How Bruce Duensing Thinks

[Robert Baird]

Hmmm. I think I am witnessing rationalization at a Quantum level. Let me deconstruct a little bit if I may. I see talk about UFOs evolving and yet that is evidence for there being no aliens involved and rather the cultural inputs Jung speaks to in his foreword to the Tibetan Book of the Dead or other insights to common hallucinations including spacecraft. Because the authors of religious texts inculcated (brainwashed, projected astral visions and so on) themselves as the interpreters for Gods from the heavens means what? It means those authors of lies sought sheeple or at best a way to keep people doing what they wanted them to do. Here are other evolutionary propulsion systems to add to your UFO Imagineering.

Create a Black Hole of a small sort in front of the craft but attached in such a way you can steer the craft almost instantly at light speed. The matter of deceleration may involve a separate device on the rear and one must have a way of tuning them out. Or as you saw in the movie Contact - a wormhole creation (Uniden had a small mechanical means according to Stealthskater) by folding space. Sir Martin Rees said there are dopplegangers in other universes after the Hubble telescope took pics from near the so-called Big Bang. If you have an exact AFFINITY of energy in different places the attraction is powerful enough to bring it together. Einstein spoke of folding space and negative gravity, he was ridiculed in his day but recently it was proven there is negative gravity. Gödel is better for Faster-Than-Light formulation.

Stalker says: They cause us to ask questions and seek knowledge. Are these hints? Are they gifts? When a person comes before the guardians of truth in any era to proclaim the heresy of new truths we first reject, mock, exile and then burn those for being in league with the devil. I find it also very interesting that those who claim contact with the occupants of such "ships" to report the same forms of torture and illumination that mystics, alchemists and scientists of any era report from their own experiences of contact with the ultra-knowledgeable other. Of course we are a little more sensible now in our approach to such discoveries. As the UFO evolves so too do we.

In psychology we see this same game in religious projections and lies. It is called Anthropomorphing and thus god or the Lord looks like us - ego. But let me take the best part of what you call Ultra-Knowledgeable and I call attunement or at-one-ment. I certainly agree there is knowledge in energy as well as some level of consciousness. At times the flashes of enlightenment are over-powering and an individual like Tesla gets the designs of machines he spent the rest of his life manufacturing from memory. Just 15 minutes and you have the new information someone here was wondering about. But despite Tesla saying he was an alien - I have another explanation which I introduce in my thread on him. It is probable he later called this non-force info packets. I would like an example of an alchemist reporting torture by aliens, I know many suffered torture from priestly manipulators of the alien Bible myths including Annunaki and Nephilim. If you are referencing designs such as seen at Abydos or in the work of Da Vinci - sorry no aliens. Time viewing is at work with the Stone.

 

[Burnt State]

Stalker says? Accuracy, please, good sir, and you being a Bard and all that?!

Tesla said he was an alien? I know that from the documentary proposal i researched about Tesla called, Contacting Mars, that he believed he was in contact with Aliens from Mars and that they were a serious threat to us. This marked a major decline in his output and ability to be taken seriously by investors. I imagined him a transformative werewolf of a monster actually, in my movie proposal, with alien like claws for hands that he hid away from nosy journalists, like a reclusive Nosferatu. I saw him lonely, feeding pigeons in a burnt out apartment flat in New York in a side room missing part of its roof, all invaded by decay, torn curtains and Blade Runner like drippings of rusted civilized infrastructure. I saw him curdling into a social abscess, withdrawn into schizoidal states infused with feelings of lost luster like a heroin addicted Bela Lugosi. But when did he say he was an alien?

Time Viewing is at Work With the Stone

uhh, do you have a copyright on that phrase, as I would love to see that as the title of a PKD influenced short story or even broader literary endeavor. Just a stunning turn of phrase. It really reminds me of Andy Goldsworthy's artistic endeavors meandering in and out of time and manipulating its ideas of inception or a starting point.

 

[Robert Baird]

Dear Burnt

I am laughing and yet wondering if you intended to be funny. That is a good and creative thing to be able to create, wonder. The Bards (BRDS) and Troubadours were adept at that and the Kings they ridiculed sometimes did not know who was the target of their humour.

It has been ten years since I wrote my book on Tesla but I do recall him saying he was an alien. And all foreigners with alien or green cards (which are not green) like myself are aliens. He did hook up with Nietzschean goof ball ubermensch theories and someone promoting the Mars agenda though as well. My recollection of his biography titled The White Dove had him feeding the same dove for a long time out of a dilapidated hotel room in Newark New Jersey, not far from his erstwhile enemy Edison. Having been there I would say it is worse than what you describe. I regard the story as sweet and endearing.

There are of course different versions of his demise, and his great grandniece worked for me around 1980-1. I favour the theory he went Black Ops and the fictions you refer to are fictional. Some truth is required in a good cover and he certainly was hermit-like and withdrawn from people who generally had little to offer him and he needed nothing from them. But to compare him with a Nos Feratu is just plain ignorant, he was largely naïve in matters philosophical or occult. I have his father introducing him to the Orphic Mysteries (BRD) through speaking in tongues and his grandfather was the possessor of one of only five Coelbrin (not the Culdee one which is a Christian rip off). A Nos Feratu is a high vampire involved in things like The Last Supper and ways to distribute knowledge through his blood.

Would you like a breakdown on the esoteric status or placement of a Nos Feratu being higher than a Rosicrucian such as the Sarkeny Rend who HRH Nicholas de Vere claim included Vlad. Maybe you already know - so I ask you to place the following in order. Baird, Ovate, Toltec, Druid, Sybll, Peryllat, Alchemist, Hermetic, Mage, Rishi, Bodhisattva, Avatar, Guru and any number of others you wish to include. But you did not give me the usual list of alchemists who were forced to write things or say things before they were let out of dungeons or put (like Aquinas) to work doing what the Church commanded. Perhaps you know the matter of any of them believing in Alien Intervention is nonsense.

Do you know what the Stone is? Many who might be called alchemists who are not alchemists do not know it is a very real thing as well as a metaphorical spiritual attunement. Time Viewing such as Father Ernetti and Enrico Fermi are rumoured to have had (and forced to recant - but some say never really did) in a Chronovisor is a lesser form of viewing the alternate realms and futures possible. Would you like a link to a thread on Da Vinci which I think proves he had a Stone as did his mentor? Maybe you would like one on Father Ernetti and his chronovisor - or both?

 

[DissectionStalker]

Hi RTB, getting Burnt State to engage with you is highly recommended. He is certainly the most creative and artful writer w/graphics at the Paracast forum. You should review his posts if you have the time and interest, and then follow-up with any ideas you might have to add to these. I highly recommend it. Also, at about age 10 he had quite a fantastic sighting of two UFO's. I think he has 2 threads about this. It really made an impression on him all these 30+ years later that he is very well read on UFO related topics. He has a skeptical viewpoint towards such sightings as being ET nuts-and-bolts craft, though his memory is that it seemed realistic at the time. What's most interesting to me is Burnt was absolutely captivated about UFO's and was reading everything he could find on the subject at the time. I honestly believe children's brain development allows for materializing such "fantasy interests", so much so, that the event seems very real. He was obviously a gifted child with a high IQ, imo. Burnt did see witnesses were there present with him, but he never confirmed what they saw with him. Interesting indeed.

Anyway, Burnt is someone I highly respect here, and he has a very friendly attitude vs DissectionStalker, imo. Lol.

 

[Robert Baird]

Dear Stalker

The first response I made here was to a post by Burnt and he gave me my first like. I don't have to agree with someone to like them, but I also don't cater much to a love of blissful ignorance. Have you read my thread dealing with the excellent psychological research in a book called The Wonder Child, I guess it gives some children a lot more ability to creatively manifest their reality than you do. And I enjoy tripping the light fantastic or Imagineering with the best of Indigo children which I have been called. That thread also includes the Third Eye.

Here is a thread on Time Viewing and related things.

Father Ernetti, Scrying, Chronovisors and the Stone

 

[DissectionStalker]

Thanks. I'll check-out your threads, but I absorb information slowly and am detail oriented and that slows my learning process. As a child, I manifested quite powerful realistic looking events including a rocket launch with excellent visuals and sound. I was convinced it was real, but the location made it not possible. However, these events were at night and it's possible I experienced these with "dream chemicals" released in my brain, though I fully believe I was awake when seeing such things. I had quite an excellent dream life as a child.

 

[Burnt State]

I imagine Bruce with his scrying stone in a dark office, I mean stone chamber, contemplating life's mysteries, but it wssn't like that. He played with model trains instead. Perhaps it has the same effect.

But yes my own scribbles can be sardonic, especially amongst Bards. And not that Tesla was an occultist, nor a drainer of blood, more a drainer of energy from the sky. His imaginative likes we have not seen round here for some time. But in the end it was the tale of a sad and lonely alchemist in his dark chamber, mind transformed, alone, a great genius, alone except for his birds. Better to have some family around you and playing with the train sets IMHO.

 

[Robert Baird]

He was no alchemist, and he never even had sex as far as anything I have seen would indicate. Most people have children to avoid the stuff of great people's questing. Yes, it fills time and the heart but in the end mostly just valuable space on Earth. "Sardonic" has origins of great import in history. The island medieval fortresses built before Rome on Sardinia speak to me about trans-Atlantic drug trade. No explanation given even by the great Jacquetta Hawkes in her Atlas of Archaeology.

Dear Burnt

Here is a real artist and alchemist for you.

Leonardo Da Vinci

Dear Stalker

Just a little snipette of what still goes on with regard to actual truthful explorations or Dissection thereof. The real world is still too scary for those who invent aliens or boogeymen rather than test their imagination through math and other disciplines.

THE BICYCLE OF LEONARDO DA VINCI: - "... a man who was at once an artist, an inventor, a scientist - and who saw no contradiction between these diverse realms.

In his unceasing quest for truth, Leonardo explored every branch of the sciences known to his age and proved to be far ahead in many respects in his precise observations, his striving for sound methodology and measurement, and the value he placed on empirical proof. 'No human investigation', he wrote, 'can be called true science without going through the mathematical tests... the sciences which begin and end in the mind cannot be considered to contain truth, because such discourses lack experience, without which nothing reveals itself with certainty." (57)

This quote is from a semi-whitewash of a life full of conflict, especially with the church. They should emphasize the oppressive control over thought and creativity the church of Leonardo's day had over all sciences. In fact there was only one science - philosophy which in actual fact was just theology. So Leonardo's words take on a different meaning than they suggest. It is even more important than you might imagine because Leonardo was the head or 'Nautonnier' of the Priory of Sion. The authors are from Catholic Universities mostly, so we must forgive them when they claim to have fostered Leonardo's genius when in fact they did the opposite and it isn't till near the end of the book they note he was charged with being homosexual by these Inquisitorial suppressors of soul and thought.

There is a whole specialty of study devoted to Da Vinci's work but little truth and a lot of propaganda. Few are they who admit both he and his mentor Verrocchio were alchemists and the horrors of a life hidden behind lies and half-truths that resulted from the fear of being found out. It is a theme of many of the great scientists and their lives, and little credit is given to the courageous men and women who toiled to understand and the truth they shared is available. Why? Do we still fear others might do what they did or think? Think for themselves and question the authority which seeks to discredit their approach to knowing, and take credit for what was achieved.

The Scientific Method of observation and conclusion is said to have been discovered by Bacon. There is some truth to that, but which Bacon? Some say Francis and there is no truth in that even though he pretended to be an alchemist in his Rosicrucian or Masonic circles including John Dee and Ashmolean types. The better scholars attribute it to Roger Bacon who actually was an alchemist and spent a great deal of his life in dungeons after having ferreted himself away in the church as a monk for a long time. Metaphysics and independent thought can be a dangerous business and there are many current authors whose work is relegated to obscurity unless they learn how to appease the 'normative' or oppressive mindset. The sad part is that there is no benefit to anyone by such oppression. Not only is there abundance and creativity but those who know the soul will not NEED to clothe it in grandiose raiment. They will gladly work for the joy of utilizing their potential for the benefit of mankind rather than seeking to destroy others and life in general.

 

[Burnt State]

Thanks to a listener over at Misterioso he pointed out that Bruce Duensing completed an episode at Paratopia - episode #108. Here's a sample of it here - excellent material:

The Experience | Goodbye to a Hidden Gem | UnknownCountry Mobile

 

[Robert Baird]

Dear Burnt

Do you see Jung (an alchemist according to those who do not know) in Bruce?

 

[DissectionStalker]

Thanks to a listener over at Misterioso he pointed out that Bruce Duensing completed an episode at Paratopia - episode #108. Here's a sample of it here - excellent material:

The Experience | Goodbye to a Hidden Gem | UnknownCountry Mobile

Is it possible to get an entire copy of the interview? I thought this was really well done, and he seemed at ease providing excellent ideas throughout the interview.

Does he address the military aspects of this phenomena in some of his writings, because it is a fact a military mythology is built upon the ET-UFO too. I think it is far more extensive than just "a cover" for top secret craft. Something far more creepy and sinister is at work with this human manipulation, and it involves using fear and paranoia to control populations and to subtly promote an underlying current of continuous spending for the MIC. The Alien Presence if you will.

 

[red_pill_junkie]

I think the entire Paratopia catalog is available on iTunes for $50 US dollars.

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