If these "Beings" are so advanced

[Stillborn]

It's "fiction" and it's all right here:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

I'm amazed Spielberg hasn't sued him, it rips off "Taken" on so many levels it's not funny. Otherwise it's just a random hodge-podge of different elements from within UFOlogy. I could've written this story and I can't write for shit.

Ok, well, I recall listening to "The Greys" off youtube. Different pic with that version. It's probably the same thing as I recall with the alien peeing on the floor. If not, instead of listening to it again, I'll wait for Jeremy to correct me.

 

[CapnG]

I'll correct you now; it's not. The alien peeing thing was I believe something Strieber said happened when he (allegedly) asked a grey-like being during an encounter he had if they had read his book. The being responded by throwing the book on the floor and pissing on it.

 

[thefoundryman]

Ha! It totally stands to reason that there are extra-terrestrial 'assholes'. As in aliens that other aliens can't even stand to be around.

....."Yep, there goes Weurfnjenv2keuvbh again, shootin off his second mouth about the galactic blah blah blah"........

 

[Stillborn]

I'll correct you now; it's not. The alien peeing thing was I believe something Strieber said happened when he (allegedly) asked a grey-like being during an encounter he had if they had read his book. The being responded by throwing the book on the floor and pissing on it.

Yes, I recall the details of the claim. So, you know it wasn't in The Greys. Ok, thanks. Thought it was. If anyone can recall where the peepee alien is from (book wise not planet etc.) let me know, I'm curious. Wasn't the Key either..... that was the old man at the hotel.... Peepee alien was the same book with the young/old looking smoking kid. No, seriously, the young/old looking remark might have thrown some. I didn't make a typo there and didn't make this shit up.

 

[Gen]

I'll correct you now; it's not. The alien peeing thing was I believe something Strieber said happened when he (allegedly) asked a grey-like being during an encounter he had if they had read his book. The being responded by throwing the book on the floor and pissing on it.

That sounds like a remarkably human response.

 

[Gen]

Yes, I recall the details of the claim. So, you know it wasn't in The Greys. Ok, thanks. Thought it was. If anyone can recall where the peepee alien is from (book wise not planet etc.) let me know, I'm curious. Wasn't the Key either..... that was the old man at the hotel.... Peepee alien was the same book with the young/old looking smoking kid. No, seriously, the young/old looking remark might have thrown some. I didn't make a typo there and didn't make this shit up.

He's written about the kid in some of his older journal entries.

I don't recall the peeing alien story. Supposedly he knew the visitors have read his books because his publisher ran into some in a bookstore, all bundled up in hats and scarves, talking about everything he'd gotten wrong. I think he mentions this in Communion.

 

[Bixyboo]

I'll correct you now; it's not. The alien peeing thing was I believe something Strieber said happened when he (allegedly) asked a grey-like being during an encounter he had if they had read his book. The being responded by throwing the book on the floor and pissing on it.

Aliens Pee?! WHY does that not seem to fit?

That sounds like a remarkably human response.

I tend to agree at this point.

 

[CapnG]

Aliens Pee?! WHY does that not seem to fit?

According to Strieber, this particular one did. Mind you, in this anecdote if I recall it correctly, he said it wasn't a grey but a grey-like being, possibly a hybrid and specifically a female.

But why wouldn't that fit? If they're humanoids and they eat one presumes they need to pee and poo like me and you. Unless of course you buy that whole "greys crap through their skin like plants" deal. But then again, as noted, this wasn't a grey per se.

 

[Stillborn]

He's written about the kid in some of his older journal entries.

I don't recall the peeing alien story. Supposedly he knew the visitors have read his books because his publisher ran into some in a bookstore, all bundled up in hats and scarves, talking about everything he'd gotten wrong. I think he mentions this in Communion.

Yes, I've heard/read about that too. Publisher past a lie detector reportedly which is a little interesting, if true. Hard for me to swallow still though, but I guess it doesn't hurt to not rule out the possibility. I just wish the evidence was as heavy as the claims more often than not.

 

[Stillborn]

According to Strieber, this particular one did. Mind you, in this anecdote if I recall it correctly, he said it wasn't a grey but a grey-like being, possibly a hybrid and specifically a female.

But why wouldn't that fit? If they're humanoids and they eat one presumes they need to pee and poo like me and you. Unless of course you buy that whole "greys crap through their skin like plants" deal. But then again, as noted, this wasn't a grey per se.

I think there's a possibility that a lot of events that people report might be actual thought projection. These beings may communicate in visuals that the human mind might think is actually physical events. It may have been a metaphor the so called visitor projected instead of using verbal communication. Maybe a hologram of some kind. Could be BS. Or actual. Hard for me to know.

Hybrids aside a moment. I'm often troubled by the seeming contradiction of greys only sometimes having sexual organs. Guess it's possible some are androids and some aren't. Still just bothers me. Some reports they have sex organs, other times they are as endowed as Ken or Barbie, minus the nippleless breast.

 

[CapnG]

Hybrids aside a moment. I'm often troubled by the seeming contradiction of greys only sometimes having sexual organs. Guess it's possible some are androids and some aren't. Still just bothers me. Some reports they have sex organs, other times they are as endowed as Ken or Barbie, minus the nippleless breast.

It's not contradictory if different types of greys are encountered by different people.

 

[Stillborn]

It's not contradictory if different types of greys are encountered by different people.

I threw in the word seemingly, because I know there are variables the mind can come up with to make it work. But there's some decent reasons to question it and/or consider it possibly contradictory too. I'm not 100 percent convinced greys are real in a physical sense. So when issues like the sex organs only being reported sometimes comes up, makes me wonder if that is because it isn't real in an objective sense. Or I wonder if one category of greys being reported is due to cultural contamination, or plain BS while the other category is legit/real.

Reminds me of the finger count on greys. Usually it's 3 or 4 it seems. There's different ways of looking at it that can make it seem like a contradiction or ways to look at it and make it work. A goofy example of making it work, and not be contradictory is; People that say three mean 3 fingers and 1 thumb which would be 4. A way of making it seem like a contradiction would be to assume there aren't different versions of greys, and/or forget the difference could be due to faulty recollection.

 

[CapnG]

I'm not disagreeing with you but I think there's room for other, more prosaic explanations in terms of the greys being seemingly "real" and yet highly variable, namely pure ignorance.

And what I mean by that is this: say you were an alien visiting earth with next-to-no knowledge of humans and you landed in China and were dealing with stereotypically short asians for the most part and then encountered a very tall black man (an NBA player perhaps doing an endorsement deal with a chinese company). Would you recognize the tall, dark guy was still a human or might you think he was a different species?

I guess what I'm saying is we don't know enough about these aliens to even begin to understand the implications of variance in their physiology, let alone make distinctions between real/physical and projected/illusionary beings. We're ignorant beyond ignorance.

 

[Stillborn]

I'm not disagreeing with you but I think there's room for other, more prosaic explanations in terms of the greys being seemingly "real" and yet highly variable, namely pure ignorance.

And what I mean by that is this: say you were an alien visiting earth with next-to-no knowledge of humans and you landed in China and were dealing with stereotypically short asians for the most part and then encountered a very tall black man (an NBA player perhaps doing an endorsement deal with a chinese company). Would you recognize the tall, dark guy was still a human or might you think he was a different species?

I guess what I'm saying is we don't know enough about these aliens to even begin to understand the implications of variance in their physiology, let alone make distinctions between real/physical and projected/illusionary beings. We're ignorant beyond ignorance.

Yeh, I can't type all scenarios up. There's more to it than what I touched on I'm aware. The race example came to mind. When I hear of tan greys over grey greys I don't think of different species over different race, or different lighting (I have a grey guitar that looks brown in certain rooms). Could be a different species I guess. I wouldn't favor that over race, so long as body parts are generally the same. I'm aware this assumes an organic nature and I'm not ruling out other options. I'm merely speaking within one context atm.

We may know, we just don't know that we know. Some of our guesses may turn out to be right. I don't pretend the scenarios discussed are conclusive. I'm not even sure if Greys exist, and if they do, don't know how physical they are as I mentioned. I think we know enough about them to begin though. I think I could be at the very first step. But really, I can't know until I have rock solid data to contrast my knowledge or lack there of by. So it's kinda moot. I do recall Friedman saying abductions are sometimes contradictory on a Canadian show called UFO Controversy. I don't think he's being foolish for that remark. Could be. He also went on to discuss how much we're in the dark about what's going on too. The way to turn on the lights is questioning, thinking, and discussing the issue I recon. Better evidence would be nice too.

 

[Gen]

Yes, I've heard/read about that too. Publisher past a lie detector reportedly which is a little interesting, if true. Hard for me to swallow still though, but I guess it doesn't hurt to not rule out the possibility. I just wish the evidence was as heavy as the claims more often than not.

Yes, when it comes to this story I intuitively can't decide whether it's "too weird to be true" or "so weird it must be true"! It's just so outlandish.

 

[Gen]

Ha! It totally stands to reason that there are extra-terrestrial 'assholes'. As in aliens that other aliens can't even stand to be around.

....."Yep, there goes Weurfnjenv2keuvbh again, shootin off his second mouth about the galactic blah blah blah"........

Yanno, it's exactly types like these -- the kind that can't get along at home -- that so often go out colonizing "new worlds." Few in Holland were sorry to see the Pilgrims go, after all.

So maybe we're getting the galaxy's jerkiest aliens. Wouldn't it explain a few things?

 

[Gen]

I think there's a possibility that a lot of events that people report might be actual thought projection. These beings may communicate in visuals that the human mind might think is actually physical events. It may have been a metaphor the so called visitor projected instead of using verbal communication.

This is an explanation I haven't heard put into words before, and it's brilliant.

It would explain why many people report that their extremely close encounters are not exactly "real," yet definitely not a dream.

 

[Bixyboo]

According to Strieber, this particular one did. Mind you, in this anecdote if I recall it correctly, he said it wasn't a grey but a grey-like being, possibly a hybrid and specifically a female.

But why wouldn't that fit? If they're humanoids and they eat one presumes they need to pee and poo like me and you. Unless of course you buy that whole "greys crap through their skin like plants" deal. But then again, as noted, this wasn't a grey per se.

Nonetheless tho: Ever heard of a ufo having a bathroom within it? It's never mentioned in any stories of supposed recovered craft.....

 

[CapnG]

Nonetheless tho: Ever heard of a ufo having a bathroom within it? It's never mentioned in any stories of supposed recovered craft.....

Does your car have a bathroom in it? Does an F-16? Does an ambulance? It's oft stated in the UFO lore that these craft are "short range" vehicles but if you can traverse time/space in the blink of an eye, then EVERYWHERE is "short range".

 

[AnnetteMarie]

what about facilities built-in to the wall? hidden behind panels or within cupboards.

if the greys "sweat" out their body waste, that would account for some of the weird smells people have reported, I suppose.