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How Silly is Climate Change Denial?
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pixelsmith
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Fearing governments and religion is far more reasonable than an essential trace gas necessary for all life on earth.
Attenborough: endless growth 'lunacy'
had China not introduced its controversial one-child policy in 1979, the consequences for the planet would have been catastrophic.
''One thing you can say is that in those places where women are in charge of their bodies, where they have the vote, where they are allowed to dictate what they do and what they want, whether it's proper medical facilities for birth control, the birth rate falls,'' he said.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/attenborough-endless-growth-lunacy-20130525-2n3pg.html#ixzz3Je6sKePD
Much better solution, recognise growth is the core of the problem. As we become more environmentaly mature, we also elevate women to equal status.
Two wins for the price of one
had China not introduced its controversial one-child policy in 1979, the consequences for the planet would have been catastrophic.
''One thing you can say is that in those places where women are in charge of their bodies, where they have the vote, where they are allowed to dictate what they do and what they want, whether it's proper medical facilities for birth control, the birth rate falls,'' he said.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/attenborough-endless-growth-lunacy-20130525-2n3pg.html#ixzz3Je6sKePD
Much better solution, recognise growth is the core of the problem. As we become more environmentaly mature, we also elevate women to equal status.
Two wins for the price of one
In the big picture both examples are part of the problem, both need growth for their short term self centered needs. Go forth and multiply......
The issue has been radically politicized. Most people tend to read or listen to the shallow arguments of political talking heads rather than engage in the very complex research itself. All one has to do, though, is recognize that a great majority of scientists in a number of climate-related disciplines share a common viewpoint that nations should engage in whatever changes in policy can help to remediate the situation, to the extent it can be remediated.
Population growth is indeed the core of the problem. Excellent post, Mike.
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pixelsmith
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WRONG. you cannot back that statement up with facts. It is now proven that the 97% CONsensus is bogus. You can thank Tygers hero John Cook for that.
I'm not about to engage in an argument with you or manx about this. Why don't you take a break (as long as you need) to write a scientifically sourced research paper that can demonstrate the validity of your claims? This thread has had enough pissing in the wind.
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pixelsmith
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Since no one here has bothered to check into the CO2 needs of plant life I will tell you. Plants die and life
Why don't you check your facts?
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pixelsmith
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All plants and life on earth cease to exist when CO2 gets down to 150 ppm. At the beginning of the Industrial Age we were at about 277 ppm and now we are at 400ppm. Plants prefer 1500 - 2000 ppm and that is why many growers introduce CO2 into their greenhouses. Thankfully humans have helped to reverse the 150 million year trend of reduced CO2 in the atmosphere.
Erno86
Paranormal Maven
Yes...they must adapt or perish. Maybe the Narwhals & the Bowhead whales might be able to evolve and grow legs, so they can climb out of the sea to escape predation from the killer whales, who've found them as a new food source in the artic; because of receding sea ice in the summertime. Maybe the polar bears can survive by eating seaweed, instead of hunting seals on sea ice; because of the same melting icepack problem. Maybe all this global warming is just caused by animals farting-up a storm.
"The reason that the earth is warm enough to sustain life is because of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. These gases act like a blanket keeping the earth warm by preventing some of the sun's energy being re-radiated into space.
The effect is exactly the same as wrapping yourself in a blanket - it reduces heat loss from your body and keeps you warm. If we add more greenhouse gases to the atmosphere, the effect is like wrapping yourself in a thicker blanket, even less heat is lost. So how can we tell what effect CO2 is having on temperatures, and if the increase in atmospheric CO2 is really making the planet warmer.
One way of measuring the effect of CO2 is by using satellites to compare how much energy is arriving from the sun and how much is leaving the earth. What scientists have seen over the past few decades is a gradual decrease in the energy being re-radiated back into space.
In the same period, the amount of energy arriving from the sun has not changed very much at all. This is the first piece of evidence: more energy is remaining in the atmosphere."
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pixelsmith
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Erno CO2 has a diminishing return as more is introduced into the atmosphere. Water vapor has more of an effect and I don't hear you wanting to control water vapor emissions.
Arctic and Antarctic ice has ALWAYS grown and receded and is doing very well at the moment if you bothered to check.
Arctic and Antarctic ice has ALWAYS grown and receded and is doing very well at the moment if you bothered to check.
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pixelsmith
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Erno you realize Polar Bears are the result of Climate Change in the past right? They evolved into Polar Bears. If you all like Polar Bears then you must appreciate the natural cycle of climate change.
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pixelsmith
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Many of you have just not looked deep enough into this topic and maybe shouldn't comment until you have studied the players in this global scam that says our 3% contribution of CO2 is having ANY measurable effect on a natural function of the Earth.
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pixelsmith
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I am old enough to remember these same bought and paid for scientists suggesting we cover glaciers and ice caps with carbon/soot/black paint to reduce the effects of the looming ICE AGE.
Erno86
Paranormal Maven
All over the moist tropical/sub-tropical land masses all over our earth, forests and local undergrowth are being consumed by warm-loving beetles and CO2 loving vines that literally strangle trees, that cover the local small plant growth with carpets of vines, which stop local plant life from growing; that humans and other animals depend on for food. Warm loving algae bacteria literally squeezes the oxygen out of certain major seas and waterways, that make life inhospitable for fish and animal life too survive.
Funny that Constance, you have the polar opposite view of scientists when the majority dis-agree with your views on the after-life, esp, ghosts and aliens, but you have spent many years researching those subjects, so you feel your entitled to an educated dis-agreement.
Yet even with your deeper knowledge of american departments propaganda, spin, and downright dis-honesty, cover-ups, and political influences, and most importantly funding, you still swallow the scientific consensus nonsense.
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Erno86
Paranormal Maven
Same as the dodo or passenger pigeon? --- which btw --- was caused by man-made extinction.
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pixelsmith
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Mother Nature has thrown millions more animals into extinction than man. Mother Nature also contributes 97% of the CO2 you wet your pants over. Do you hate Mother Nature now?