and from each point of view, by means of an image, even while the image must as yet be constituted by a particular intention of consciousness. But, reciprocally, an image, being a negation of the world from a particular point of view, can appear, only-on-the ground of the world and in connection with that ground. Of course, the appearance of the image requires that the particular perceptions be diluted in the syncretic wholeness world and that this whole withdraws. But it is precisely the withdrawal of the whole that constitutes it as ground, that ground on which the irreal form must stand out. So although, by means of the production of the irreal, consciousness can momentarily appear delivered from its ‘being-in-the-world’, on the contrary this ‘being-in-the-world’ is the necessary condition of imagination."

Sartre, Jean Paul. 2004 [1948]. The Imaginary. London: Routledge. pp. 6-15, 185-187. || Amazon || WorldCat


And next Merleau-Ponty:

"When I begin to reflect my reflection bears upon an unreflective experience; moreover my reflection cannot be unaware of itself as an event, and so it appears to itself in the light of a truly creative act, of a changed structure of consciousness, and yet it has to recognize, as having priority over its own operations, the world which is given to the subject because the subject is given to himself. The real has to be described, not constructed or formed. Which means that I cannot put perception into the same category as the syntheses represented by judgements, acts or predications. My field of perception is constantly filled with a play of colours, noises and fleeting tactile sensations which I cannot relate precisely to the context of my clearly perceived world, yet which I nevertheless immediately ‘place’ in the world, without ever confusing them with my daydreams. Equally constantly I weave dreams round things. I imagine people and things whose presence is not incompatible with the context, yet who are not in fact involved in it: they are ahead of reality, in the realm of the imaginary. If the reality of my perception were based solely on the intrinsic coherence of ‘representations’, it ought to be forever hesitant and, being wrapped up in my conjectures on probabilities. I ought to be ceaselessly taking apart misleading syntheses, and reinstating in reality stray phenomena which I had excluded in the first place. But this seems not to happen. The real is a closely woven fabric. It does not await our judgement before incorporating the most surprising phenomena, or before rejecting the most plausible figments of our imagination. Perception is not a science of the world, it is not even an act, a deliberate taking up of a position; it is the background from which all acts stand out, and is presupposed by them. …

Intellectualism [by which MP designated 'rationalism'] set out, it is true, to discover by reflection the structure of perception, instead of explaining it in terms of a combination of associative forces and attention, but its gaze upon perception is not yet direct. This will be seen better by examining the role played in its analysis by the notion of judgement. Judgement is often introduced as what sensation lacks to make perception possible. Sensation is no longer presupposed as a real element of consciousness. But when it is desired to delineate the structure of perception, it is done by joining up the points of sensation. Analysis is then dominated by this empiricist notion which, however, is accepted only as the boundary of consciousness and serves merely to throw into relief a power of co-ordination of which it is itself the antithesis. Intellectualism thrives on the refutation of empiricism, and here judgement often has the job of offsetting the possible dispersal of sensations. Analytical reflection makes its canon firm by carrying to their logical conclusions the realist and empiricist theses, and validating their opposite by showing their absurdity. But in the reductio ad absurdum no contact is necessarily made with the actual workings of consciousness. It remains possible that the theory of perception, ideally starting from a blind intuition, may end compensatorily with some empty concept, and that judgement, the counterpart of pure sensation, may degenerate into a general function of an indifferent linking of objects, or even become once more a psychic force detectable in its effects. The famous analysis of the piece of jumps from qualities such a smell, colour and taste, to the power of assuming an infinity of forms and positions, a power which lies beyond the perceived object and defines only the wax of the physicist. For perception there is no wax left when all its sensible properties have vanished and only science supposes that there is some matter which is preserved."

Merleau-Ponty, Maurice. 2012 [1945]. The Phenomenology of Perception. London: Routledge. pp. xi, 37. || Amazon || WorldCat



ps: Lost confidence in Shawn Dorrance Kelly with this statement on page one: "Merleau-Ponty was an avowed Idealist throughout."
 
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I don't seem to be able to copy the link ... Google "being in the world dreyfus pdf" should turn it up - free doenload.

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No worry on my account; I joined Questia today and can read Dreyfus's book there (and more additional relevant books and articles than I can read in one year for the yearly rate of $99). It's a deal, or as Martha Stewart would say, "a very good thing." :)
 
This paper, "The Body in Husserl and Merleau-Ponty" by Taylor Carman should illuminate the differences in MP's philosophy of embodied consciousness and perception from Searle's approach as well as from Husserl's idealistic tendencies. Much of what's said here is probably also expressed by Dreyfus in his encounter with Searle, but since Dreyfus relies most on Heidegger I think it's important for those coming to phenomenology to understand MP's radical movement beyond 'idealism', which Kelly seems to have thoroughly missed.

http://istsocrates.berkeley.edu/~hdreyfus/188_s05/pdf/Carman_Body.pdf
 
This paper, "The Body in Husserl and Merleau-Ponty" by Taylor Carman should illuminate the differences in MP's philosophy of embodied consciousness and perception from Searle's approach as well as from Husserl's idealistic tendencies. Much of what's said here is probably also expressed by Dreyfus in his encounter with Searle, but since Dreyfus relies most on Heidegger I think it's important for those coming to phenomenology to understand MP's radical movement beyond 'idealism', which Kelly seems to have thoroughly missed.

http://istsocrates.berkeley.edu/~hdreyfus/188_s05/pdf/Carman_Body.pdf
I don't know that we can rely on Dreyfus either, but he and Kellly may differ a bit... that's why I wanted your other commentary -

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"Intuitively each level has a characteristic kind of object, characteristic kinds of properties and facts, and usually a different profession for people that study or work with it: quantum physicists, solid-state physicists, chemists, biologists, psychologists, sociologists. Nearer the top, mathematicians and theologians. And then, at least according to Aristotle, at the very top: philoophers. He put philosophers there because we think about Being --- that is, the whole shebang, and we try to figure out how the different levels are related. Most contemporary philosophers feel more in the middle than at the top. And their approach to the issue of levels of reality focuses on the topic of reduction."

Levels of Reality

The author goes on in this fashion ... until most everything is given over to the physicists - ...

(Theologians even more brusquely dismissed ... and God knows what is to be made of the mystic, the gnostic, the navel gazing eastern sage - much less the magus - and the supernatural is incomprehensible, even though simply defined: being that which is above (and beyond) the natural - after talking about these things for thousands of years, we've suddenly wised up and what is funny is how few can see how we might go back to talking about them, likely will, can't see it because our own mythology of progress is so brilliant.

But likely it is ... and to go back to many other things too, the paths back into the woods are clear and numerous wheras the way forward is ... opaque. Not to mention that historically civilizations turn away from science - the past 500 years, 300 most especially, could be historically contingent. Could be.

But in the meantime, does the philosopher accept her position just in the middle - a kind of academic custodian - ambitious only to sweep up the odd bits that won't stay tidy?

Well ... if no one asks them anymore how they should live ... what is true or what is good ... I suppose they should stay busy.

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There are lots of knees to watch here ... and I'm not even sure what I'm doing here ... except that I'm anxious? a bit to see what we do with what looks like pieces of a puzzle that don't fit ...

"Camus sees the very essential structure of the absurd residing in the disconnect, the "divorce" between our desires and reasonings on one side and the irrational world on the other."

Irrational - as in can't be divided out cleanly

(desires/reasonings)/world(irrational) = irrational result as it's a case of

irrational/irrational

... tell me I can't cope with mathematics!

Is it the war of the hemispheres, a la McGilchrist? ...

things to do: evolve a third, mediating hemisphere ... I think some people have these already! When I look to my left I see the beauty of the logical, the clean, neat lines and well laid plans ... When I look to the right, I see no hope of justifying myself to myself - but no matter, here the Master is well seated and keeping an eye on his Emissary ... but, I just realized, in contemplation, there arises this third hemisphere - emergent from the left and right - which of course is why the "third eye" is its symbol. It's serene to reside there because both Master and Emissary are now in harness to ... what should we call it?

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Further in Kelly, pg. 17: "Modes of presentation are, of course, a central tool in the first-person logical analyst’s kit, so the need for them ought not to be a particular concern. But the way in which we understand an object when we are unreflectively engaged in acting with respect to it—that is certainly a special and strange way of understanding the thing. What is the mode of presentation of the doorknob, then, when I am unreflectively engaged in reaching out to grasp it? For obvious reasons this is a hard question to answer. After all, the point of the activity is that I am unreflectively performing it, that I am reaching out to grasp the doorknob without paying attention to the fact that that is what I am doing. To describe how I experience the doorknob when I am not paying attention to the fact that I am acting with respect to it—that sounds like a difficult task indeed. But it is the task of phenomenology, and we have managed a bit of progress with respect to it.

The most important step is to notice that in such an unreflective activity, although I do not explicitly notice the doorknob (ex hypothesi), it nevertheless directs or leads my grasp. The doorknob solicits my hand to form a certain shape. Of course, it does so by figuring in my experience, at least in a marginal way; if it did not figure in my experience at all, I would constantly be shocked to discover that my body was engaged in any activity at all, the way I am constantly shocked to feel my foot going up when the doctor taps on the patella tendon. But I am not shocked to discover, at least not usually or in that way, that my body has reached out to grasp the doorknob, has sidestepped or avoided the obstacle, has optimized the distance between people in an elevator, and so on. My body is constantly taking care of these coordination issues for me, and although I do not explicitly notice that it is doing so (indeed paying attention to what my body is doing for me can easily mess it up), nevertheless there is a marginal way in which the sense that my body is responding efficiently to its environment informs my overall experience of the world. . . . ."


The essential point missed by Kelly as well as by both Searle and Dreyfus is that prereflective experience of the affordances provided by the lived contexts of being-in-the world establishes any being's developing sense of its own situation in the world in global as well as specific ways. The rabbit's underground den, and the hole/passageway to it, constitute its personal environmental niche, within which it has experienced (thus known) from birth a sense of security, of well-being. That sense of security is laid down deeply in preconscious, subconscious, even unconscious grounding senses of well-being that summon the rabbit to return to that site of security when its situation outside the hole, the den, provokes fear or anxiety.

Kelly next attempts to characterize prereflective experience and awareness in the doorknob example in terms of a human bodily instinct, thus reducing prereflective awareness to an entirely un-conscious response functioning at the level of instinct. Instincts are, to be sure, some of the early affordances provided to living beings by nature, but the question we are interested in is the development of broadly conscious awareness of our own temporally changing situations in the world that enables us to orient ourselves to many aspects of our situation at once.

Signs, significations, meanings have their roots in a worldly semiosis that we and our evolutionary forebears experience preconsciously, but in the developmental history of consciousness they do not remain isolated in preconsciousness. They rise into consciousness as a unified context of situational being-in-a-world of which we, like our forebears in evolution, can and do 'make sense'. What calls out for investigation by us at this point in the attempt to understand consciousness is how -- by what means -- consciousness as a protoconscious field in the evolution of species absorbs and includes prereflective and increasingly reflective experience. It is this terrain of experience in the evolutionarily and developmentally increasing presence to itself of consciousness in and of the world that requires investigation.

Consciousness as we experience it evolves out of an emergent bottom-up process of interaction between <self-awareness> and <world>. The evolution of consciousness to our point, our situation, in awareness as supplemented by thinking has grown from the history of the 'worlding' of innumerable sensed 'worlds', beginning inchoately in the affectivity of primordial organisms, as Maturana, Varela, Panksepp, and others have recognized it. The origins and development in species of feeling, emotion, seeking behavior, and reflection present an immense history of being, an archaeology of consciousness, that has produced our own ability to think. question, and critique the nature of our being-in-the-world and thus to interrogate the nature of the 'reality' within which we exist.

Our species and its consciousness are the result of an uncounted, unknown, multitude of affordances provided within nature that have enabled the development of the awareness of being-in-situation. The entire spectrum of these affordances has grounded our own social formations, cultures, arts, philosophies, and sciences. Note that social formations and even cultures are not solely our human attainment. Meaning for us, as for all creatures that have preceded us in evolution, arises ontologically out of the subjectively-objectively- experienced situational terrain of lived being sensed, apprehended, from the beginnings of life on our planet and likewise from the beginnings of each of our own lived experiences. We and our emotions -- and indeed our 'minds' -- are thus bound up with all forms of life, with life in general, as a second stage in the evolution of nature. Mind does not detach itself from nature but emerges from nature, and thus 'the mind-body problem' is properly understood as a matter of an experiential interrelation given in nature.
 
There are lots of knees to watch here ... and I'm not even sure what I'm doing here ... except that I'm anxious? a bit to see what we do with what looks like pieces of a puzzle that don't fit ...

Maybe they do fit, and we will eventually see how they fit together.

"Camus sees the very essential structure of the absurd residing in the disconnect, the "divorce" between our desires and reasonings on one side and the irrational world on the other."

Who wrote that, and where? I'm not an expert on Camus but have read a number of his novels. As I think I've mentioned before, the most memorable statement of his that I recall vividly was that "the only mistake is to cause suffering," which will do, so far as I'm concerned, as a premise that can subsume in essence most all 'commandments' assumed to have been handed down in world religions. He was an associate of both Sartre and Merleau-Ponty in the post-war years during which they and many others attempted to make sense of their world after two world wars, the Holocaust, the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and a wide range of other human atrocities. The word 'absurd' held a particular meaning for them, most clearly expressed by Sartre in terms of the radical freedom and responsibility laid on human beings in a world in which former assumed guarantees of intrinsic meaningfulness had to be abandoned. The first thought was that the world had become 'absurd' -- i.e., meaningless, no longer guaranteeing any meaning that could be assumed. Existentialism was an effort to think through this situation toward a new ground for meaning in reasoned conscious choices made by humans, individually and collectively. Though the world in itself might be characterized as 'irrational' in the mid-20th century, and its sociopolitical irrationality a product of irrational human impulses, there remained rational and socially just -- ethical -- directions that could and should be pursued by our species.

Is it the war of the hemispheres, a la McGilchrist? ...

I don't think there is necessarily a "war of the [brain's] hemispheres," rather that both the left and right hemispheres contribute to what we become open to and/or closed to in adverse social situations. In the human world by and large, adverse social situations are the result of that which is thought and done by those who accumulate and exercise power over social groups and nations. Indeed, those in power who lack a sense of the natural rights and dignity of all humans manipulate the thinking of the masses of humans they control with the results we have seen in much of our species history -- colonialism, racism, sexism, classism, empire, economic exploitation, war ... the list is long. As a result of this history, our core problem has become one of 're-normalizing' human consciousness to enable the expression of values supporting life itself, the thriving of our species and other species over whom we exercise power and control without an ethical compass.

things to do: evolve a third, mediating hemisphere ... I think some people have these already! When I look to my left I see the beauty of the logical, the clean, neat lines and well laid plans ... When I look to the right, I see no hope of justifying myself to myself - but no matter, here the Master is well seated and keeping an eye on his Emissary ... but, I just realized, in contemplation, there arises this third hemisphere - emergent from the left and right - which of course is why the "third eye" is its symbol. It's serene to reside there because both Master and Emissary are now in harness to ... what should we call it?

What many humans now think of as 'logical' and 'rational' is not necessarily so.
 
Steve, I remember reading this paper by Dreyfus a long time ago and finding it unsatisfactory in its characterization of MP's thought. I've just skimmed it again and come to the same conclusion. I looked for a paper responding to it that is available online and found this one, which looks promising:

Ali Far, Conceptuality of Unreflective Actions in Flow: McDowell-Dryfus Debate

http://download.springer.com/static/pdf/906/art%3A10.7603%2Fs40873-014-0003-3.pdf?originUrl=http://www.globalsciencejournals.com/article/10.7603/s40873-014-0003-3&token2=exp=1466010876~acl=/static/pdf/906/art%253A10.7603%252Fs40873-014-0003-3.pdf?originUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.globalsciencejournals.com%2Farticle%2F10.7603%2Fs40873-014-0003-3*~hmac=f0f6d00191003c4a5c6ee613209409e492a01aa1fd2f9ee48cf789a30cd9d470

I'm still in the midst of moving so will have to put off reading this paper and searching for further relevant discussions until the weekend. I'm glad you brought this Dreyfuss paper forward at this point.

This is information re the Gottlieb paper whose critiques Ali Far extends. I haven't found a copy of it online, but you might be able to locate one:

Gottlieb, G. (2011), Unreflective Action And The Argument From Speed, Pacific Philosophical Quarterly 92 (2011) 338–362
 
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Here is a NDPR review of a book we should probably read at this point,
Joseph K. Schear, ed., Mind, Reason, and Being-in-the-World: The McDowell-Dreyfus Debate. The review provides a helpful overview of the range of responses to Dreyfus's hypothesis among philosophers:

Mind, Reason, and Being-in-the-World: The McDowell-Dreyfus Debate // Reviews // Notre Dame Philosophical Reviews // University of Notre Dame


Description of the Shear book at amazon:

"John McDowell and Hubert L. Dreyfus are philosophers of world renown, whose work has decisively shaped the fields of analytic philosophy and phenomenology respectively. Mind, Reason, and Being-in-the-World: The McDowell-Dreyfus Debate opens with their debate over one of the most important and controversial subjects of philosophy: is human experience pervaded by conceptual rationality, or does experience mark the limits of reason? Is all intelligibility rational, or is there a form of intelligibility at work in our skilful bodily rapport with the world that eludes our intellectual capacities? McDowell and Dreyfus provide a fascinating insight into some fundamental differences between analytic philosophy and phenomenology, as well as areas where they may have something in common.

Fifteen specially commissioned chapters by distinguished international contributors enrich the debate inaugurated by McDowell and Dreyfus, taking it in a number of different and important directions. Fundamental philosophical problems discussed include: the embodied mind, subjectivity and self-consciousness, intentionality, rationality, practical skills, human agency, and the history of philosophy from Kant to Hegel to Heidegger to Merleau-Ponty. With the addition of these outstanding contributions, Mind, Reason, and Being-in-the-World is essential reading for students and scholars of analytic philosophy and phenomenology."


Further comments on the book:

"The exchange some years ago between John McDowell and Bert Dreyfus raised fundamental questions about the nature of embodied cognition and, in particular, the role of concepts in human perception. This volume makes available their strikingly yet subtly opposing positions in the opening section so as to mobilize a great deal of very interesting reflection in the essays that follow - with a fascinating sketch of the historical and conceptual background to these issues provided by Charles Taylor in the opening commentary. This is Anglo-American philosophy at its most worthwhile, maintaining its sense of rigour and argument while also reaching to be continuous with the large and important philosophical themes to be found in other traditions of Philosophy." - Akeel Bilgrami, Columbia University, USA

"Starting with new papers by McDowell and Dreyfus reformulating their dispute about rationality and encountering the world, Joseph Schear has collected a series of new, very high quality, responses to the debate, from a range of distinguished thinkers. Working through them one encounters philosophical argument that inspires, illuminates, and raises even more questions. The collection is essential reading for anyone thinking about these fundamental issues." - Paul Snowdon, University College London, UK

"Joseph Schear provides us with a much-needed compilation of this whole 'battle of myths' that began when Hubert Dreyfus presented a challenge to John McDowell’s theory of perception with his 2005 Presidential Address to the American Philosophical Association." - Eric. J. Mohr, Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA, USA
 
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I've found the last paper in Shear's book online. It is Dan Zahavi, "Mindedness, mindlessness and first-person authority," and I look forward to reading it tonight {if I have any energy left}.

http://cfs.ku.dk/staff/zahavi-publications/Mindedness__mindlessness_and_first-person_authority.pdf

Abstract: "Whereas the recent exchange between Dreyfus and McDowell has largely highlighted differences in their respective accounts, my focus in the following will be on what I take to be some of their shared assumptions. More specifically, I wish to argue that Dreyfus’s frequent reference to mindless coping is partly motivated by his endorsement of a conception of mindedness that is considerably closer to McDowell’s view than one might initially have assumed. In a second step, I will discuss to what extent the notions of mindlessness and conceptual mindedness can do justice to the first-personal character of our experiential life. In pursuing this issue, I will at the same time challenge Dreyfus’ claim that his position is one with a venerable phenomenological ancestry."
 
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Here is a NDPR review of a book we should probably read at this point,
Joseph K. Schear, ed., Mind, Reason, and Being-in-the-World: The McDowell-Dreyfus Debate. The review provides a helpful overview of the range of responses to Dreyfus's hypothesis among philosophers:

Mind, Reason, and Being-in-the-World: The McDowell-Dreyfus Debate // Reviews // Notre Dame Philosophical Reviews // University of Notre Dame


Description of the Shear book at amazon:

"John McDowell and Hubert L. Dreyfus are philosophers of world renown, whose work has decisively shaped the fields of analytic philosophy and phenomenology respectively. Mind, Reason, and Being-in-the-World: The McDowell-Dreyfus Debate opens with their debate over one of the most important and controversial subjects of philosophy: is human experience pervaded by conceptual rationality, or does experience mark the limits of reason? Is all intelligibility rational, or is there a form of intelligibility at work in our skilful bodily rapport with the world that eludes our intellectual capacities? McDowell and Dreyfus provide a fascinating insight into some fundamental differences between analytic philosophy and phenomenology, as well as areas where they may have something in common.

Fifteen specially commissioned chapters by distinguished international contributors enrich the debate inaugurated by McDowell and Dreyfus, taking it in a number of different and important directions. Fundamental philosophical problems discussed include: the embodied mind, subjectivity and self-consciousness, intentionality, rationality, practical skills, human agency, and the history of philosophy from Kant to Hegel to Heidegger to Merleau-Ponty. With the addition of these outstanding contributions, Mind, Reason, and Being-in-the-World is essential reading for students and scholars of analytic philosophy and phenomenology."


Further comments on the book:

"The exchange some years ago between John McDowell and Bert Dreyfus raised fundamental questions about the nature of embodied cognition and, in particular, the role of concepts in human perception. This volume makes available their strikingly yet subtly opposing positions in the opening section so as to mobilize a great deal of very interesting reflection in the essays that follow - with a fascinating sketch of the historical and conceptual background to these issues provided by Charles Taylor in the opening commentary. This is Anglo-American philosophy at its most worthwhile, maintaining its sense of rigour and argument while also reaching to be continuous with the large and important philosophical themes to be found in other traditions of Philosophy." - Akeel Bilgrami, Columbia University, USA

"Starting with new papers by McDowell and Dreyfus reformulating their dispute about rationality and encountering the world, Joseph Schear has collected a series of new, very high quality, responses to the debate, from a range of distinguished thinkers. Working through them one encounters philosophical argument that inspires, illuminates, and raises even more questions. The collection is essential reading for anyone thinking about these fundamental issues." - Paul Snowdon, University College London, UK

"Joseph Schear provides us with a much-needed compilation of this whole 'battle of myths' that began when Hubert Dreyfus presented a challenge to John McDowell’s theory of perception with his 2005 Presidential Address to the American Philosophical Association." - Eric. J. Mohr, Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA, USA

Fascinating - I've been interested in Dreyfus account of expert performance - in terms of my own experiences with (at the non-expert level) of weightlifting and martial arts - Montero's challenge is fascinating, based on her own experiences as a ballet dancer ... could their be gender differences in expert performance? Traditional martial arts accounts are of an effortless performance - that is the goal, to act without thought - consider drunken Kung-fu, so Montero's account of a richly minded expert performance is fascinating ...
 
From Barbara Montero's blog:

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Most of my research focuses on two very different notions of body: body as the physical or material basis of the mind, and body as the moving, breathing, flesh and blood instrument we use when we run, walk, or dance. The first line of research has led me to question whether physicalism is best thought of as the theory that everything, including consciousness, is ultimately accounted for by physics. This was the topic of my dissertation and has been an ongoing interest of mine. I was struck, as a graduate student, by how many philosophers had strong views as to the truth of physicalism, yet rarely was it made clear just how we were supposed to understand what it means to be physical. This was not always the case. Descartes, for example, had a beautiful answer to this question: the essence of the physical, or of body, is extension—extension in length, breadth, and depth. Today, however since physics has revealed that matter, as Bertrand Russell put, it is “as ghostly as anything in a spiritualist séance” we cannot accept Descartes’ definition. My research on the “body side” of the mind-body problem has thus investigated what, if not physics, grounds our understanding of the physical. And in the papers I have written on the mind-body problem since my dissertation I have endeavored to illustrate just what philosophy of mind looks like in a “post-physical” world.
 
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