Do YOU have an "Anti-Creativity Bias?"

[mike]

fwiw: call me selfish, but, I have NO kidz in the fight...

Same here, ive been married for 26 years now, but we decided long ago not to have children.
My wife comes from a family of 12 kids, most of them had 3 kids each, there was just no need for us to add to that list.

I found this quote about the local carbon tax significant

On World Population Day, 11 July, the National President of Sustainable Population Australia, said the Australian Government's announced target of a 5 per cent reduction in carbon emissions by 2020 would be 'useless' by 2020 because of Australia’s continuing population growth.Ms Kanck said it seemed to be beyond the intellect of both Government and Greens MPs to understand that more people means more carbon pollution.
“Even if the government’s emissions target is met by all existing Australians, based on current rates of population growth any benefit gained will have been completely wiped out before we get to 2020," she said.
“It gets worse – the larger population will then have to reduce emissions by 20 per cent (instead of the 5 per cent required in 2011) to bring the total emissions back to 2011 targets, effectively to just stand still.
“Reining in population growth is essential if any impact is to be made in reducing greenhouse gas emissions. While the opponents of a carbon tax will make much of the fact that our electricity prices will rise by around 10% as a consequence, a much bigger contributor already to electricity prices is population increase.

http://www.population.org.au/

Again population hasnt factored into the equation, its been left out of the equation and as such the projections are flawed.
The projected gained benefit, will be wiped out by the missing factor, population growth
They are treating the symptoms, not the cause

Personally i think the state of the planet is tied into the UFO issue, it reflects on us as a species and is a marker for our intellect, and it reflects who we are as potential neighbours

 

[The Pair of Cats]

My apologies... Sometimes I need to remind myself that this is a forum that is supposed to address "paranormal" subjects, not those subjects that we all know are as real as real can get: too bad this important aspect of our consensual reality is being trumped by other more (ahem) pressing issues: food, water, 911, the ME, US imperialism, freedom, survival, your kidz and mother-in-law blah, blah gawk... Oh well, onwards and outwards--DAMN them you-foes if they ain't part of any solutions and if they are: take notes...!

No worries Chris In any event creativity in dealing with all these subjects is exactly what is needed. In thinking and in action.

 

[mike]

Water and food are being controlled by giant multi-national Corporations who have zero interest in our welfare or well being. Possibly our next round of wars could be fought over theses same commodities.

Wars over water are on the cards

[SIZE=-1]When President Anwar Sadat signed the peace treaty with Israel in 1979, he said Egypt will never go to war again, except to protect its water resources. King Hussein of Jordan has said he will never go to war with Israel again except over water and the Untied Nation Secretary General Boutros Boutros-Ghali has warned bluntly that the next war in the area will be over water.[/SIZE]

 

[The Pair of Cats]

Wars over water are on the cards

Agreed. And add into the equation global monoliths like Monsanto wanting to control the seed crops with their genetically modified "terminator" seeds and wars for food will be next.

 

[Wade]

It's kind of ironic chris, given your studies of the pueblo tribes how your admonishment turned this post around in that where it seemed to be headed and where it ended up

I'm refering to what the clown societies (Zuni i believe ? ) consumed in transitional times

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

Don't forget liquidfied Gas as a source which is a major push all over the World both South and North poles will be mined like it or not those folks with the big cigars don't give a dam about ethics unless there's a buck to be made?

 

[mike]

I remember a david suzuki lecture many years ago, where he suggested each person need 4 acres of farmland a year to grow the food they need.

these figures are from 2008

Total Earth's solid surface is , 57,500,000 sq mi. Now, there are 640 acres per square mile which when multiplies together =
36,800,000,000 total acres on land to be divided up.
Latest World census figures as of Dec. 10, 2008 = 6,867,020,300 people living on Earth as of today. Divide the acres of land by the number of people and you get = 5.36 acres of land for every single person on Earth.

As you can see we are very close to the limit.
If you factor in land like deserts , urban housing etc that cant be used for food production that gets even tighter.
Now we can use hydroponics and desalinated water to push a little further, but the numbers show we are close if not over the limit

indeed the optimum population trust say

We are already eating into our capital, collectively consuming the renewable resources of 1.5 planets.

Water again

Falling water tables are already adversely affecting harvests in some countries, including China, the world’s largest grain producer. A groundwater survey released in Beijing in August 2001 revealed that the water table under the North China Plain, which produces over half of that country’s wheat and a third of its corn, is falling faster than earlier reported. Overpumping has largely depleted the shallow aquifer, forcing well drillers to turn to the region’s deep fossil aquifer, which is not replenishable

concerns are mirrored in a <!--Add this page: World Bank-->World Bank report: “Anecdotal evidence suggests that deep wells [drilled] around Beijing now have to reach 1,000 meters [more than half a mile] to tap fresh water, adding dramatically to the cost of supply.” In unusually strong language for a Bank report, it foresees “catastrophic consequences for future generations” unless water use and supply can quickly be brought back into balance.

http://www.eoearth.org/article/Aquifer_depletion

This is literally living on borrowed time, when those aquifers run out..........
China at least has taken steps to curb its population growth, but can such steps be taken in a democracy ?
Who would vote for such a scheme as the one child policy of china ?

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

Mike ,
You must remember that desalation plants will pop up all over the place as each nation tries to save there own fresh water aquifers and a number of nations are build them in poor states as part of the economic competition. Also a growing trend is to repumping swege wast after it refined back into Aquifers mind you it will take a very long time to replesish these thousands of years old systems.

 

[mike]

Here is where i think unbridled population expansion has a bearing on the UFO issue .

<dir><dir>If the current world population stopped using fossil fuels and lived a western European lifestyle based entirely on renewable energy, it would need, in total, 2.8 Earths - nearly two more planets - to support it, according to ecological footprinting calculations.(
Living Planet Report, 2004, based on 2001 population figures.) On that basis, the world could support 36 per cent ([SUP]1/[SUB]2.8 ) of the population - 2.2 billion. [/SUB][/SUP]
[SUP][SUB]　
• The Earth could support only 450 million people if all its inhabitants emitted carbon dioxide at US rates. Current US emission rates would require 13.5 Earths to absorb them without harmful effects to the atmosphere. An "Americanised" planet would thus be able to support only 7 per cent (1/13.5 ) of the world population – 450 million. (
[/SUB][/SUP][SUP][SUB]Living Planet Report, 2004, based on 2001 population figures.)
[/SUB][/SUP]</dir></dir>

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/submissions/opt.sub.bullets.climate.Jul06.pdf

Figures like needing 2.8 earths, or 13.5 earths would have to disturb any alleged galactic neighbours, if we got our hands on FTL drives, we'd spread like locusts

Imagine the scenario below but with FTL drives........



---------- Post added at 06:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:52 PM ----------

This is an 8 part lecture, but it explains the situation very very well

Now the title is The Most IMPORTANT Video You'll Ever See , thats a very bold claim, but if you take the time to watch it, you might find you agree.


http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6A1FD147A45EF50D