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A false assumption on your behalf...again. Evidence needs to qualify as such in order for it to be deemed evidence. Got proof of psychic ability?

No assumptions here! Proof is in the content of your posts on these forums. You are a known Debunker.

It's not a challenge to expose frauds. It's a challenge that allows these con artists...oops, I mean "supernaturally gifted individuals", to showcase their talents. If any.

And your point is? Another contradictory debunker's pronouncement.

Originally Posted by The Pair of Cats. There is no independent panel of examiners. All examinations are performed by Randi and the JREF's hand picked team.
More assumptions? Who'd a thunk it.

So who does the testing then?

My opinion is free of charge. I don't charge $40 a session to speak with your dead dog so I'm entitled to my opinion.

Yes,yes it is! And your opinion is like an arsehole..etc.

Obviously the participants believe it's fair. Well, that is until they fail...and then it's "foul play" right? Boo hoo.

Randi and the JREF have already stated that they don't believe in psychic ability. Immediate bias.

Originally Posted by The Pair of Cats Click here to enlarge Real psychics are unlikely to try the challenge.
. As opposed to the fake one's who do try?

From the "THE SIXTEEN OFFICIAL RULES GOVERNING THE JREF CHALLENGE:"

12. This offer is not open to any and all persons. Before being considered as an applicant, the person applying must satisfy two conditions: First, he/she must have a “media presence,” which means having been published, written about, or known to the media in regard to his/her claimed abilities or powers. This can be established by producing articles, videos, books, or other published material that specifically addresses the person’s abilities. Second, he/she must produce at least one signed document from an academic who has witnessed the powers or abilities of the person, and will validate that these powers or abilities have been verified.


So no other psychics need apply, right? More bias!!!


Here I am claiming these powers are bogus when all of a sudden I have a premonition and saw your future. You're going to post another laughable response that only serves to dig that deep, deep pro-psychic grave a little deeper.



Yes of course i am going to reply to your feeble attempts at supporting the Amazing Randolph and his merry men. It's amusing to me watching you bite back at my comments. A bit like fishing without the fishy smell (..hang on a minute!)

It does not matter how much proof is provide to you as you wouldn't believe in it if it jumped up and bit you on you proverbial debunkerer's arse. You just like to exist in your deniers world where you feel safe. Just like when you were a child and you called for your mummy in the middle of the night when the tree outside was scratching on your bedroom window. She would come in and say "..it's okay little Josie there's no monster outside your window, it's just a tree" and you would go back to sleep all comforted and safe.Now we have good old uncle Randy saying to you ".. it's ok little Josie, there is no such thing as psychic ability, it's just the pair of cats scratching at your window!" and you feel all safe and sound nestled in the vast beard of uncle Randy with your other debunker mates.

I can't wait for another installment of "Let's do another point by point refutation of the pair of cats latest post!"

Bring it on litlle Josie (oops) i mean Jose.
 
Taken from Daily Grail Frontpage | TDG - Science, Magick, Myth and History

For ten years, the modern skeptical movement has wielded a cudgel against claims of the paranormal: the James Randi Million Dollar Challenge. In many debates over the possibility of psi abilities, the Challenge provides a final word for one side..."has so-and-so applied for the Challenge?" The financial reward offered by the James Randi Educational Foundation is seen by many skeptics as providing an irresistible motivation for anybody with paranormal ability - after all, if someone could genuinely exhibit such powers, surely they would step forward to take the million?
However, after ten years, the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF) says nobody has even got past their preliminary testing. Furthermore, none of the 'big fish' - medium John Edward, spoon-bender Uri Geller, psychic Sylvia Browne - have applied (although Sylvia Browne did accept James Randi's direct challenge on Larry King Live, without going any further). And now, perhaps as a result of that fact, James Randi has announced that the Challenge will come to an end in two years, on March 6th, 2010.
But does the challenge really make a statement about the existence of the paranormal and/or psi abilities? According to paranormal investigator Loyd Auerbach (who, like Randi, is a member of the magic fraternity):
The suggestion that ending the Challenge after 10 years supports any statement that psi does not exist or someone would have won the challenge, is absurd on many levels.
The procedures for the Challenge included several hurdles in favor of, and multiple "outs" for Randi and the JREF that any discerning individual capable of any kind of extraordinary human performance would think twice about (and here I'm not just referring to psychics and the like).
What are these hurdles that Auerbach refers to?
Chances, of Anything...
First, and perhaps the most important, is the effect size required to win the challenge. While the JREF says that "all tests are designed with the participation and approval of the applicant", this does not mean that the tests are fair scientific tests. The JREF need to protect a very large amount of money from possible "long-range shots", and as such they ask for extremely significant results before paying out - much higher than are generally accepted in scientific research (and if you don’t agree to terms, your application is rejected). In the case of parapsychological research, however, where effect size is often small (though apparently robust), this means most researchers would have to go to extraordinary lengths to win the million dollars.

To view the rest go to Daily Grail Frontpage | TDG - Science, Magick, Myth and History
 
WTF? No seriously. The Daily Grail?

Oh my goodness. Why even bother? I was right, you do host eBay auctions selling bunk pet mind reading sessions.

First you present a "maths guy" who clearly strengthens the argument psychic ability is bunk. The you utilise nothing but assumptions. Then your randomly babble about...well...I'm trying to figure that out because you really have no argumentative stance on anything it seems. Now you're referencing The Daily Grail. Enough said. Holy psychic shit.

Wait....did you try out for the JREF challenge, fail miserably and now have a chip on your shoulder? You do seem to support a lot of bogus bullshit. Maybe you have some money invested in some magic healing elixer? Magic tarot cards? Who really knows Phil. I assume you're peddling something to throw useless arguments with no clear direction. Maths guy...JREF...blah blah blah. Throw in a few more assumptions. I dunno. How about JREF and the NWO are in cahoots to try and stem the credibility of psychic healing. Ohh ooooh...maybe throw the Illuminati in there and Raiki. You know...for added effect.

And finally, you continue presenting more false assumptions. How very "paranormal" of you. Actually, all you'd need to do is provide one piece of credible evidence. Unfortunately, you fail to understand that evidence isn't "evidence" unless you follow the protocols that qualify it as such. Your "evidence" is bunk. Nothing more, nothing less.

So, continue your banal, ignorant rant about...whatever the hell you're talking about. Maths guy. That kills me.

This topic went from irrelevant to plain retarded thanks to you. I assume your idea of "evidence" goes along the lines of this?. Friends of yours Phil?

Soooooo....credible evidence. Got any?
 
WTF? No seriously. The Daily Grail?

Oh my goodness. Why even bother? I was right, you do host eBay auctions selling bunk pet mind reading sessions.

First you present a "maths guy" who clearly strengthens the argument psychic ability is bunk. The you utilise nothing but assumptions. Then your randomly babble about...well...I'm trying to figure that out because you really have no argumentative stance on anything it seems. Now you're referencing The Daily Grail. Enough said. Holy psychic shit.

Wait....did you try out for the JREF challenge, fail miserably and now have a chip on your shoulder? You do seem to support a lot of bogus bullshit. Maybe you have some money invested in some magic healing elixer? Magic tarot cards? Who really knows Phil. I assume you're peddling something to throw useless arguments with no clear direction. Maths guy...JREF...blah blah blah. Throw in a few more assumptions. I dunno. How about JREF and the NWO are in cahoots to try and stem the credibility of psychic healing. Ohh ooooh...maybe throw the Illuminati in there and Raiki. You know...for added effect.

And finally, you continue presenting more false assumptions. How very "paranormal" of you. Actually, all you'd need to do is provide one piece of credible evidence. Unfortunately, you fail to understand that evidence isn't "evidence" unless you follow the protocols that qualify it as such. Your "evidence" is bunk. Nothing more, nothing less.

So, continue your banal, ignorant rant about...whatever the hell you're talking about. Maths guy. That kills me.

This topic went from irrelevant to plain retarded thanks to you. I assume your idea of "evidence" goes along the lines of this?. Friends of yours Phil?

Soooooo....credible evidence. Got any?

Swish.....plop.(the fly hits the top of the water). Cue the sound of a reel being woung. Checks to see what he has caught. OMG it's a wide mouth Collado. Seems like every time i cast out i catch one of these little buggers. But i'm gonna have to have to chuck him back (not good eating i'm afraid) You see they feed from the bottom of the pond, scooping up all kinds of shit. This one also seems to be full of piss and vinegar. Must have been hanging out at the JREF sewer outlet. Nasty!!

Hahahahah got ya!!!:)
It never ceases to amaze me how easily you get riled up.
Proof & Evidence
So that's who you're working for now since your "Haunted Australia" TV show failed to get off the ground. Fantastic for you!!;)

WTF? No seriously. The Daily Grail?
You don't like the daily Grail? I love it.

The you utilise nothing but assumptions
Throw in a few more assumptions.
And finally, you continue presenting more false assumptions.
I assume your idea of "evidence" goes along the lines of this?
Assumption(s), Your favourite word i assume.What assumptions are you talking about. Name them. Tell me what assumptions i have made. I CHALLENGE YOU!!!
Do i assume that you are debunker? No this is true and evident. You just wont admit it. (a closet debunker) Now come on The Amazing James has come out of his closet so feel free to step out of your debunkers closet. it's okay we wont bite;)
Do i assume that you do no research. No. Again this is fact as you keep asking me to provide evidence FOR you.

Evidence? There's plenty of credible evidence out there if you cared to look. But then again i forgot you are a debunker and you don't do any research do you. You just shit can everything.
Look up Ingo Swann, Pat Price and Joe McMoneagle if you want credible evidence that is, if you can spare some of your precious time.
Check out the veritable mountains of evidence provide by Teresa, Farusha and other at the Remote Viewing thread.
By the way, hows your Remote Viewing experiment with Teresa going? Any results there yet? Did you get Teresa to formulate a protocol just to suit you,hm? (not bloody likely).;)
 
Haunted Australia failed to get off the ground? Another fine example of your ASSumptions. Oh look, I passed your challenge. How easy was that? Did your Psience friends tell you that? My oh my Phil. Did it not occur to you that your Psience friends have no idea who I am or what I do? No Phil. Neither do you.

Does this look like something that failed to get off the ground?

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Or this?

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Or the renovations to the new studio? Here's some pictures of it before it was completed last week.

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And...

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Our greenscreen facility

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The sound booth yet to be completed

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Would you like me to take some more pics of this "failed" project this week of the finished renovations Phil? It looks a little more cramped with all the computers, gear and crew walking around though.

Not bad for something that "failed" to get off the ground according to you Phil. Right? Oh...what a failure according to Phil the Psience member. What are you guys shooting your pilot with? Camcorders? Surely destined for success. I wish you bogans all the luck. God only knows the world needs another ghost hunting show. I'm speculating maybe the flannel shirts, mocossins and VB stubbies are your niche? I'm DYING to see your pilot now.

It's a little disheartening to hear you say something you have no idea about "failed" to get off the ground Phil. Kind of makes me feel bad for those who worked so hard on it for years to be able to afford the burdon of cost of such a huge project. Especially when people, like you Phil, have no idea about anything, yet you feel obliged to call others failures with absolutely no foundation in facts. But...that's what I've come to expect Phil. No one remembers the critics Phil. Hey, I'll let the guys know you think we're all failures Phil. Wait...Phil who?

I have to say Phil. Haunted Australia really opened my eyes to the vast amount of bullshit, con artists and snake oil peddlers in the paranormal scene. Unfortunately Phil. We called it quits after the contracted 13 episodes because no one wanted to continue a show about ghosts. I believe our final HA production meeting went a little like "Fuck this" Can you believe that? Yeah neither could I. I mean, who the hell wouldn't want to sit in a cold, dark room chasing dust right? Listening to hours of audio recorded on shutty little audio recorders and waving useless gadgets around claiming every spike was a ghost. Listening to "psychics" tout their bile and not being able to hit them with the boom. It's just so hard to believe people would have better things to do. Like...well...what you do Phil. Maybe you'd like to be a cast member of the new Haunted Australia? I'm always happy to accept your application.

We'll just have to settle for what we do now.....which is what Phil? You tell me. You're the false assumptions man. Oh, that's right. You have no idea? Look on the bright side. At least you're keeping the clueless theme going.

Oh snap! Phil? Found any proof yet? Of course not. You'll just continue throwing bullshit around until you actually stumble on a point. Any day now. Hopefully. Any day soon.......not holding my breath.

In regard to Teresa and the Remote Viewing experiment. No Phil. As you can see, I've been busy working. You do know what work is right? I didn't realise I had a deadline set. Do you mind if I extend that deadline Phil? Do I have your permission? Priorities Phil. I'm sure you understand. Well....meh.

I'd love to be able to say "Now back to the irrelevant thread you've hijacked with your insipid arguments" but I'm afraid the time to put a bullet in this thread is well overdue.
 
Yeah, I usually go against Jose on the forums but I have to back him on this one. I've done research on psi and worked with self-proclaimed psychic's and found very little compelling evidence or corroboration with more technical techniques. "I feel a presence (or energy) :here:" but no temperature, ion, or EM fluctuation. Hit rates that I've seen for predicting future or past events have been less than random-chance levels. Of all the paranormal disciplines, I think psychic phenomena is the least credible. Ironically enough, however Pair of Cats brings up an interesting point; people pay millions of dollars every year to receive psychic advise or astrological guidance.

Just goes to show the gullibility of the general public.
 
Thanks Jose.
Nice pictures of a camera and an empty, what looks like a warehouse. You say it's being renovated? Looks like it's just a picture of an empty warehouse to me or its being demolished. Are they your company's cameras or did you just take some pictures from the net? We would have to trust you on that. Do we trust you? Hrm. You see the problem we have here? You present evidence to me ASSuming that it will be absolute proof of your success and continuation of your TV work. But there is nothing in the photos that would definitively prove that it is. It could all be written off as a failure just as easily. (The failed TV production company that has just had it's assets repossessed and studio stripped). What i'm getting at is you, who screams at me from your posts to provide "proof" and yet even when directed to where the "proof" lies and is easily accessible, fails to do so or at the very least does not accept that what's provided even constitutes proof. A bit like me saying that your pretty photos prove nothing to me as you could easily be making up your story and providing misleading photos to help back up your bogus claim.
Who are you and what do you do? On these forums you are a debunker of things paranormal a non believer and a denier. Is that what you do in public life? Do you make TV shows about debunking the paranormal?

The proof behind Psychics and psychic ability is that we are all psychic and all possess psychic ability. Being psychic is nothing special it is just part of being human, something we are all born with. Some call it a sixth sense. It comes in the form of quick intuitive flashes, a feeling that something is right or not right. A knowing. Like that friend you hadn't heard from in years suddenly rings you after you had just been thinking about them. The vivid dream you had last night that eerily comes true at some point later on. That gut feeling you have about somebody, whether they can be trusted or not and when it suddenly becomes true. These types of thing occur within all of us every day, to billions of people all over the world. Mostly the average person will experience these types of psychic occurrences even you Jose and Jeff. They just don't make a big deal out of it and go on with their lives. Sometimes you will find people who have a heightened awareness or sensitivity of their surroundings. Some may even be able to see things that the rest of us can't see or feel. These gifted individuals don't necessarily go on to become practicing "Madame X" at the carnival types or create huge media careers for themselves, they may never ever be heard of, but yet they exist and could be living right next door to you and you would never know. Not everyone wants to advertise. and yet there are some that do.

The names that i gave you, Edgar Cayce, Ingo Swann, Pat Price, Joe McMoneagle, Lyn Buchannan are good examples of verifiable psychics and Remote Viewing Practitioners. I don't know about Lyn but the 4 former have all been extensively and scientifically tested on numerous occasions and are well documented.

The point is Jose and Jeff, that evidence or proof can be provided on psychic ability and it comes in 3 forms as i see it.
1. Anecdotal Evidence
2. Scientific Tests or studies
3. First hand experience

All of these can be acceptable or non acceptable to the seeker, it just depends on your frame of mind or whether you believe or are WILLING to believe that any of it could be possible. A true sceptic is always open to the possibility and willing to search for the truth. It is just as easy to dismiss out of hand any or all of the above if you don't believe that any of it is possible and that is your choice. Just like i don't have to accept or believe that your production company (or whatever it is) is still functioning as you say it is, Jose. The photos on their own don't prove anything if i don't believe. As far as i know you could be a back yard abortionist who has lifted some pix off the net to show me.
And yes Jeff the general public are gullible, very much so and if they choose to spend their hard earned dosh on bogus psychics or watch shows with likes of James van Praagh or John Edward then there is bugger all anyone can do about it. Even if they have been exposed as frauds those people are as unlikely to accept that as the debunkers are likely to accept that psychics and psychic phenomena exist. They just exist as a counterpoint to each other, diametrically opposed yet strangely similar in their overall intensity to the subject.

Jeff you seem a bit more reasonable than Jose, a bit more of a true sceptic. Jose comes across as a typical debunker. Sorry Jose but your posts indicate that and are there for all to see. It was somewhat amusing to bait you and watch your posts become increasingly more hostile as time went on.(I appologise if that was a bit mean). But what the baiting did do is force you to present something that you know to be a truth. But as i have said the photos prove nothing. We would have to take your word for it that you are who you say you are or do what you say you do. They could all be lies. We may never know.
Fortunately i have seen your work on you tube.(at least i do SOME research,unlike you). So i know that it is more than possible that the pix and info you have provided may be correct.


Yeah, I usually go against Jose on the forums but I have to back him on this one. I've done research on psi and worked with self-proclaimed psychic's and found very little compelling evidence or corroboration with more technical techniques. "I feel a presence (or energy) :here:" but no temperature, ion, or EM fluctuation. Hit rates that I've seen for predicting future or past events have been less than random-chance levels. Of all the paranormal disciplines, I think psychic phenomena is the least credible. Ironically enough, however Pair of Cats brings up an interesting point; people pay millions of dollars every year to receive psychic advise or astrological guidance.

The trouble may be that you are working with the "self proclaimed types". It's not easy, i know, to find the truly gifted ones who can give you the absolute mind blowing results that are sometimes required to show proof to the doubtful, but hang in there, do your research, seek out the ones who can help you . You will find them (if you want to).
I'm not trying to change anyone's mind here. You both can believe what you want about the subject, that is your right.
 
Maybe you should stick to playing poker Phil. Bluffing is more your style.

I don't work in TV Phil. That's another false assumption.

Here's me in the studio. Obviously the creditors have repossessed the paint on the wooden floor Phil.

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Here's me standing next to the camera. Obviously I've just superimposed myself in there to dupe you Phil....right?

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Here's the soundproofing being installed. Notice the fresh paint Phil? No? Well we decided since we were demolishing, that's we'd make it presentable for the bulldozers.

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The freshly painted floor I'm standing on in my picture above. Wait...didn't the paint get repossessed? Oh that's right, we stripped the paint to help pay for our legal fees. We got 30c on eBay. How much do you make peddling deceased pet reading Phil?

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Notice they're all orb free Phil?

"The failed TV production company that has just had it's assets repossessed and studio stripped" That's right Phil. They repossessed the paint from the walls, the carpet, the tiles, the wooden frames. Yes Phil, the creditors really are harsh these days. You really do struggle with logic Phil. I guess you don't like having competition? Hey, maybe I could join your Psience group. Tell us more about your group of bogans Phil.

I could go in, use a video camera and record the entire walkthrough of the studio Phil but that just isn't good enough for you right? Because you're a "proof" kinda guy who requires credible evidence. The proof guy who struggles to actually submit "proof". Hilarious.

I'll post some more pics Phil. Just so you have something else you've spouted proven false. You're a little cynical Phil. Did you fail the application test for the JREF challenge Phil? Awwwwwwwwwww.

Again Phil. Stick with your false assumptions. I'm sure they keep you from crying yourself to sleep at night. Why don't you remote view into the studio Phil and find out for yourself. According to you, we're all psychic right Phil? So why is it that you rely on fals e assumptions and speculative bullshit if you have this "talent"? Allegedly, according to you "The proof behind Psychics and psychic ability is that we are all psychic and all possess psychic ability." Uhhh, no Phil, that's your opinion. Not proof. Do you often fail this much in real life?

So, according you you Phil, Edgar Cayce, Ingo Swann, Pat Price, Joe McMoneagle have all been scientifically tested. WHere are these "scientific" test results Phil? You're always keen to throw around the word "proof", yet, somehow struggle to present anything without crawling into a defensive position of spouting bullshit to cover your tracks. Must be all the poker playing eh? Got a gambling problem Phil? Do you peddle eBay psychic readings to help that addiction? I guess I'm speculating now but who knows Phil. You seem a little overprotective of anyone stamping on psychics. Makes you wonder eh?

Let me tap into my innate psychic ability that you claim is proof of psychic ability. Hmmmm....yes....I sense you're going to continue using the word proof without qualifying anything as such. Yes....hmmmm...I sense you're going to side step every question put forward to submit something credible without reverting to your ignorant name calling tactics and then alleging it's baiting of some kind. Hmmmm....yes....yes....I see you mashing away at your keyboard posting more bullshit about how others have failed, others are worng, others are blind, others are debunkers...and all the while, still avoiding the actual proof and references to you allegations of "scientific" research.

I'm still laughing at the "maths guy" statement and the way you submitted his article without bothering to read it. So Phil...proof...got any? No? Yeah, didn't think so. Otherwise you'd have actually presented some by now. Such a waste of time Phil. Stick with gambling. You're definitely better at it that presenting anything logical.

"I'm not trying to change anyone's mind here" - Well of course no Phil. You just continue posting irrelevant bullshit for fun right?

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Don't bother responding Phil. I just found the ignore feature. You obviously saw that coming...being psychic and all. It actually omits everything you post. An existence without Phils psychic babble....perfect.
 
Yeah nice photo Jose.;) Oh the sensitivity of it all. Did i hurt your feelings? Aww diddums!!! Now your acting like a petulant child who has had their favourite toy confiscated. How does feel to have your pet projects or beliefs criticised. Not nice is it. Well sucked in, you asked for it. I suppose you will go to bed tonight and cry yourself to sleep on the huge pillow that supports your gargantuan, over inflated ,ego bloated, cranium.
So you don't work in the TV industry. So you're (applies psychic ability)....the carpenter? The Gyprocker? No wait the clean up boy!! Why haven't you checked out the people that i provided? Too busy? Too lazy? Scared? I suppose being a Gyprocker it takes too long to get the plaster out of what's left of your hair.(yeah,yeah). Or maybe the plaster has cemented itself in your narrow minded brain. I'm not doing all your work for you.

So, according you you Phil, Edgar Cayce, Ingo Swann, Pat Price, Joe McMoneagle have all been scientifically tested. WHere are these "scientific" test results Phil? You're always keen to throw around the word "proof", yet, somehow struggle to present anything without crawling into a defensive position of spouting bullshit to cover your tracks.

I do not need to provide proof of any kind. I know that the phenomenom exists. You want proof then go and find out about them yourself you lazy, slack arsed DEBUNKER. Just go to the Remote Viewing thread. All of the links to what you need appear there. You keep avoiding doing any homework, probably 'coz you're too busy getting rid of that 5 o'clock shadow you have there.

Don't bother responding Phil. I just found the ignore feature. You obviously saw that coming...being psychic and all. It actually omits everything you post. An existence without Phils psychic babble....perfect.

Whaaat? You only just found that function? Holy ignore function, Batman! I hope you do use it. I will still be able to see yours. Wow, looking forward to seeing them. Psychically i can predict that the content of those posts will be...."that's Bunk!", "....extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof!", "..That's another assumption!", "...more assumptions", "bullshit,bullshit, bullshit!!!". And that about sums up the content of your posts on any given topic.

Let me tap into my innate psychic ability that you claim is proof of psychic ability. Hmmmm....yes....I sense you're going to continue using the word proof without qualifying anything as such. Yes....hmmmm...I sense you're going to side step every question put forward to submit something credible without reverting to your ignorant name calling tactics and then alleging it's baiting of some kind. Hmmmm....yes....yes....I see you mashing away at your keyboard posting more bullshit about how others have failed, others are worng, others are blind, others are debunkers...and all the while, still avoiding the actual proof and references to you allegations of "scientific" research.

You really babble on don't you? You spout so much shit that you need a bib just to wipe the crap from your mouth as it comes out.
You've derailed this thread from Randi coming out of the closet to being all about you and your precious cameras and studio or what ever it is and how there is no proof and oh the humanity. "How dare anyone doubt me, the great and amazing Jose when i show them my stuff!" (Hrm show them my stuff. Maybe your the star of a porn movie production company. You've got that sorta porn star quality to you judging by the photos.)
And yes i do play poker. Great game. And if you were my opponent i'd say you were on tilt right now. Being a poker player affords me the ability to see that you've shown your hand and it shows that you are really full of shit.

It's a pity you didn't put as much time and effort into researching psychic phenomena as you did into researching me.

Sorry Jeff that this thread has derailed from Randi's gayness to me and the outlaw Jose Wales
having a stoush.

Hey Jose you forgot these pics.


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The amusing part is, you know you're being ignored because you're on my ignore list, yet you continue to post.

Time to get a life Phil.

Say hi to Christine for me.
 
He says that he has me on ignore but yet he still reads my posts.

Say hi to Christine for me

There we have it folks. Jose the debunker who spends more time delving into my private life than he does on any research into subjects here.
Beware to all posters on these forums.

If you happen to piss Jose Collado off he will delve into your private life and try to embarass you or hurt you in some way. Dear oh dear. It doesn't particularly worry me that he has because my life is very uninteresting and mundane and nothing he brings up will affect me, but it does constitute a serious breach of privacy.
You see he has taken the lowest of low shots now by mentioning by partner's name here on these forums. Something that she certainly didn't ask for and i certainly haven't mentioned her name any where on this site.
My posts have all been directed at him and him only and up until now his at me. That's fine. By now he has to try and involve my family. that's a pretty cheap shot and the act of a coward.

Jose not only are you are a debunker but a worthless , sniveling coward.
 
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