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10 more years of research Muadib and we can talk. You are unable to look at the bigger picture or go deeper than just scratching the surface. I went down the same road as you are and came to the same conclusions that people with my current knowledge were nuts. I was wrong, dead wrong and so are you.
 
pixelsmith said:
10 more years of research Muadib and we can talk. You are unable to look at the bigger picture or go deeper than just scratching the surface. I went down the same road as you are and came to the same conclusions that people with my current knowledge were nuts. I was wrong, dead wrong and so are you.
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Pixel, you're not actually replying to anything he's posting. You're just saying he's wrong without providing anything even close to actual science. The stuff you did provide was thoroughly debunked as political propaganda. Get away from the politics. Every time you mention Al Gore or carbon taxing, you look foolish. That has nothing to do with the science, only with the politics.
 
skepticalscience.com is probably one of the worst places to get your information. They real in less informed newbies to the subject that do not have the capacity to understand the way science uses the scientific method nor do they look closely at how their graphs and charts are constructed in order to make things appear alarming.

The blind path you and Angel prefer to follow will continue to dismantle the economies of the world and kill more people than you can possibly imagine.
 
Angel of Ioren said:
Pixel, you're not actually replying to anything he's posting. You're just saying he's wrong without providing anything even close to actual science. The stuff you did provide was thoroughly debunked as political propaganda. Get away from the politics. Every time you mention Al Gore or carbon taxing, you look foolish. That has nothing to do with the science, only with the politics.
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He is wrong. Bullshit, I have provided MORE than he has. The stuff he and you provide have been thoroughly debunked LONG ago. Everytime you mention humans are causing global warming of any concern you look very very foolish... and arrogant.
 
Like I said, I was in both your camps until I got my head out of my ass and dug deep, very deep. Follow the money and use your heads boys.
 
Wow Pixel. How many times do I have to say that Al Gore is a politician! He is not a scientist and I disagree with him on a lot of things! Stop trying to poison the well and actually state your facts.
 
ok... Here is your leader from the IPCC, the retired railroad engineer and soft porn writer who commits fraud to fund the scam. Who would you rather we scrutinize for the idiotic movement called CAGW?

The chairman of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), has used bogus claims that Himalayan glaciers were melting to win grants worth hundreds of thousands of pounds.
Rajendra Pachauri’s Energy and Resources Institute (TERI), based in New Delhi, was awarded up to £310,000 by the Carnegie Corporation of New York and the lion’s share of a £2.5m EU grant funded by European taxpayers.
It means that EU taxpayers are funding research into a scientific claim about glaciers that any ice researcher should immediately recognise as bogus. The revelation comes just a week after The Sunday Times highlighted serious scientific flaws in the IPCC’s 2007 benchmark report on the likely impacts of global warming.
The IPCC had warned that climate change was likely to melt most of the Himalayan glaciers by 2035 – an idea considered ludicrous by most glaciologists. Last week a humbled IPCC retracted that claim and corrected its report.
Since then, however, The Sunday Times has discovered that the same bogus claim has been cited in grant applications for TERI.
One of them, announced earlier this month just before the scandal broke, resulted in a £310,000 grant from Carnegie.
 
you have a washed up con-man politician and a railroad engineer/porn writer leading your crusade... nice. :rolleyes:
 
We are at loggerheads about the science. So we have to start at the top and work down. You two want to use the IPCC as your authority. Raj is the leader of your group. We need to base the credibility of your group on its leader and the protocol used by his team of scientists. Many of the original contributors of scientific papers have left the IPCC because of the TOP to Bottom corruption and the "exoneration" of Phil Jones by his own peers who used evidence ENDORSED by Phil Jones to investigate himself... wtf? Raj Pachauri is as corrupt as you can get. Please do some research before you embarrass yourselves further.
 
I can't post any information without you two attacking the messenger... that fine. I understand your frustration in trying to back up your position. So... what do you two think about that Raj guy? You buy your science from a railroad/con man? REALLY?!?
 
Hey Jax, start here and get some background on the leader of the AGW movement. When I look at this man I somehow dont feel comfortable in what he has to say. This man is helping set world policies that affects us and more importantly our children.

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The book, which makes reference to the Kama Sutra, starts promisingly enough as it tells the story of a climate expert with a lament for the denuded mountain slopes of Nainital, in northern India, where deforestation by the timber mafia and politicians has “endangered the fragile ecosystem”.
But talk of “denuding” is a clue of what is to come.
By page 16, Sanjay is ready for his first liaison with May in a hotel room in Nainital. “She then led him into the bedroom,” writes Dr Pachauri.
“She removed her gown, slipped off her nightie and slid under the quilt on his bed… Sanjay put his arms around her and kissed her, first with quick caresses and then the kisses becoming longer and more passionate.
“May slipped his clothes off one by one, removing her lips from his for no more than a second or two.
“Afterwards she held him close. ‘Sandy, I’ve learned something for the first time today. You are absolutely superb after meditation. Why don’t we make love every time immediately after you have meditated?’.”
More follows, including Sanjay and friends queuing to have sexual encounters with Sajni, an impoverished but willing local: “Sanjay saw a shapely dark-skinned girl lying on Vinay’s bed. He was overcome by a lust that he had never known before … He removed his clothes and began to feel Sajni’s body, caressing her voluptuous breasts.”
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Angel and Muadib probably have signed copies.
 
So.. how silly does this movement look now? A ex railroad engineer/con man who lies to get funding, uses hand picked well funded scientists who control the peer review process, manipulate data to fit their agenda, they brag about misappropriating their funds, brag about not sharing their data, and when caught with their pants down they get investigated by fellow global warming advocates who allow the accused to endorse the evidence used to investigate himself.

my mind is blown how you two can sit there and follow this man and his bandits.
 
Dude, it's kind of sad to see you unravel this way when faced with this topic. You're talking about something that has nothing to do with the actual science.

But let's play your game for a moment. The stuff you tout as evidence mostly comes from the Heartland Institute. Look at what their agenda is:

Leak exposes how Heartland Institute works to undermine climate science | Environment | guardian.co.uk

http://www.desmogblog.com/sites/beta.desmogblog.com/files/2012%20Climate%20Strategy.pdf

At the end of the day, all the garbage you mention has little to do with the SCIENCE. That's what we're debating.
 
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