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Dec. 28th show...." and stuff....".
- Thread starter ondafritz
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skunkape
Paranormal Maven
Canibalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller?
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Or did you mean "choad?"
Aaron LeClair
Paranormal Maven
They'd get along and be buds. Think of something crueler skunk. I know you can.
Aaron LeClair
Paranormal Maven
What moovie dat? I'm bored and have to watch it. Is there titty in it? Or is "Canibalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller" the name of it? Guess I could go to IMD and see, nm.
Gareth
Nothin' to see here
Those are hilarious, but... *by* Knell? I really wonder, don't you?
But... but... they said, "by Bill Knell". Hang on a minute... youre not suggesting he would plagiarise someone else's material are you?
Kevin Daly
Skilled Investigator
Do you refer to this shameful pillorying of a fine upstanding researcher, author, motion picture consultant thingy, humanitarian and puppy merchant?
(He really could save himself a lot of trouble by spinning that last one better - just advertise them as UnPuppies<SUP>TM</SUP> - "The Puppy For When They Just Won't Let You Have A Puppy").
It could be time to branch out into not selling ponies.
PS. As I was enumerating his many achievements I was struck by a certain resemblance to the claimed biography of one L. Ron Hubbard.
...which is a good example of why consumer protection episodes like this one are both appropriate and necessary. Sociopathic lying conmen if allowed to ply their trade unhindered can grow up to be cult leaders.
Koji K.
Skilled Investigator
Very enjoyable episode, and sadly a necessary one. I look forward to the day (if ever it comes) when we can separate the "fraud exposing" from the substantive paranormal chat, but for now it's probably best to focus on cleaning up the field.
I did not know who Bill Knell was beforehand but now I am fairly glad he has been exposed for the apparent fraud he seems to be.
A couple of thoughts:
1.) Re checking databases. I think in future maybe improving the scope of "vetting" resources used might improve the chances of catching anything. I fear we are becoming a "google world" where if something doesn't exist on the internet, it doesn't exist at all... ever try referencing a book on wikipedia? It drives them crazy. (For some reason this always reminds me of the original Rollerball movie, where information not stored in the central library computer simply doesn't exist and is not missed.)
That said I'm not suggesting going to a library and using microfiche, but maybe something like Lexis or Factiva (which many public libraries will offer free, if limited, access to.) I'm not a journalist but I have heard this is "industry standard" for vetting. I've found that both these sources tend to be more comprehensive than the databases newspapers and magazines put out on their own websites (why, I have no idea.)
Not that I am faulting the hosts for the due diligence they performed for this episode- just suggesting some possible extra tools to consider using.
2.) The first thing that came out of Knell's mouth was about his father being an Air Force General. Out of curiousity, did anyone happen to check this?
I did not know who Bill Knell was beforehand but now I am fairly glad he has been exposed for the apparent fraud he seems to be.
A couple of thoughts:
1.) Re checking databases. I think in future maybe improving the scope of "vetting" resources used might improve the chances of catching anything. I fear we are becoming a "google world" where if something doesn't exist on the internet, it doesn't exist at all... ever try referencing a book on wikipedia? It drives them crazy. (For some reason this always reminds me of the original Rollerball movie, where information not stored in the central library computer simply doesn't exist and is not missed.)
That said I'm not suggesting going to a library and using microfiche, but maybe something like Lexis or Factiva (which many public libraries will offer free, if limited, access to.) I'm not a journalist but I have heard this is "industry standard" for vetting. I've found that both these sources tend to be more comprehensive than the databases newspapers and magazines put out on their own websites (why, I have no idea.)
Not that I am faulting the hosts for the due diligence they performed for this episode- just suggesting some possible extra tools to consider using.
2.) The first thing that came out of Knell's mouth was about his father being an Air Force General. Out of curiousity, did anyone happen to check this?
Siani
Despiser of religious nuts
I'm just listening to the last few minutes of the show now. Wow. What a stinking scumbag. Ripping off wheelchair-bound people, threatening the lives of elderly men, stealing, lying, plagiarising - what next?
Congratulations Gene, David and Frank, on such a comprehensive exposé of this vile individual. The UFO scene has too many shysters, hoaxers and creeps, and they taint the whole scene. Those of us who have witnessed anomalies often carry a heavy burden. We don't need any extra weight added to that burden by conmen like Knell.
As for the puppy scam, people who own pets often do so to fill some kind of emotional need. For some people, their pets are their only companions. To take money off anyone, vulnerable or not, for a puppy that doesn't exist, is evil. There's a hope and expectation involved in getting a new pet, that is utterly unlike waiting for a new laptop, camera, diamond ring, etc, to arrive. People getting a pup not only lay out on the cost of the pup itself, but on purchasing all the stuff it will need, such as food, bowls, collars, leashes, bedding, etc. Thanks to Knell, many people have been left with a houseful of puppy stuff mocking them in the absence of their promised pet. This man needs to be in jail. His crimes are dirty, cowardly and cruel.
Congratulations Gene, David and Frank, on such a comprehensive exposé of this vile individual. The UFO scene has too many shysters, hoaxers and creeps, and they taint the whole scene. Those of us who have witnessed anomalies often carry a heavy burden. We don't need any extra weight added to that burden by conmen like Knell.
As for the puppy scam, people who own pets often do so to fill some kind of emotional need. For some people, their pets are their only companions. To take money off anyone, vulnerable or not, for a puppy that doesn't exist, is evil. There's a hope and expectation involved in getting a new pet, that is utterly unlike waiting for a new laptop, camera, diamond ring, etc, to arrive. People getting a pup not only lay out on the cost of the pup itself, but on purchasing all the stuff it will need, such as food, bowls, collars, leashes, bedding, etc. Thanks to Knell, many people have been left with a houseful of puppy stuff mocking them in the absence of their promised pet. This man needs to be in jail. His crimes are dirty, cowardly and cruel.
CapnG
Devil's Advocate
C.H.U.D., yes. There was apparently a sequel too. Also immortalizied in the Simpsons episode in which Homer must go to get his car back from New York in which Homer concludes his flashback sequence explaining why he never wants to go back there by uttering "...and that's when the CHUDs came at me..." to which Marge adds "Well of course you're going to think that way if all you remember is the pimps and the CHUDs!"
skunkape
Paranormal Maven
Grind him into puppy-chow...feet first, with a coffee-grinder.
Mothra
Oh, I see what you did there
John Goodman plays a cop at the end , I thinks its his first movie. He gets eaten.
Brian Now
Paranormal Pimp
It's really too bad he didn't stick around for the full roasting. But oh well...
The really good thing about this "outting" of Knell is that soon (if not already) internet searches will begin referencing this episode, and probably even this very thread...for perpetuity!
It's going to get harder for people like him to maintain his imaginary reputation.
The really good thing about this "outting" of Knell is that soon (if not already) internet searches will begin referencing this episode, and probably even this very thread...for perpetuity!
It's going to get harder for people like him to maintain his imaginary reputation.
Koji K.
Skilled Investigator
Apologies if this has already been pointed out, but apparently the wife of Bill Knell appeared on an episode of "Christina's Court" (a Judge Judy type of show), being "sued" by no less than Chyna, the wrestling star, for fraudulent puppy-selling.
http://www.dogchannel.com/media/dog-news/chyna-takes-dog-breeder-to-court.aspx.pdf
chyna - Google Search
No luck trying to find video, could be amusing...
BTW, on the theme of dogs, why order dogs from a breeder to begin with when there are so many shelter dogs that need homes? If you do want a specific breed, at least find a place where you can go and inspect the dog first... the concept of "internet order" dogs seems pretty repulsive given that the seller, who should be caring for the animals, has no idea who you are or why you want them if they're not meeting you first.
http://www.dogchannel.com/media/dog-news/chyna-takes-dog-breeder-to-court.aspx.pdf
chyna - Google Search
No luck trying to find video, could be amusing...
BTW, on the theme of dogs, why order dogs from a breeder to begin with when there are so many shelter dogs that need homes? If you do want a specific breed, at least find a place where you can go and inspect the dog first... the concept of "internet order" dogs seems pretty repulsive given that the seller, who should be caring for the animals, has no idea who you are or why you want them if they're not meeting you first.
Siani
Despiser of religious nuts
Couldn't agree more. My last dog came from a shelter, he recently passed away, and I've got a little dog from the same shelter coming to live with me in the next few days. Back on topic - I hope the various authorities concerned pool their data, and give Knell what he deserves.
7 String
All things 7
The cat is out of the bag. Bill Knell's name is mentioned here, our home page, and in the show description. There's no escaping us.
Soooooooo,,,,,,, we can now search his name and actually find it connected to something he actually has something to do with, although I doubt that he will be mentioning The Paracast anytime soon.
~A
pininmefin
Skilled Investigator
bINGO!!! jEFF NAILED IT!!!
DrLogic
Skilled Investigator
Hi guys, newbie here!
I've been listening to the show for a few months and have been meaning to join up, having listened to this last show i had to voice my appreciation of a job well done.
I think soon enough an easy vetting process will be those who refuse to come on your show lol.
Keep up the good work!
I've been listening to the show for a few months and have been meaning to join up, having listened to this last show i had to voice my appreciation of a job well done.
I think soon enough an easy vetting process will be those who refuse to come on your show lol.
Keep up the good work!
spookchild
Paranormal Novice
I have always had a passive interest in the paranormal, but only since I have been listening to podcasts in the last year has my interest turned more into an active searching for the truth. I am so glad that I somehow found The Paracast during this time. Gene and David, with this most recent show it is becoming clear that people like you are a complete necessity if this field is to gain any credibility with the mainstream world in the future. The hoaxsters and shysters will speak for the whole movement to an unquestioning public unless people like you step forward and rip the curtain back and expose these people for who they are. There has to be a "revolution" of sorts that comes from within, and I see it beginning with events like your show of Dec. 28. The mainstream world will continue to lump the hoaxsters in with the honest researchers and view them all as charlatans unless they are "outed", and the credibility factor is jacked up a notch if the outing is done by people within the field, in my opinion. Thank you for the service you are providing. The Bill Knell expose was brilliantly executed.
Mothra
Oh, I see what you did there
I wonder what poor author he stole that from.
I love how he started throwing digs at David by saying "since you like checking facts so much". I literilly laughed out loud at that. You guys did a good thing with this episode. The second half was also good, Frank Warren would make a worthy follow-up guest. The 2 hour show just flew by.
Everyone of my dogs since like forever have been mutts from the pound, just wonderful companions and friends.
People who prey on other people are a waste of skin and should be culled from the herd.
Dedicated to Bill and his kind