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cottonzway
I was saying boo-urns
A few simple things here.
That lady is obviously wacky and is sourcing Rense in general. That should pretty much tell you right there that you can move along, there is nothing to see in those kind of claims.
However,....
I do think that there is a lot of validity to the claims of chemtrails. Does that mean every single contrail is a chemtrail? Of course not. Do I think it is a nefarious conspiracy to KILL humanity by the "NWO" dark overlords? No. Do I think there is wreckless testing on various issues such as weather modification and satellite imagery that use compounds like barium that have negative side effects on people? You bet.
Yeah, that lady is ignorant and crazy. If you think every single contrail is exactly that then you are very naive IMO. Geo-Engineering is a very legit thing. I have no doubt that testing like that is going on. I don't think the intentions are nefarious, but some of it is wreckless because of the elements being used having negative side effects on people and that it is being covered up for sure.
Like most divisive topics like this the truth is somewhere in the middle.
That lady is obviously wacky and is sourcing Rense in general. That should pretty much tell you right there that you can move along, there is nothing to see in those kind of claims.
However,....
I do think that there is a lot of validity to the claims of chemtrails. Does that mean every single contrail is a chemtrail? Of course not. Do I think it is a nefarious conspiracy to KILL humanity by the "NWO" dark overlords? No. Do I think there is wreckless testing on various issues such as weather modification and satellite imagery that use compounds like barium that have negative side effects on people? You bet.
Yeah, that lady is ignorant and crazy. If you think every single contrail is exactly that then you are very naive IMO. Geo-Engineering is a very legit thing. I have no doubt that testing like that is going on. I don't think the intentions are nefarious, but some of it is wreckless because of the elements being used having negative side effects on people and that it is being covered up for sure.
Like most divisive topics like this the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Thpirathy
Paranormal Novice
A contrail is never a chemtrail. Contrails exist and physicists, meteorologists, pilots etc support their existence. Chemtrails on the other hand have no substantial proof they exist.
You're entitled to that opinion.
Your opinion again but contrails are contrails. However, the theory of chemtrails is sourced from reasoning based on inconclusive evidence, conjecture and supposition. That would make physicists, meteorologists, pilots and any third grade child who understands the simplest of meteorological terms naive.
Again, another opinion which you're entitled to but "Geo-Engineering is a very legit thing" when someone proves it. To date, no one has.
Another opinion, but, how can something be considered wreckless if no one has initially proven the basic element missing from this equation? The existence of chemtrails. Let's start from the beginning before we move forward to the conclusion. You simply cannot expect people to believe this is a cover up when no one could keep their mouths closed about Watergate, let alone a global conspiracy of speculated mass effect. Surely.
Maybe, but until the "truth" is disclosed, one can only continue to postulate and call others naive for not accepting conjecture.
Han
piscator ψ
To be honest the reasons I posted the video was because
(a) chem trails are used to "cloak" (hide) alien space ships and fighter jets.
(b) the person who made the video has obviously done alot of reaserch, just in the wrong places
.
(c) I dislike scaremongers!.
(d) I can read I dont need some nutter to read out someone elses nonsense (who was this video aimed at?).
(e) it reminds me of the "rainbow" conspiracy woman (see below)
(f) I cant believe that people buy into rubbish like this, that to me is more worrying than any conspiracy.
(g) People who seek to profit* from the ignorance of others should be shamed.
* I say profit because this is an obvious case of "hero syndrome" except that usaully in "hero syndrome" cases there is usaully real danger.
(a) chem trails are used to "cloak" (hide) alien space ships and fighter jets.
(b) the person who made the video has obviously done alot of reaserch, just in the wrong places
.(c) I dislike scaremongers!.
(d) I can read I dont need some nutter to read out someone elses nonsense (who was this video aimed at?).
(e) it reminds me of the "rainbow" conspiracy woman (see below)
(f) I cant believe that people buy into rubbish like this, that to me is more worrying than any conspiracy.
(g) People who seek to profit* from the ignorance of others should be shamed.
* I say profit because this is an obvious case of "hero syndrome" except that usaully in "hero syndrome" cases there is usaully real danger.
Thpirathy
Paranormal Novice
I agree with you wholeheartedly. There is nothing to the chemtrail phenomenon aside from ignorance and a deluded misplaced duty to save the world. If the conspiracy theorists wish to save the world then they should do something constructive instead of getting up in arms from their lounge chairs and the comfort of their own homes.
Isn't it strange how the water spray shows a rainbow. Definitely a thpirathy.
Isn't it strange how the water spray shows a rainbow. Definitely a thpirathy.
trainedobserver
Paranormally Disenchanted
My eyes involuntary crossed three times while watching this video. I think its the funky Indian music combined with the pseudo-scientific jargon recited by BrutalTruthMediaMaui.
The ignorance expressed in the "rainbow" video caused me to have pains "deep in my organs."
The ignorance expressed in the "rainbow" video caused me to have pains "deep in my organs."
Angel of Ioren
Friendly Skeptic
The notion of chemtrails is as silly as the people that created those videos.
P
pixelsmith
Guest
I fully agree with cotton. Geo engineering is nothing new and I am also quite certain experimentation with "chemtrails" ( i dislike that term ) has been going on for quite some time. It is perfectly LEGAL to use humans as guinea pigs. There are numerous examples of this practice overt the years.
Angel of Ioren
Friendly Skeptic
I'm mainly talking about the whole conspiracy angle/Alex Jones fear mongering type of chemtrail. That's ridiculous.
Do you mean using humans in the general public as unwilling guinea pigs? That would really depend on the country you live in I guess, but I don't know. I'm quite certain that's illegal over here. It seems to be a human rights issue.
Han
piscator ψ
ok how do you explain that these "chem trails" are as old as aircraft here are some pictures from the 1940s
Please note that none of the aircraft shown above are jet engined!.
maybe we should be worried after all see below
Seriously if you dont take my word for it that chem trails are nonsense do some proper research, or explain to me why
(1) If we where being "crop sprayed" why they would do it from high altitude?
(2) why "chemtrails" are seen every where aircraft are flown? depending on atmospheric conditions.
(3) why you would take the word of scaremongering buffoons over common sense?
I must point out For better or worse I am a person who does not beleive that governments always act with their "subjects" rights first. but in the case of "chemtrails" its just too .... illogical
any questions please ask
Please note that none of the aircraft shown above are jet engined!.
maybe we should be worried after all see below
Seriously if you dont take my word for it that chem trails are nonsense do some proper research, or explain to me why
(1) If we where being "crop sprayed" why they would do it from high altitude?
(2) why "chemtrails" are seen every where aircraft are flown? depending on atmospheric conditions.
(3) why you would take the word of scaremongering buffoons over common sense?
I must point out For better or worse I am a person who does not beleive that governments always act with their "subjects" rights first. but in the case of "chemtrails" its just too .... illogical
any questions please ask
trainedobserver
Paranormally Disenchanted
Google Donald Ewen Cameron for some Canadian hankus pankus.
P
pixelsmith
Guest
Chemtrail Sunscreen Taught In US Schools
William Thomas | May 30 2006
A is for Apple.
B is for Boy.
C is for Chemtrails.
At least this is what one American father found while paging through his child's science book. SmT was astonished to find seventh graders being taught about chemtrails. And geoengineeering their home planet.
Anyone with question about the "spray programs" he now says, "should perhaps just ask their kids."
The chemtrails section is found in the Centre Point Learning Science I Essential Interactions science book. Under "Solutions for Global Warming", section 5.19 features a photo of a big multi-engine jet sporting a familiar orange/red paint scheme.
The caption reads: "Figure 1- Jet engines running on richer fuel would add particles to the atmosphere to create a sunscreen".
The logo on the plane says: "Particle Air".
"I kid you not," SmT insists. "Why did I spend all of that time doing research when I could have just asked my kids?"
Helping habituate children to a life under lethal sunshine and "protective" spray planes, this trippy textbook urges young readers to "Use Sun Block". But its authors are referring to a sunscreen spread across the sky.
"Could we deliberately add particles to the atmosphere?" asks the text, before helpfully suggesting that "Burning coal adds soot to the air."
You might be old enough to recoil at such a notion. But in a country where down is up and wrong is right, your kids could be learning that what used to be bad and a bummer is a now good thing!
RUNNING ON EMPTY
"Be real interesting to see the politics of the folks putting this out." SmT suggests.
In the current White House, those politics are as "crude" as invading oil-rich Iraq over a bogus nuclear threat - while permitting Pakistan to export atom bomb materials to terrorist organizations in return for the chance at an election-boosting capture of Osama bin Laden by US forces in the Hindu Kush later this month. [New Yorker Mar1/04]
Why shouldn't the same petrol politics produce textbooks for children inheriting a nightmare? Led by a piggish petroleum president, with most major nations cutting back, US oil consumption is rising as steeply as supplies of cheap crude are collapsing.
The coal connection is this: In order to briefly "stretch the glide" of the fast-looming end of cheap oil that will utterly transform life as we know it, America's unelected oil president recently revoked pollution regulations on more than 2,000 of the nation's biggest polluting coal-fired power plants.
Ironically, this move - like so many others made by an oil-addled White House - will only hasten an Earthwreck as shattering to all onboard as a lurching square-rigger striking a rocky reef. Except our spaceship is surrounded by the cold, irradiated vacuum of deep space.
It turns out that a single 150-megawatt coal-burning power plant produces more emissions than 300,000 cars. Termed an "Extreme Human health Hazard" by the EPA, microscopic coal particles also rot lungs, stop hearts, kill lakes, choke cities - and stunt the lives of school kids with deadly sulphuric acid rain. [AP Aug27/03; LA Times Aug28/03]
Airborne soot also blocks sunlight, lowering greenhouse temperatures. Volcanic eruptions like Krakatoa and Pinatubo - and globe-circling soot from 1,000 burning oil wells during Desert Storm - belched enough sulphur into the stratosphere to cause a plunge in world temperatures, temporarily slowing global warming.
World scientists looking at deliberately putting megatons more sulphur into a closed, recirculating atmosphere already smoggy enough to depresses orbiting astronauts, decided that a sulphur sunscreen is not a swift idea.
But not this Jr. High science text. "Creating either kind of sunscreen would be cheap," it tells young readers. As if "cheap" is the only consideration.
Even this claim is bogus. SmT says he looked, but the section on the downstream costs associated with the health and environmental effects of massive coal pollution - or the 10 million tons of a chemical sunscreen suggested by the late Edward Teller - "seemed to have been left out."
Ditto "the cost to the solar industry". Or cumulative impacts on kids, critters and plants on which our future depends.
DIMMING PROSPECTS
Sunlight is already on the way out. Repeatedly expressing shock at how quickly our space colony's life-support systems are failing, scientists are finding levels of solar radiation reaching the Earth's surface decreasing by almost 3% a decade.
"Global Dimming" is too small to detect with the eye. "But it has implications for everything from climate change to solar power and even the future sustainability of plant photosynthesis," reports the Guardian.
All those jet-propelled vacations and car trips to the corner store add up. Since 1960, 10% less sunlight has reached Earth's inhabitants. Levels of solar radiation reaching parts of the former coal-belching Soviet Union are down almost 20%.
In any greenhouse, the rule of a green thumb is that every 1% decrease in solar radiation results in a 1% drop in plant productivity.
"It's actually quite a big deal,” says Graham Farquhar, a climate scientist at the Australian National University in Canberra. But get this: Farquhar doesn't think that identified pollutants, "by themselves would be able to produce this amount of global dimming." [Guardian Dec18/03]
The baffled Aussie should check out the role of contrails in turning off sunlight. Since the Jet Age took off in the 1960s, normal condensation trails from five million jet flights every year have been found to block 10% of sunlight across Europe and the USA. Over heavily trafficked Atlantic and American air-routes, artificial cloud cover caused by jet engine pollutants has increased 20%. [Chemtrails Confirmed '04]
Chemtrails are another major sunblock. Measurements taken with a calibrated photometer by Clifford Carnicom in Santa Fe show a rapid reduction in sunlight - from a value of 97% on a “clear day” to around 80% during the early stages of heavy chemtrailing. Using a simple UV radiation meter, this reporter has confirmed similar drops in sunlight beneath artificial "chemcasts" on Canada's west coast.
WHAT JANE AND DICK DIDN'T LEARN IN SCHOOL TODAY
In a country whose self-appointed regime routinely censors scientific studies, at least some 7th grade science are more focused on indoctrinating kids with risky techno "quick-fixes" than conscious conservation and common sense.
Forget science. SmT gazed in disbelief at another schoolbook picture showing a helicopter seeding the ocean with iron particles. These desperate "IronX" experiments did indeed trigger plankton "blooms" that, in turn, transferred tons of atmospheric C02 underwater as those carbon-inhaling critters eventually died and sank to the seafloor.
But – oops! – his kid's science book fails to mention that the resulting ocean blooms also sucked all available oxygen from the seawater, suffocating all marine life in massive, spreading "dead zones". [Chemtrails Confirmed '04]
Where are the picture, SmT wonders, "of people planting trees, or turning down thermostats, or bicycling, or any of the other ways not to add to the problem?"
Though his family gave up the idea of home schooling, he says, "it's perhaps time to reconsider."
Perhaps it's also time to reconsider state-sponsored brainwashing. And other escalating consequences of our carbon addiction, as well.
---------- Post added at 06:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:45 PM ----------
The Associated Press reports today that the Obama administration has held discussions regarding the possibility of “geo-engineering” the earth’s climate to counter global warming by “shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun’s rays.” However, such programs are already being conducted by government-affiliated universities, government agencies, and on a mass scale through chemtrail spraying.
The AP report states that Obama’s science advisor John Holdren is pushing for radical terra forming programs to be explored such as creating an “artificial volcano”. Despite Holdren’s admission that such measures could have “grave side effects,” he added that, “we might get desperate enough to want to use it.”
“Holdren, a 65-year-old physicist, is far from alone in taking geoengineering more seriously. The National Academy of Science is making climate tinkering the subject of its first workshop in its new multidiscipline climate challenges program. The British parliament has also discussed the idea,” reports AP.
“The American Meteorological Society is crafting a policy statement on geoengineering that says “it is prudent to consider geoengineering’s potential, to understand its limits and to avoid rash deployment.”
However, a study of past and ongoing upper atmosphere aerosol programs confirms that the government has been active in this field for years.
The Atmospheric Radiation Measurement (ARM) Program was created in 1989 with funding from the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) and is sponsored by the DOE’s Office of Science and managed by the Office of Biological and Environmental Research.
One of ARM’s programs, entitled Indirect and Semi-Direct Aerosol Campaign (ISDAC), is aimed at measuring “cloud simulations” and “aerosol retrievals”.
Another program under the Department of Energy’s Atmospheric Science Program is directed towards, “developing comprehensive understanding of the atmospheric processes that control the transport, transformation, and fate of energy related trace chemicals and particulate matter.”
The DOE website states that, “The current focus of the program is aerosol radiative forcing of climate: aerosol formation and evolution and aerosol properties that affect direct and indirect influences on climate and climate change.”
U.S. government scientists are already bombarding the skies with the acid-rain causing pollutant sulphur dioxide in an attempt to fight global warming by “geo-engineering” the planet, despite the fact that injecting aerosols into the upper atmosphere carries with it a host of both known and unknown dangers.
The proposal to disperse sulphur dioxide in an attempt to reflect sunlight was discussed in a September 2008 London Guardian article entitled, Geoengineering: The radical ideas to combat global warming, in which Ken Caldeira, a leading climate scientist based at the Carnegie Institution in Stanford, California, promoted the idea of injecting the atmosphere with aerosols.
“One approach is to insert “scatterers” into the stratosphere,” states the article. “Caldeira cites an idea to deploy jumbo jets into the upper atmosphere and deposit clouds of tiny particles there, such as sulphur dioxide. Dispersing around 1m tonnes of sulphur dioxide per year across 10m square kilometres of the atmosphere would be enough to reflect away sufficient amounts of sunlight.”
Experiments similar to Caldeira’s proposal are already being carried out by U.S. government -backed scientists, such as those at the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) Savannah River National Laboratory in Aiken, S.C, who last year began conducting studies which involved shooting huge amounts of particulate matter, in this case “porous-walled glass microspheres,” into the stratosphere.
The project is closely tied to an idea by Nobel Prize winner Paul Crutzen, who “proposed sending aircraft 747s to dump huge quantities of sulfur particles into the far-reaches of the stratosphere to cool down the atmosphere.”
Such programs merely scratch the surface of what is likely to be a gargantuan and overarching black-budget funded project to geo-engineer the planet, with little or no care for the unknown environmental consequences this could engender.
What is known about what happens when the environment is loaded with sulphur dioxide is bad enough, since the compound is the main component of acid rain, which according to the EPA “Causes acidification of lakes and streams and contributes to the damage of trees at high elevations (for example, red spruce trees above 2,000 feet) and many sensitive forest soils. In addition, acid rain accelerates the decay of building materials and paints, including irreplaceable buildings, statues, and sculptures that are part of our nation’s cultural heritage.”
The health effects of bombarding the skies with sulphur dioxide alone are enough to raise serious questions about whether such programs should even be allowed to proceed.
The following health effects are linked with exposure to sulphur.
- Neurological effects and behavioral changes
- Disturbance of blood circulation
- Heart damage
- Effects on eyes and eyesight
- Reproductive failure
- Damage to immune systems
- Stomach and gastrointestinal disorder
- Damage to liver and kidney functions
- Hearing defects
- Disturbance of the hormonal metabolism
- Dermatological effects
- Suffocation and lung embolism
According to the LennTech website, “Laboratory tests with test animals have indicated that sulfur can cause serious vascular damage in veins of the brains, the heart and the kidneys. These tests have also indicated that certain forms of sulfur can cause foetal damage and congenital effects. Mothers can even carry sulfur poisoning over to their children through mother milk. Finally, sulfur can damage the internal enzyme systems of animals.”
Fred Singer, president of the Science Environmental Policy Project and a skeptic of man-made global warming theories, warns that the consequences of tinkering with the planet’s delicate eco-system could have far-reaching dangers.
“If you do this on a continuous basis, you would depress the ozone layer and cause all kinds of other problems that people would rather avoid,” said Singer.
Even Greenpeace’s chief UK scientist - a staunch advocate of the man-made global warming explanation - Doug Parr has slammed attempts to geo-engineer the planet as “outlandish” and “dangerous”.
Stephen Schneider of Stanford University, who recently proposed a bizarre plan to send spaceships into the upper atmosphere that would be used to block out the Sun, admits that geo-engineering could cause “conflicts between nations if geoengineering projects go wrong.”
Given all the immediate dangers associated with bombarding the atmosphere with sulphur dioxide, along with the unknown dangers of other geo-engineering projects, many people are concerned that “chemtrails” are a secret component of the same agenda to alter the Earth’s eco-system.
continued at link below.
The Government Is Already “Geo-Engineering†The Environment
---------- Post added at 06:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:48 PM ----------
History Channel Documentary Validates Chemtrails and Weather Warfare
Nick Pope make an appearance in this video.
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---------- Post added at 06:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:49 PM ----------
Geoengineering: Workshop on Unilateral Planetary Scale Geoengineering
Geoengineering: Workshop on Unilateral Planetary Scale Geoengineering - Council on Foreign Relations
http://www.cfr.org/content/thinktank/GM_CFR_briefing_REV.pdf
William Thomas | May 30 2006
A is for Apple.
B is for Boy.
C is for Chemtrails.
At least this is what one American father found while paging through his child's science book. SmT was astonished to find seventh graders being taught about chemtrails. And geoengineeering their home planet.
Anyone with question about the "spray programs" he now says, "should perhaps just ask their kids."
The chemtrails section is found in the Centre Point Learning Science I Essential Interactions science book. Under "Solutions for Global Warming", section 5.19 features a photo of a big multi-engine jet sporting a familiar orange/red paint scheme.
The caption reads: "Figure 1- Jet engines running on richer fuel would add particles to the atmosphere to create a sunscreen".
The logo on the plane says: "Particle Air".
"I kid you not," SmT insists. "Why did I spend all of that time doing research when I could have just asked my kids?"
Helping habituate children to a life under lethal sunshine and "protective" spray planes, this trippy textbook urges young readers to "Use Sun Block". But its authors are referring to a sunscreen spread across the sky.
"Could we deliberately add particles to the atmosphere?" asks the text, before helpfully suggesting that "Burning coal adds soot to the air."
You might be old enough to recoil at such a notion. But in a country where down is up and wrong is right, your kids could be learning that what used to be bad and a bummer is a now good thing!
RUNNING ON EMPTY
"Be real interesting to see the politics of the folks putting this out." SmT suggests.
In the current White House, those politics are as "crude" as invading oil-rich Iraq over a bogus nuclear threat - while permitting Pakistan to export atom bomb materials to terrorist organizations in return for the chance at an election-boosting capture of Osama bin Laden by US forces in the Hindu Kush later this month. [New Yorker Mar1/04]
Why shouldn't the same petrol politics produce textbooks for children inheriting a nightmare? Led by a piggish petroleum president, with most major nations cutting back, US oil consumption is rising as steeply as supplies of cheap crude are collapsing.
The coal connection is this: In order to briefly "stretch the glide" of the fast-looming end of cheap oil that will utterly transform life as we know it, America's unelected oil president recently revoked pollution regulations on more than 2,000 of the nation's biggest polluting coal-fired power plants.
Ironically, this move - like so many others made by an oil-addled White House - will only hasten an Earthwreck as shattering to all onboard as a lurching square-rigger striking a rocky reef. Except our spaceship is surrounded by the cold, irradiated vacuum of deep space.
It turns out that a single 150-megawatt coal-burning power plant produces more emissions than 300,000 cars. Termed an "Extreme Human health Hazard" by the EPA, microscopic coal particles also rot lungs, stop hearts, kill lakes, choke cities - and stunt the lives of school kids with deadly sulphuric acid rain. [AP Aug27/03; LA Times Aug28/03]
Airborne soot also blocks sunlight, lowering greenhouse temperatures. Volcanic eruptions like Krakatoa and Pinatubo - and globe-circling soot from 1,000 burning oil wells during Desert Storm - belched enough sulphur into the stratosphere to cause a plunge in world temperatures, temporarily slowing global warming.
World scientists looking at deliberately putting megatons more sulphur into a closed, recirculating atmosphere already smoggy enough to depresses orbiting astronauts, decided that a sulphur sunscreen is not a swift idea.
But not this Jr. High science text. "Creating either kind of sunscreen would be cheap," it tells young readers. As if "cheap" is the only consideration.
Even this claim is bogus. SmT says he looked, but the section on the downstream costs associated with the health and environmental effects of massive coal pollution - or the 10 million tons of a chemical sunscreen suggested by the late Edward Teller - "seemed to have been left out."
Ditto "the cost to the solar industry". Or cumulative impacts on kids, critters and plants on which our future depends.
DIMMING PROSPECTS
Sunlight is already on the way out. Repeatedly expressing shock at how quickly our space colony's life-support systems are failing, scientists are finding levels of solar radiation reaching the Earth's surface decreasing by almost 3% a decade.
"Global Dimming" is too small to detect with the eye. "But it has implications for everything from climate change to solar power and even the future sustainability of plant photosynthesis," reports the Guardian.
All those jet-propelled vacations and car trips to the corner store add up. Since 1960, 10% less sunlight has reached Earth's inhabitants. Levels of solar radiation reaching parts of the former coal-belching Soviet Union are down almost 20%.
In any greenhouse, the rule of a green thumb is that every 1% decrease in solar radiation results in a 1% drop in plant productivity.
"It's actually quite a big deal,” says Graham Farquhar, a climate scientist at the Australian National University in Canberra. But get this: Farquhar doesn't think that identified pollutants, "by themselves would be able to produce this amount of global dimming." [Guardian Dec18/03]
The baffled Aussie should check out the role of contrails in turning off sunlight. Since the Jet Age took off in the 1960s, normal condensation trails from five million jet flights every year have been found to block 10% of sunlight across Europe and the USA. Over heavily trafficked Atlantic and American air-routes, artificial cloud cover caused by jet engine pollutants has increased 20%. [Chemtrails Confirmed '04]
Chemtrails are another major sunblock. Measurements taken with a calibrated photometer by Clifford Carnicom in Santa Fe show a rapid reduction in sunlight - from a value of 97% on a “clear day” to around 80% during the early stages of heavy chemtrailing. Using a simple UV radiation meter, this reporter has confirmed similar drops in sunlight beneath artificial "chemcasts" on Canada's west coast.
WHAT JANE AND DICK DIDN'T LEARN IN SCHOOL TODAY
In a country whose self-appointed regime routinely censors scientific studies, at least some 7th grade science are more focused on indoctrinating kids with risky techno "quick-fixes" than conscious conservation and common sense.
Forget science. SmT gazed in disbelief at another schoolbook picture showing a helicopter seeding the ocean with iron particles. These desperate "IronX" experiments did indeed trigger plankton "blooms" that, in turn, transferred tons of atmospheric C02 underwater as those carbon-inhaling critters eventually died and sank to the seafloor.
But – oops! – his kid's science book fails to mention that the resulting ocean blooms also sucked all available oxygen from the seawater, suffocating all marine life in massive, spreading "dead zones". [Chemtrails Confirmed '04]
Where are the picture, SmT wonders, "of people planting trees, or turning down thermostats, or bicycling, or any of the other ways not to add to the problem?"
Though his family gave up the idea of home schooling, he says, "it's perhaps time to reconsider."
Perhaps it's also time to reconsider state-sponsored brainwashing. And other escalating consequences of our carbon addiction, as well.
---------- Post added at 06:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:45 PM ----------
The Associated Press reports today that the Obama administration has held discussions regarding the possibility of “geo-engineering” the earth’s climate to counter global warming by “shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun’s rays.” However, such programs are already being conducted by government-affiliated universities, government agencies, and on a mass scale through chemtrail spraying.
The AP report states that Obama’s science advisor John Holdren is pushing for radical terra forming programs to be explored such as creating an “artificial volcano”. Despite Holdren’s admission that such measures could have “grave side effects,” he added that, “we might get desperate enough to want to use it.”
“Holdren, a 65-year-old physicist, is far from alone in taking geoengineering more seriously. The National Academy of Science is making climate tinkering the subject of its first workshop in its new multidiscipline climate challenges program. The British parliament has also discussed the idea,” reports AP.
“The American Meteorological Society is crafting a policy statement on geoengineering that says “it is prudent to consider geoengineering’s potential, to understand its limits and to avoid rash deployment.”
However, a study of past and ongoing upper atmosphere aerosol programs confirms that the government has been active in this field for years.
The Atmospheric Radiation Measurement (ARM) Program was created in 1989 with funding from the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) and is sponsored by the DOE’s Office of Science and managed by the Office of Biological and Environmental Research.
One of ARM’s programs, entitled Indirect and Semi-Direct Aerosol Campaign (ISDAC), is aimed at measuring “cloud simulations” and “aerosol retrievals”.
Another program under the Department of Energy’s Atmospheric Science Program is directed towards, “developing comprehensive understanding of the atmospheric processes that control the transport, transformation, and fate of energy related trace chemicals and particulate matter.”
The DOE website states that, “The current focus of the program is aerosol radiative forcing of climate: aerosol formation and evolution and aerosol properties that affect direct and indirect influences on climate and climate change.”
U.S. government scientists are already bombarding the skies with the acid-rain causing pollutant sulphur dioxide in an attempt to fight global warming by “geo-engineering” the planet, despite the fact that injecting aerosols into the upper atmosphere carries with it a host of both known and unknown dangers.
The proposal to disperse sulphur dioxide in an attempt to reflect sunlight was discussed in a September 2008 London Guardian article entitled, Geoengineering: The radical ideas to combat global warming, in which Ken Caldeira, a leading climate scientist based at the Carnegie Institution in Stanford, California, promoted the idea of injecting the atmosphere with aerosols.
“One approach is to insert “scatterers” into the stratosphere,” states the article. “Caldeira cites an idea to deploy jumbo jets into the upper atmosphere and deposit clouds of tiny particles there, such as sulphur dioxide. Dispersing around 1m tonnes of sulphur dioxide per year across 10m square kilometres of the atmosphere would be enough to reflect away sufficient amounts of sunlight.”
Experiments similar to Caldeira’s proposal are already being carried out by U.S. government -backed scientists, such as those at the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) Savannah River National Laboratory in Aiken, S.C, who last year began conducting studies which involved shooting huge amounts of particulate matter, in this case “porous-walled glass microspheres,” into the stratosphere.
The project is closely tied to an idea by Nobel Prize winner Paul Crutzen, who “proposed sending aircraft 747s to dump huge quantities of sulfur particles into the far-reaches of the stratosphere to cool down the atmosphere.”
Such programs merely scratch the surface of what is likely to be a gargantuan and overarching black-budget funded project to geo-engineer the planet, with little or no care for the unknown environmental consequences this could engender.
What is known about what happens when the environment is loaded with sulphur dioxide is bad enough, since the compound is the main component of acid rain, which according to the EPA “Causes acidification of lakes and streams and contributes to the damage of trees at high elevations (for example, red spruce trees above 2,000 feet) and many sensitive forest soils. In addition, acid rain accelerates the decay of building materials and paints, including irreplaceable buildings, statues, and sculptures that are part of our nation’s cultural heritage.”
The health effects of bombarding the skies with sulphur dioxide alone are enough to raise serious questions about whether such programs should even be allowed to proceed.
The following health effects are linked with exposure to sulphur.
- Neurological effects and behavioral changes
- Disturbance of blood circulation
- Heart damage
- Effects on eyes and eyesight
- Reproductive failure
- Damage to immune systems
- Stomach and gastrointestinal disorder
- Damage to liver and kidney functions
- Hearing defects
- Disturbance of the hormonal metabolism
- Dermatological effects
- Suffocation and lung embolism
According to the LennTech website, “Laboratory tests with test animals have indicated that sulfur can cause serious vascular damage in veins of the brains, the heart and the kidneys. These tests have also indicated that certain forms of sulfur can cause foetal damage and congenital effects. Mothers can even carry sulfur poisoning over to their children through mother milk. Finally, sulfur can damage the internal enzyme systems of animals.”
Fred Singer, president of the Science Environmental Policy Project and a skeptic of man-made global warming theories, warns that the consequences of tinkering with the planet’s delicate eco-system could have far-reaching dangers.
“If you do this on a continuous basis, you would depress the ozone layer and cause all kinds of other problems that people would rather avoid,” said Singer.
Even Greenpeace’s chief UK scientist - a staunch advocate of the man-made global warming explanation - Doug Parr has slammed attempts to geo-engineer the planet as “outlandish” and “dangerous”.
Stephen Schneider of Stanford University, who recently proposed a bizarre plan to send spaceships into the upper atmosphere that would be used to block out the Sun, admits that geo-engineering could cause “conflicts between nations if geoengineering projects go wrong.”
Given all the immediate dangers associated with bombarding the atmosphere with sulphur dioxide, along with the unknown dangers of other geo-engineering projects, many people are concerned that “chemtrails” are a secret component of the same agenda to alter the Earth’s eco-system.
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The Government Is Already “Geo-Engineering†The Environment
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History Channel Documentary Validates Chemtrails and Weather Warfare
Nick Pope make an appearance in this video.
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Geoengineering: Workshop on Unilateral Planetary Scale Geoengineering
Geoengineering: Workshop on Unilateral Planetary Scale Geoengineering - Council on Foreign Relations
http://www.cfr.org/content/thinktank/GM_CFR_briefing_REV.pdf
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pixelsmith
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Why Do Chemtrails Not Exist? Because They Exist
Zachary T Baker
October 20, 2009
After reading a Time Magazine article Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow last Friday it became evident to me that the spraying of aerosols into the atmosphere exist only if you choose not to believe in it. This may sound Orwellian, but the United States, the Chinese and now Russian governments have all admitted that they are manipulating the weather. Let’s take a moment to ask ourselves why such sick delusional minds would still conjure up such nonsense.
An article titled NASA Rocket to Create Clouds Tuesday was posted on space.com last month which reported on a project dubbed the Charged Aerosol Release Experiment or CARE with the intention of triggering cloud formation around the rocket’s exhaust particles. The artificial clouds were intended to simulate naturally occurring phenomena called noctilucent clouds, which are the highest clouds in the atmosphere.
Wayne Scales, a scientist at Virginia Tech used computer models to study the physics of the artificial dust cloud as it was released. Scales hoped the project would allow scientists to study different aspects of the artificial dust cloud, including the turbulence generated inside the clouds and the distribution of dust particles. “Nothing like this has been done before and that’s why everybody’s really excited about it,” said Scales. CARE is a project of the Naval Research Laboratory and the Department of Defense Space Test Program.
A London Guardian article titled Geo-engineering: The radical ideas to combat global warming published in August of this year argued that the idea of geo-engineering the planet in order to control the climate has been around for more than 50 years, but has remained on the “fringes,” as if it wasn’t already being done.
The story references to a special edition of the journal Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society which are made up of climate scientists and engineers that strongly encourage a wide assessment of geo-engineering techniques. Ken Caldeira, a leading climate scientist based at the Carnegie Institution in Stanford, California believes “We are now, or soon will be, confronting issues of whether, when and how to engineer a climate that is more to our liking.”
Under the Freedom of Information Act Cybercast News Service obtained evidence that showed scientists at the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) Savannah River National Laboratory in Aiken, S.C. were conducting tests and developing computer models of what might happen if a huge amount of particulate matter is shot into the stratosphere. “The overall goal of this task is to understand and evaluate the implications of deploying porous glasses as an agent to reduce global warming,” the DOE work proposal said.
In the early 90’s Paul Crutzen , a Nobel Prize winner and Tom Wigley, a world renowned climate scientist both promoted the concept of artificially cooling the planet. By releasing a cocktail of sulfide gases into the upper atmosphere scientist would possess the ability to reflect the sun’s rays away from the earth therefore causing a cooling effect.
According to an AP interview this April with Dr. John Holdren, the current Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, radical methods of slowing global warming such as shooting particles into the upper atmosphere in order to reflect the sun’s rays were not being ruled out. Dr. Death is also known for his work as co- author of Ecoscience, a government textbook promoting insane population control measures such as forced sterilization.
A London Telegraph article titled Beijing Vows Rain Will Not Fall On Its Parade published in August of this year reported that Zhang Qiang, the deputy head of the city’s weather modification ministry told their state media that anti-rain rockets would be ready for the celebration of the 60th Anniversary of Communist Party Rule. This comes to no surprise, especially when the Los Angeles Times published an article one year earlier titled China plans to halt rain for Olympics. They reported that China’s weather modification team would manipulate the clouds to “keep the open-air stadium dry.” The Times goes on to explain how the Chinese have been “tinkering with the weather since the late 1950s.”
Wang Guohe, director of weather modification for the Chinese Academy of Meteorology says China has “the largest program in the world with the most people involved and the most equipment.” The director goes onto admit their program isn’t advanced as the Russians who he says began sophisticated cloud-seeding in 1986 to prevent radioactive rain from the Chernobyl reactor accident from reaching Moscow. But let’s not take old Wang’s word for it.
An article titled Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow was published last week on Time/CNN’s website. It states that “for just a few million dollars, the mayor’s office will hire the Russian Air Force to spray a fine chemical mist over the clouds before they reach the capital, forcing them to dump their snow outside the city.” According to the Time article Mayor Yury Luzhkov says that their air force is paid to make sure that it doesn’t rain for the Victory Day and City Day celebrations.
The only opposition presented in any of these stories beside the suburbs of Moscow getting a little extra snow is whether controlling the weather is a form of “playing god.” Any, if not all the stories relating to chemtrails, geo-engineering and terraforming make no reference to the possible adverse health effects that spraying the skies with chemicals could have on humans, animals and vegetation. Weather modification may indeed possess many benefits for humanity‘s well being. But this technology becomes deadly once in the hands of a scientific dictatorship whose endgame is reducing the population by 80 percent or more.
These suicidal nihilist see themselves as intellectually/genetically superior to the majority of us. As such, they view our dismay with the practice of cloud seeding as justification to take act on the planet’s behalf. Assuming the cloning of humans was not harmful, the next moral question would be whether people should have that power to play god. Our global masters in the United States, Russia and China have skipped the most important stage whereby the possibility of severe health problems from spraying aerosols on their population is debated in the courts and have assumed the role as our gods.
So before all you delusional “right wing conspiracy nuts” present both government and university public admissions remember this, it will never exist in the minds of those who choose not acknowledge the facts. Just move on to the next person who hopefully hasn’t succumb to the infamous Orwellian state of mind known as doublethink.
Zachary T Baker
October 20, 2009
After reading a Time Magazine article Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow last Friday it became evident to me that the spraying of aerosols into the atmosphere exist only if you choose not to believe in it. This may sound Orwellian, but the United States, the Chinese and now Russian governments have all admitted that they are manipulating the weather. Let’s take a moment to ask ourselves why such sick delusional minds would still conjure up such nonsense.
An article titled NASA Rocket to Create Clouds Tuesday was posted on space.com last month which reported on a project dubbed the Charged Aerosol Release Experiment or CARE with the intention of triggering cloud formation around the rocket’s exhaust particles. The artificial clouds were intended to simulate naturally occurring phenomena called noctilucent clouds, which are the highest clouds in the atmosphere.
Wayne Scales, a scientist at Virginia Tech used computer models to study the physics of the artificial dust cloud as it was released. Scales hoped the project would allow scientists to study different aspects of the artificial dust cloud, including the turbulence generated inside the clouds and the distribution of dust particles. “Nothing like this has been done before and that’s why everybody’s really excited about it,” said Scales. CARE is a project of the Naval Research Laboratory and the Department of Defense Space Test Program.
A London Guardian article titled Geo-engineering: The radical ideas to combat global warming published in August of this year argued that the idea of geo-engineering the planet in order to control the climate has been around for more than 50 years, but has remained on the “fringes,” as if it wasn’t already being done.
The story references to a special edition of the journal Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society which are made up of climate scientists and engineers that strongly encourage a wide assessment of geo-engineering techniques. Ken Caldeira, a leading climate scientist based at the Carnegie Institution in Stanford, California believes “We are now, or soon will be, confronting issues of whether, when and how to engineer a climate that is more to our liking.”
Under the Freedom of Information Act Cybercast News Service obtained evidence that showed scientists at the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) Savannah River National Laboratory in Aiken, S.C. were conducting tests and developing computer models of what might happen if a huge amount of particulate matter is shot into the stratosphere. “The overall goal of this task is to understand and evaluate the implications of deploying porous glasses as an agent to reduce global warming,” the DOE work proposal said.
In the early 90’s Paul Crutzen , a Nobel Prize winner and Tom Wigley, a world renowned climate scientist both promoted the concept of artificially cooling the planet. By releasing a cocktail of sulfide gases into the upper atmosphere scientist would possess the ability to reflect the sun’s rays away from the earth therefore causing a cooling effect.
According to an AP interview this April with Dr. John Holdren, the current Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, radical methods of slowing global warming such as shooting particles into the upper atmosphere in order to reflect the sun’s rays were not being ruled out. Dr. Death is also known for his work as co- author of Ecoscience, a government textbook promoting insane population control measures such as forced sterilization.
A London Telegraph article titled Beijing Vows Rain Will Not Fall On Its Parade published in August of this year reported that Zhang Qiang, the deputy head of the city’s weather modification ministry told their state media that anti-rain rockets would be ready for the celebration of the 60th Anniversary of Communist Party Rule. This comes to no surprise, especially when the Los Angeles Times published an article one year earlier titled China plans to halt rain for Olympics. They reported that China’s weather modification team would manipulate the clouds to “keep the open-air stadium dry.” The Times goes on to explain how the Chinese have been “tinkering with the weather since the late 1950s.”
Wang Guohe, director of weather modification for the Chinese Academy of Meteorology says China has “the largest program in the world with the most people involved and the most equipment.” The director goes onto admit their program isn’t advanced as the Russians who he says began sophisticated cloud-seeding in 1986 to prevent radioactive rain from the Chernobyl reactor accident from reaching Moscow. But let’s not take old Wang’s word for it.
An article titled Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow was published last week on Time/CNN’s website. It states that “for just a few million dollars, the mayor’s office will hire the Russian Air Force to spray a fine chemical mist over the clouds before they reach the capital, forcing them to dump their snow outside the city.” According to the Time article Mayor Yury Luzhkov says that their air force is paid to make sure that it doesn’t rain for the Victory Day and City Day celebrations.
The only opposition presented in any of these stories beside the suburbs of Moscow getting a little extra snow is whether controlling the weather is a form of “playing god.” Any, if not all the stories relating to chemtrails, geo-engineering and terraforming make no reference to the possible adverse health effects that spraying the skies with chemicals could have on humans, animals and vegetation. Weather modification may indeed possess many benefits for humanity‘s well being. But this technology becomes deadly once in the hands of a scientific dictatorship whose endgame is reducing the population by 80 percent or more.
These suicidal nihilist see themselves as intellectually/genetically superior to the majority of us. As such, they view our dismay with the practice of cloud seeding as justification to take act on the planet’s behalf. Assuming the cloning of humans was not harmful, the next moral question would be whether people should have that power to play god. Our global masters in the United States, Russia and China have skipped the most important stage whereby the possibility of severe health problems from spraying aerosols on their population is debated in the courts and have assumed the role as our gods.
So before all you delusional “right wing conspiracy nuts” present both government and university public admissions remember this, it will never exist in the minds of those who choose not acknowledge the facts. Just move on to the next person who hopefully hasn’t succumb to the infamous Orwellian state of mind known as doublethink.
Angel of Ioren
Friendly Skeptic
I googled William Thomas - unsurprisingly he's a conspiracy theorist. Also, the Zachery T Baker article is from Infowars. Not exactly the best source of information.
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pixelsmith
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so kill the fucking messenger then. geez.
Angel of Ioren
Friendly Skeptic
I didn't kill the messenger. I didn't even mention you. I just mentioned what the sources were. No need to take it personally Pixel.
Kandinsky
Curious Cat
I agree to a point. The guys who totally subscribe to chemtrails come with a deformed collection of dark beliefs. Not so much 'silly' as dark and f****d up.
Demons, depopulation, reptilians, Illuminati, NWO and DUMBs populated by evil aliens eating humans is often part of their baggage. They photograph contrails and keep folders of them. Many of them support ideas of abductions and MiLab torture.
Imagine being of the mindset that every time you see contrails you feel victim to a conspiracy to eradicate millions and put the rest in FEMA camps?
It's like they've found the basement room of pessimism, took up the floor and started digging.
Angel of Ioren
Friendly Skeptic
I agree to a point. The guys who totally subscribe to chemtrails come with a deformed collection of dark beliefs. Not so much 'silly' as dark and f****d up.
Demons, depopulation, reptilians, Illuminati, NWO and DUMBs populated by evil aliens eating humans is often part of their baggage. They photograph contrails and keep folders of them. Many of them support ideas of abductions and MiLab torture.
Imagine being of the mindset that every time you see contrails you feel victim to a conspiracy to eradicate millions and put the rest in FEMA camps?
It's like they've found the basement room of pessimism, took up the floor and started digging.
Totally agree with you. You often find that people that think there are chemtrails are the same that think we didn't land on the moon, the NWO will take over the world, Obama is not an American, Greedo shot first, etc.
It's okay, they can think whatever they want, but I still think they are wrong, and I'm entitled to do that if I wish.
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pixelsmith
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i didnt think you meant me, nor did i take it personal. i care little who someone writes for. i care about content.