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possible?! at this point we rattle our chains to show we are free.

I was trying to be polite Pixel lol .. I know Don is retired law enforcement officer and it must really hurt to see this sort of thing going on.

Frankly from the outside looking in I would say you guys are well past the point of peaceful return at this stage.
 
We all owe Rich Dolan a debt because he was one of the first patriots to point out that the National Security State was out-of-control and growing. I'm not surprised that veterans and others are being questioned by DHS and FBI on an increasing basis. Why? Because the surveillance net is being thrown wider and deeper every month. The video linked below is instructive. Former NSA employee William Binney is convinced that, contrary to their charter, the NSA is deeply involved with domestic spying . . . on people like us. Would things get any better with a change at the White House? Sadly, I doubt it. It's up to us, folks. Stay in contact with your Senators and Congressmen and tell them they've lost your vote if the surveillance state continues to grow. It's a cancer.


My Facebook page, Liberty At Risk, is full of stories about the rise of the police state and how we can push back. Give it a look when you have time.
 
Anyone see Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy programme - the one which featured the FEMA camps? At one point Jesse is taken and shown thousands upon thousands of plastic black coffins. The site is supposedly only one of many!
I do know that during the cold war, with everyone worried about nuclear war, govts had a responsibility to plan for mass casualties etc. That is a normal part of government but all those coffins and 'Family Centres' freak me out. Just who is the govt planning to use to fill the camps and coffins?
 
This bull shit is getting OUT OF CONTROL. Like WTF is going on?

"The attack that killed four Americans in Libya, including the U.S. ambassador, was an organized two-part operation by heavily armed militants that included a precisely timed raid on a supposedly secret safe house just as Libyan and U.S. security forces were arriving to rescue evacuated consulate staff, a senior Libyan security official said on Thursday." So this wasn't a simple "protest" as has been reported, it was a targeted assassination, and there was some kind of leak regarding the location of the "safe house". Do you really think there are no sympathizers inside the USA? Wake up and start looking at who the real bad guys and victims are. I'll give you a clue. This student was no "victim" and the bad guys aren't the two FBI agents who asked a student to voluntarily answer a few questions. He and his family are doing just fine, unlke Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others who were killed.
 
"The attack that killed four Americans in Libya, including the U.S. ambassador, was an organized two-part operation by heavily armed militants that included a precisely timed raid on a supposedly secret safe house just as Libyan and U.S. security forces were arriving to rescue evacuated consulate staff, a senior Libyan security official said on Thursday." So this wasn't a simple "protest" as has been reported, it was a targeted assassination, and there was some kind of leak regarding the location of the "safe house". Do you really think there are no sympathizers inside the USA? Wake up and start looking at who the real bad guys and victims are. I'll give you a clue. This student was no "victim" and the bad guys aren't the two FBI agents who asked a student to voluntarily answer a few questions. He and his family are doing just fine, unlke Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others who were killed.

Who ever revealed the location of said safe house would have to have been an insider or it was never that safe to start with.

The implications are thus:

1. that is was a member of their own security team that spilled the beans.
2. It was a member of security state side that spilled the Beans
3. That they slipped up and information about the safe house was leaked when it should not have been.
4. The local population already knew that this place was a safe house.

Either way it was a massive slip up in security that has little or nothing to do with domestic spying to be honest.

As for it being a preplanned action to assault the Consulate, I could not agree more with you Ufology that this is very likely the case indeed.
This brings into question the video that sparked the whole affair off in the first place and just who and why was it released, or is it just being used as an excuse for an already preplanned event that just needed a catalyst to set it in motion.


Such a situation has little or nothing to do with a student who made a video about a possible police state, and further more it would have taken little or no effort to have done a background check and association check on him without going and talking to him.

So that leave us with the possibility that:

1. He could have been a serious threat and we do not have all the information so the FBI did its job as it should.
2. It was a waste of time and over kill on the FBI's part.
3. It was intimidation.
4. Or that due to the recent shooting sprees the FBI had to at least interview the kid to find out what they could possibly be dealing with and as such it was crime prevention.

These are just thoughts to out line the situations.
 
Who ever revealed the location of said safe house would have to have been an insider or it was never that safe to start with. As for it being a preplanned action to assault the Consulate, I could not agree more with you Ufology that this is very likely the case indeed. This brings into question the video that sparked the whole affair off in the first place and just who and why was it released, or is it just being used as an excuse for an already preplanned event that just needed a catalyst to set it in motion.

We don't know much about the video they used as a smoke screen for the assassination, but it's pretty clear that it wasn't the real motive. This makes the video itself suspect as part of the plot. Perhaps it was created by the terrorists themselves as a false flag in order to incite the rioting they wanted as cover. We'll have to see what the investigation turns up. As for connecting the student in the the article at the top of the page to the assassination story, I completely agree that there is no direct connection. But that's not the point. The point is that news reports made to portray innocent US investigators as the bad guys and some in some plot to turn the USA into a police state are so far out of focus compared to the real threats that it barely deserves comment ... except for this one ( of course ).;)
 
We don't know much about the video they used as a smoke screen for the assassination, but it's pretty clear that it wasn't the real motive. This makes the video itself suspect as part of the plot. Perhaps it was created by the terrorists themselves as a false flag in order to incite the rioting they wanted as cover. We'll have to see what the investigation turns up. As for connecting the student in the the article at the top of the page to the assassination story, I completely agree that there is no direct connection. But that's not the point. The point is that news reports made to portray innocent US investigators as the bad guys and some in some plot to turn the USA into a police state are so far out of focus compared to the real threats that it barely deserves comment ... except for this one ( of course ).;)

hahaha nice post.

as for the video from what I am able to dig up here and there it is a real movie but it is a spoof, it was shown onan Egyptian news show but was edited badly and appeared as an attack on Islam when it really was not.

We all know that bad editing can change the message of a video dramatically.

Is this the full story... hmmm I do not think so but its getting closer to the truth.
 
Just in:

Heavily armed militants used a protest against an anti-Islam film as a cover and may have had inside help in their deadly attack on the US Consulate, a senior Libyan official says.
As Libya announced the first four arrests, the clearest picture yet emerged of a two-pronged assault with militants screaming "God is great!" as they scaled the consulate's outer walls and descended on the compound's main building.
Killed in the attack were US Ambassador Chris Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith, private security guard Glen Doherty, another American who has yet to be identified and a number of Libyans.
Eastern Libya's deputy interior minister, Wanis el-Sharef, said a mob first stormed the consulate on Tuesday night and then, hours later, raided a safe house in the compound just as US and Libyan security arrived to evacuate the staff.
That suggested, el-Sharef said, that infiltrators within the security forces may have tipped off the militants about the safe house's location.
The attacks were suspected to have been timed to coincide with the 11th anniversary of the September 11 terrorist strike in the United States, el-Sharef said, with the militants using the film protest by Libyan civilians to mask their action.
El-Sharef said four people were arrested at their homes on Thursday, but refused to give further details.
He said it was too early to say if the suspects belonged to a particular group or what their motive was.
Libya's new prime minister, Mustafa Abu-Shakour, said authorities were looking for more suspects.
One of five private security guards at the consulate said the surprise attack began around 9.30pm when several grenades that were lobbed over the outer wall exploded in the compound and bullets rained down.
The guard was wounded in the left leg from shrapnel.
He said he was lying on the ground, bleeding and in pain when a bearded gunman came down the wall and shot him twice in the right leg, screaming: "You infidel, you are defending infidels!"
"Later, someone asked me who I was. I said I was the gardener and then I passed out. I woke up in hospital," said the guard, who spoke from his bed at a Benghazi hospital.
The witness account came as protests against the obscure film Innocence of Muslims continued in the Middle East.
Four people were killed when an angry throng broke into the US Embassy in Yemen.
Clashes between security forces and demonstrators near the fortress-like embassy compound in the heart of Cairo left nearly 200 people injured and two police trucks burned.
No one has claimed responsibility for the Libya attack.
Some Libyan officials have accused hardline Islamist militia, the Ansar al-Shariah Brigades.
A spokesman for the group lavishly praised the assault for "protecting the faith and fighting for the victory of God Almighty". But he said the brigades "did not participate as an organisation. This was a popular uprising."
Adding to the confusion surrounding the attack is that it targeted the United States, a nation that played a key role in ridding the oil-rich, mostly desert nation of dictator Muammar Gaddafi.
Washington also took the lead in launching the months-long NATO air campaign that crippled the late leader's forces.
Stevens was credited by Libyans for organising a political front made up of opposition groups to unite the uprising.
Stevens probably died of asphyxiation following a grenade explosion that started a fire, el-Sharef said, echoing what the Libyan doctor to whom Stevens' body was taken said on Wednesday.
His account was corroborated by local journalist Ibrahim Hadya, who was at the scene.
He said the consulate was stormed just as the evacuation was under way, with staff members smuggled out a side door that opens to a street other than the one where the militants and protesters gathered.
El-Sharef said the original plan was for a separate Libyan security unit to escort the evacuees to the airport.
Instead, the joint unit went from the airport to the safe house, possibly because they were under the impression they were dealing with a hostage situation, he said. The militant attack coincided with the joint team's arrival at the safe house, he said.
That the attackers knew the safe house's location suggests a "spy" inside the security forces tipped off the militants, el Sharef said.
US officials have not confirmed the account. They have spoken of an attack on the consulate's annex that killed two Americans, but said their report on the incident was still preliminary.
Libya announces four arrests for US attack
 
You know, in Viet Nam with my intelligence stint we had, ah shall I say knowledge, of the Phoenix program, which targeted Communists infrastructure in country. With that being said let me say that I am convinced that a program like that is needed now, badly. Like it or not we are in a deep down and very dirty war. May not feel like a war, may not act like a war, but a war is what is currently happening and you can take that to the bank.

The current Admn. is whistling happily down the road but shit is heading to Mudville ladies and gentlemen. The Islamic movement is going to hit us here in the good old U.S.A. sooner than later, and I am convinced of it. I spent too much time in the crapper to not see the lines heading to us and when it does ... the restrictions of today will seem like a Sunday school picnic. We need to send out teams of SF operatives to hunt, track and terminate these bastards before they start operations here. Mark my words ... if the big G doesn't take this seriously ... we WILL RUE the Day. The country has received warnings ... and we better heed them.

Decker
 
You know, in Viet Nam with my intelligence stint we had, ah shall I say knowledge, of the Phoenix program, which targeted Communists infrastructure in country. With that being said let me say that I am convinced that a program like that is needed now, badly. Like it or not we are in a deep down and very dirty war. May not feel like a war, may not act like a war, but a war is what is currently happening and you can take that to the bank.

The current Admn. is whistling happily down the road but shit is heading to Mudville ladies and gentlemen. The Islamic movement is going to hit us here in the good old U.S.A. sooner than later, and I am convinced of it. I spent too much time in the crapper to not see the lines heading to us and when it does ... the restrictions of today will seem like a Sunday school picnic. We need to send out teams of SF operatives to hunt, track and terminate these bastards before they start operations here. Mark my words ... if the big G doesn't take this seriously ... we WILL RUE the Day. The country has received warnings ... and we better heed them.

Decker

Not so sure we need to go outside our own borders to the extent we have, but I can't argue with your logic on the rest. Personally I think all the money spent in the middle east making them weaker would have been better spent here making us stronger through better education, housing, medical care, jobs and intelligence. And with the amount that has been spent, all that could have been done and more.
 
You know, in Viet Nam with my intelligence stint we had, ah shall I say knowledge, of the Phoenix program, which targeted Communists infrastructure in country. With that being said let me say that I am convinced that a program like that is needed now, badly. Like it or not we are in a deep down and very dirty war. May not feel like a war, may not act like a war, but a war is what is currently happening and you can take that to the bank.

The current Admn. is whistling happily down the road but shit is heading to Mudville ladies and gentlemen. The Islamic movement is going to hit us here in the good old U.S.A. sooner than later, and I am convinced of it. I spent too much time in the crapper to not see the lines heading to us and when it does ... the restrictions of today will seem like a Sunday school picnic. We need to send out teams of SF operatives to hunt, track and terminate these bastards before they start operations here. Mark my words ... if the big G doesn't take this seriously ... we WILL RUE the Day. The country has received warnings ... and we better heed them.

Decker

I wish you were wrong Don but you are not. The whole of the western world is heading for it and the liberals have got their heads stuck in the sand.

Like I have said there is need for security my only fear is how it is used, but if the SHTF like I feel it is going to then all bets are off and people will find out what a real police state is all about.
 
Ok all heads up

US 'was warned of Libya embassy attack but did nothing' - World news, News - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk

BENGHAZI, Libya - No protest before Benghazi attack, wounded Libyan guard says - World - MyrtleBeachOnline.com

The plot thickens

The ambassador was on an unannounced and confidential visit to Benghazi during the attack. This means that someone with connections to the embassy had to have leaked confidential info on the ambassadors whereabouts to the terrorists.

Further, the attacks were preplanned, and organized involving at least 125 men. This means that the terrorists knew well in advance where the ambassador would be.

The attack came as a surprise to many Libyans as ambassador Chris Stevens was popular amongst the Libyan people because many believed he prevented a massacre during the ousting of Gadhafi
 
Facebook is copted by the NSA as part of the engorging National Security State going out of control. :(

I can't stand Facebook:

"If anyone brings a claim against us related to your actions, content or information on Facebook, you will indemnify and hold us harmless from and against all damages, losses, and expenses of any kind (including reasonable legal fees and costs) related to such claim ..."

Let's define "related to your actions" ... basically that means anything you do that can be connected in some way to Facebook. So if you want to instantly become liable for paying Facebook's legal fees, even if you've done nothing wrong, go ahead and sign up. It's not like Facebook or Zuckerberg ( who I don't like either if any of the movie Social Network can be believed ) can afford to cover their legal bills. After that big hit on their shares ( due in part to big shareholders cashing in and in doing so basically screwing new investors ) they only have how many billions of dollars left? I don't use a cell phone either. Sure there is no "scientific evidence" that they cause brain cancer, but to paraphrase a neurosurgeon who I heard on a medical talk show one day, "When you pull tumors out of people's heads on a daily basis you tend to think there's something going on."
 
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